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IRON LIVER JASEN / NO BS BRUTAL HONESTY TRAIZOLE-ACTIVATE (NEW) LOG

------------------------- Day 8+9

Noticing nothing too diff then my previous update. Pumps and recovery are good libido still same.
 
Sooooooooo many ppl talk about them I keeo telling then hcg drop is a scam, u can only inject it
 
++++++ WEEK I REVIEW ++++++

Libido - 4
Strenght - 8
pumps - 7
Mood - 7
Vascularity - 7
Hunger - 8
Fat gain - 2 (very good)
 
One thing I do have a question about is, ppl report massive libido this I have yet to see, I do have a slight increase compared to before but I know my test is raised, I thought it could be a prolactin problem since prami helped but isn't there good dopa in new activate?
 
Our child it be that triazole lowered my estrogen to far
 
Could it"
 
No over has any input?
 
Well I haven't followed the logs close enough or done enough research into the ingredients to give good input on that, but I can say I always find libido to be dependent on the user. As we know, both of us don't get crazy libido from Clomid (in fact mine might have dipped a bit, I can only wonder how bad it would be if I wasn't on the Sustain), while others praise it as the all mighty libido champ. Just depends on the user.
 
Jasen said:
One thing I do have a question about is, ppl report massive libido this I have yet to see, I do have a slight increase compared to before but I know my test is raised, I thought it could be a prolactin problem since prami helped but isn't there good dopa in new activate?
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Jasen said:
Our child it be that triazole lowered my estrogen to far
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Yes, there is dopa/mucuna in Activate Xtreme which should help lower prolactin.

Is your libido actually down or are you just hoping for the radical increases experienced by some other users?
 
it is slighty higher than on pct but not compareable to what other ppl claimed from their libido increase, everything else has been great! Just libido is getting a slight increase, I know my test is up I can see acne oil skin etc etc which only leaves estrogen our prolactin
 
Jasen said:
it is slighty higher than on pct but not compareable to what other ppl claimed from their libido increase, everything else has been great! Just libido is getting a slight increase, I know my test is up I can see acne oil skin etc etc which only leaves estrogen our prolactin
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There are a few other things that contribute towards libido, including acetylcholine, dopamine and serotonin, so i wouldn't lay the blame firmly on estrogen.
 
Hmmm interesting, how strong is dopa against prola
Ctin
 
-------------------------------- Day 10+11

Pumps very extremely hard i also added l carnitine for preworkout 15min, Today. not sure wether it was the carnitie or it all REALLY kicked it but today my forarms had a massive pump during w.o. yesterday was my off day. hmm nothing else to add. everything else is pretty much same, sleep recovery and pumps are probably the most noticable so far
 
I won't quote edwitt again but thats puttin in work fo real nice work edwitt.Jasen looks like Tria is slowly taking effect.I'm interested in how the libido thing turns out for you
 
Its still on pretty much same level 4/10 but yah ill update on that one when I notice a jump.
 
---------------------- Day 12

everything is still the same no new changes.
 
Jasen said:
-------------------------------- Day 10+11

Pumps very extremely hard i also added l carnitine for preworkout 15min, Today. not sure wether it was the carnitie or it all REALLY kicked it but today my forarms had a massive pump during w.o. yesterday was my off day. hmm nothing else to add. everything else is pretty much same, sleep recovery and pumps are probably the most noticable so far
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Pretty much the same I am experiencing :thumbsup:

//CC
 
-------------------- Day 13

everything is still going great everything is up besides libido I wood say it is still about a 4/10 so I decided after this stack to run a "reset" by going back on a test only cycle hoping that second time around I might be able to fix what went wrong first time. Or maybe ill just run dbol since I got the biggest libido boost from dbol than any other aas even on only 10mg (which dose not cause shut down first thing in morning ) .
 
Naw not yet, my testicles are hanging low and I'm gettin good on ds stack only thing worryin me is libido is still shot, so I'm think of running a reset to help fix that problem, this is one of the biggest reasons I jumped on ds stack ppl reported very high libido, yet I am not seeing it. I know dbol gave me crazy libidio at 10mg first thing in morning so I might try that again, or just go back on test/hcg.
 
test made me also horny as ****
 
Honestly I just want to libido back to normal its been 6wks since I ended cycle, and still low libido
 
I wouldn't hop on test bro.. not yet. I just started HCGenerate myself and people are reporting it's fire to your libido. I have a mediocre libido from last cycle.

Give what your using some more time. 6 weeks is still pretty fresh off the cycle you ran. It's been 6 weeks for me and libido is mediocre but I'm not worried. It will pick up bro. 6 weeks is still pretty fresh.
 
Its annoyin, my sex drive is very low, its very annoyin
 
Havent gone through the whole thread, but seen you are having libido issues.

What was your PCT.. and what are you running now?

If your PCT was solid and you trust your SERMS you bought. Consider coming off anything that plays with your hormones, keep ****ing with em, and your libido will just never be right.

Pickup some Toco-8, EndoAmp, MST MVP-365, and some ZMA. Also dose two TBLSPNS Virgin coconut oil prior to bed.

Give your body some time normalize and bring all the libido factors back up.
 
It was nolva and clomid, id figure the ds stack wood help normalize stuff since both work as test booster
 
I kind regret not using hcg
 
Well your cycle was pretty hefty LOL so hCG would have probably helped. You were on cycle for what? 12 weeks or more? And you've been off only 6 weeks... that's nothing.

Just get some bloods in a couple weeks or so to know where you stand.
 
Well here is the interesting thing, today morning I had crazy sex on my mind first time on a while..... I hope **** is going to get better
 
chocolatemilk said:
Well your cycle was pretty hefty LOL so hCG would have probably helped. You were on cycle for what? 12 weeks or more? And you've been off only 6 weeks... that's nothing.

Just get some bloods in a couple weeks or so to know where you stand.
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Agreed man. 12 weeks on and 6 weeks off. Might be asking a little much of your body to bounce back so quick. Give it time man. I know for me, it took about 2-3 months to feel totally recovered after my cycle.

Jumping on another cycle seems tempting I know but it isn't the answer, it's a band-aid to the problem.
 
Hmmmmm ok if evey one had this problem, ill wait thanks bros
 
----------------------- Day 14 + 15

Sorry for late post I have been out of town lately and will be cuz of work for a bit outof town but I will still post every chance I get.

So far so good it seems I have reached the peak, its effects r still the same they wete few days ago and I can def see a diff in strenght
 
--------------------- Day 16 + 17

Both days were my off days I noticed I slight increase in libido today but that's all for anything new. Also it appears my activate is empty tomorrow at day 18 hmmm I thought it was suppose to last till day 22ish at max dose of 6 a day
 
I had some very frustrating libido issues :(

Hang in there bro it bounces back :)
 
Jasen said:
--------------------- Day 16 + 17

Both days were my off days I noticed I slight increase in libido today but that's all for anything new. Also it appears my activate is empty tomorrow at day 18 hmmm I thought it was suppose to last till day 22ish at max dose of 6 a day
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That is strange. Check your PMs.
 
Yah man after this libido problem I'm never going to run anything harsh again. Maybe some test and dbol but that's all def no no deca or tren. And def hcg. Lesson learned. On side note thanks robb for your offer it was cool and professional of you.
 
But its kinda coming, I see it every now and then
 
Jasen said:
Yah man after this libido problem I'm never going to run anything harsh again. Maybe some test and dbol but that's all def no no deca or tren. And def hcg. Lesson learned. On side note thanks robb for your offer it was cool and professional of you.
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I had major issues on epi/tren cycle only

Added test proviron and HCG libido is raging ran epi/tren as kick starter ran tren e for 10 weeks @ 400mg EW libido rages on :)

I didn't need but throw some prami on there and you will be G2G
 
yah i used prami, but after reading up on it i doubt i will to use it unless i am on tren.

yah im thinkin of a re-set, test/hcg both low dose. i never bother with a estro blocker since i did get any gyno on T even at 1000.

here is something odd i noticed so my activate ran out and i am waiting for new bottle to arrive BUT here is the interesting part.... so i have been on triazole today and yesterday only and 2 days ago i was only on 4pills of activate instead of six... and the past 3 days my libido has been UP. especially yesterday and today since there was practially no activate only triazole..... thats kinda odd? maybe im gettin to much pzole? or something within activate (NEW) is causing me to have lil libido while on high dose???
 
------------------------------- Day 18+19

Everything has pretty much reached its peak imo, and everything is doing good plus my lil post ^above is the rest review of past few days
 
Jasen said:
yah i used prami, but after reading up on it i doubt i will to use it unless i am on tren.

yah im thinkin of a re-set, test/hcg both low dose. i never bother with a estro blocker since i did get any gyno on T even at 1000.

here is something odd i noticed so my activate ran out and i am waiting for new bottle to arrive BUT here is the interesting part.... so i have been on triazole today and yesterday only and 2 days ago i was only on 4pills of activate instead of six... and the past 3 days my libido has been UP. especially yesterday and today since there was practially no activate only triazole..... thats kinda odd? maybe im gettin to much pzole? or something within activate (NEW) is causing me to have lil libido while on high dose???
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I wondered about the pzole I believe its in both products correct?
 
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