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What results did you see from the YK sir, I read some of the log but not all of it.

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I ran it 4 weeks at 30mg per day. I ate around maintenance. I swear I immediately felt bigger, strength shot way up, but focused more on higher rep range. I heard stories about tendon issues, so I wanted to avoid injury.

I had zero side effects. I monitored BP consistently and it stayed around 120/80.

I'm around 6'00 200lb. I didn't check my weight during the cycle, but waistline got smaller and shirts tighter around the shoulders
 
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Took 20mg SD pre workout

BP a couple hours later 120/68

Carditone is excellent. Thanks again @Hyde for the recommendation
 
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I am pretty lethargic today. I'm not ready to blame SD yet...but I'll keep an eye on it
 
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Added black seed oil yesterday, 3 grams of vitamin C, and nightly Carditone.

I'm going to start monitoring BP very consistently since I'm starting second week of SD.
I would definitely be taking something for BP. I usually throw 5 mg Cialis in the mix towards the end of a cycle and well into PCT. Your probably staying on TRT though if I'm not mistaken?
 
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I would definitely be taking something for BP. I usually throw 5 mg Cialis in the mix towards the end of a cycle and well into PCT. Your probably staying on TRT though if I'm not mistaken?
Yeah, I've been taking 5 cialis for a long time how. And I recently added Carditone.
 
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And yeah, I'm on TRT
 
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Alright everyone. I'm going to go ahead and end this bad boy, and start back on TRT. I'm not feeling bad or anything, but im looking back at my calendar, and realized I'm getting a little greedy here haha.

i'm in this for the long haul, and dont need to be in a rush here.

Thanks for following along, and I'll probably set up another blast in the beginning of 2023.
 
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I'll probably throw in SD pre-wo every once in a while for a lagging body, but not too often
 
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I've been on TRT for about 3 years now. I havent taken any DHEA or pregnenalone this entire time. I've been having really low energy and trouble sleeping.

I decided to check my Pregnenalone and it was 11 ng/dl.... the range is 22-200ish.

I took 20mg Pregnenalone this morning. Is this a good dose to start at, and what it the best time of day to take it?

I'm going to check my DHEA sulfate levels next

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I was gonna start a new thread, but I figured some smart dudes are already following along here. Thanks for the help
 
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Just from taking it once in a blue moon, I would say 20mg is too much at once for me personally. I like doses of 10mg.

It sort of builds up a little, so if you keep taking it daily I will start getting anxious/overstimulated after a few days. So my point is even if 20 is fine today, continue to monitor how you feel each day.

It also can activate the progesterone receptor, and obviously convert to estrogen downstream, so it usually begins to bug my gyno pretty quickly, similar to my sensitivity to 19-nors. Something like Ralox, if you are still on that, definitely fixes this overall.

Goal would be to find the lowest effective dose to get improved mood/energy/mental clarity without needing an AI or such, or becoming manic/anxious. You may not even want or be able to handle it every day.
 
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Just from taking it once in a blue moon, I would say 20mg is too much at once for me personally. I like doses of 10mg.

It sort of builds up a little, so if you keep taking it daily I will start getting anxious/overstimulated after a few days. So my point is even if 20 is fine today, continue to monitor how you feel each day.

It also can activate the progesterone receptor, and obviously convert to estrogen downstream, so it usually begins to bug my gyno pretty quickly, similar to my sensitivity to 19-nors. Something like Ralox, if you are still on that, definitely fixes this overall.

Goal would be to find the lowest effective dose to get improved mood/energy/mental clarity without needing an AI or such, or becoming manic/anxious. You may not even want or be able to handle it every day.
Ok, I saw some reports or people starting at 100 mg with no bloodwork showing a difficiency at some clinics.

Vigorous Steve said he was deficient, and only takes 10mg Preg with 25 mg DHEA

I'm just a little confused at the huge difference in dosing
 
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I just want to optimize these nerosteroids...so I'll be doing bloodwork frequently
 
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Talk to your TRT doctor about it.

10-25mg daily or eod are numbers I have seen more frequently.

A transdermal preparation like Iconic’s Dermacrine is going to convert differently, be drier, so you may need less or be able to handle more using a transdermal.
 
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Talk to your TRT doctor about it.

10-25mg daily or eod are numbers I have seen more frequently.

A transdermal preparation like Iconic’s Dermacrine is going to convert differently, be drier, so you may need less or be able to handle more using a transdermal.
I go through general health care doc...so he ain't well versed
 
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Talk to your TRT doctor about it.

10-25mg daily or eod are numbers I have seen more frequently.

A transdermal preparation like Iconic’s Dermacrine is going to convert differently, be drier, so you may need less or be able to handle more using a transdermal.
Ordered some Iconic Dermacrine to try
 
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Decided to throw this in here as a note for myself, and just some info for you guys

I tested ultra sensitive E2 (in the trough) while on 600 test and 400 primo. My E2 was 19. I was not on an AI.

So this is obviously pretty low. Just shows you how much primo can help control aromatization. Just be careful.

I'm back on TRT now. Just thought I would share.
 
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So next time I'll probably back the primo down to half my test dose
 
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I felt pretty dry cruising 180 test and 120 primo. I tried 120/120, but that quickly became obvious it was too dry, so bumped to 150, still kind of dry, finally 180/120 I felt balanced, no AI.

I think I’m going to start off next cruise at 150 test e, 80-100 mast e.
 
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I'm on "Super TRT" right now

200 test/ 200 primo

I dont feel like my E2 is too low, but seeing this bloodwork from my blast makes me want to lower the primo..

Maybe, 200 test/100 primo per week
 
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I'm on "Super TRT" right now

200 test/ 200 primo

I dont feel like my E2 is too low, but seeing this bloodwork from my blast makes me want to lower the primo..

Maybe, 200 test/100 primo per week
Yeah 300mg is still a plenty hefty cruise. If you can’t maintain your physique on that, you have bigger holes in the picture. I was actually getting stronger still on some things while cruising on the 180 test / 120 primo.
 
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Decided to throw this in here as a note for myself, and just some info for you guys

I tested ultra sensitive E2 (in the trough) while on 600 test and 400 primo. My E2 was 19. I was not on an AI.

So this is obviously pretty low. Just shows you how much primo can help control aromatization. Just be careful.

I'm back on TRT now. Just thought I would share.
Was this the primo from where I'm thinking of?
 
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This makes me wonder how people run like a gram of primo...? There E2 must be zero...
 
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I felt pretty dry cruising 180 test and 120 primo. I tried 120/120, but that quickly became obvious it was too dry, so bumped to 150, still kind of dry, finally 180/120 I felt balanced, no AI.

I think I’m going to start off next cruise at 150 test e, 80-100 mast e.
Never heard of cruising on test/ mast. I have heard of guys taking low doses tren/ primo with their TRT. I would be interested if the mast actually controls estrogen
 
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Never heard of cruising on test/ mast. I have heard of guys taking low doses tren/ primo with their TRT. I would be interested if the mast actually controls estrogen
It’s a pretty big thing in the sports TRT world.

Masteron absolutely offsets estrogen, more so than primo, mg per mg. If I run even 150mg testosterone solo, I need a bit of Exemestane. If I take 300 test & 200 mast, with no AI, I feel almost dry, by comparison.
 
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It’s a pretty big thing in the sports TRT world.

Masteron absolutely offsets estrogen, more so than primo, mg per mg. If I run even 150mg testosterone solo, I need a bit of Exemestane. If I take 300 test & 200 mast, with no AI, I feel almost dry, by comparison.
That's what I was thinking. Back in the day those guys had to rely on mast/ proviron/ winny to control estrogen and they were running hella deca too. I still like to keep a low dose AI in the mix even when I'm off cycle. But then again low dose nolvadex works just as well to keep estrogen from getting out of hand
 
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On a side note....i reallllly want to run YK 11 injectable again. Like soon
 
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That sh1t felt like no other to me. But, i just started Accutane, so.im not sure it's a good idea
 
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That sh1t felt like no other to me. But, i just started Accutane, so.im not sure it's a good idea
Should be no problem since the YK is injectable. I have never tried accutane myself though. The one side effect I would take note is joint pain. I think accutane has the potential to cause this and YK definitely has been known for this. I think as long your not maxing out on your lifts it should be fine just something I would keep in mind
 
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That sh1t felt like no other to me. But, i just started Accutane, so.im not sure it's a good idea
Accutane is extremely harsh; thing about it like a course of very strong orals at least. Idk how the Yk11 affected your bloodwork, but in general it’s important to take breaks from things so they work optimally. There’s a reason we cruise: to clean up bloodwork and restore sensitivity so we can then chase new progress.

Just staying on the same dose of X indefinitely will not keep yielding any improvement, only maintain it, meanwhile health will continue to deteriorate in an unsustainable fashion. That’s why dosages climb over a blast and the course must come to an end and a maintenance/cleanup phase begun periodically. Less aggressive the blast the longer it can be sustained obviously, but once you are cruising at least put 8 weeks in before another push.
 
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@Hyde I'm about 6 weeks removed from my actual blast. The YK 11 barely touched my liver values last time, and I kept the run short to 4 weeks.

My plan this time is to just add it to my TRT cruise for another 4 weeks. Then, not Blast again until the beginning of the year.

I will be taking Liv52 and glutathione injections along the way to protect my organs from. The Accutane since I'm not sure how it will effect me.
 
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@Hyde I'm about 6 weeks removed from my actual blast. The YK 11 barely touched my liver values last time, and I kept the run short to 4 weeks.

My plan this time is to just add it to my TRT cruise for another 4 weeks. Then, not Blast again until the beginning of the year.

I will be taking Liv52 and glutathione injections along the way to protect my organs from. The Accutane since I'm not sure how it will effect me.
How long are you going to be running Accutane? Is it feasible to wait until you stop that and pull a CMP (this can be like $40 if you know where to look) before you re-add the Yk?

What do you hope to get out of adding Yk11 now with an otherwise TRT dose? It isn’t going to be like when you were on blast with it.

You can do anything you want; I just want you to make your decisions with everything weighed honestly. What I would be asking myself is, how long will I be on Accutane? Am I confident my body can handle the two together if it will be a while & I want to start YK now, especially without looking at bloodwork on Accutane? Is this just for a cosmetic enhancement, or am I unrealistically hoping for more growth that probably isn’t coming? Do I feel this is all safe enough for my joints?
 
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How long are you going to be running Accutane? Is it feasible to wait until you stop that and pull a CMP (this can be like $40 if you know where to look) before you re-add the Yk?

What do you hope to get out of adding Yk11 now with an otherwise TRT dose? It isn’t going to be like when you were on blast with it.

You can do anything you want; I just want you to make your decisions with everything weighed honestly. What I would be asking myself is, how long will I be on Accutane? Am I confident my body can handle the two together if it will be a while & I want to start YK now, especially without looking at bloodwork on Accutane? Is this just for a cosmetic enhancement, or am I unrealistically hoping for more growth that probably isn’t coming? Do I feel this is all safe enough for my joints?
I plan on running the Accutane until my skin clears completely, and hopefully experience some permanent changes on acne.

I've heard this can take a few months...so I was going to play it by ear.

You arw right I think im just looking for the cosmetic quick look. I have a photoshoot coming up in towards the end of September. This is for my online coaching stuff I've been doing.
 
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The smart decision is probably to just kill the diet and maintain TRT for now
 
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@Hyde Yeah I'm just going to stick to the TRT for a bit. Thanks for speaking some since into me. I was dealing with some family stuff and had an "F it" moment.

And since i quit drinking, I need to be careful not to apply an addictive personality yo this stuff
 
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@Hyde Yeah I'm just going to stick to the TRT for a bit. Thanks for speaking some since into me. I was dealing with some family stuff and had an "F it" moment.

And since i quit drinking, I need to be careful not to apply an addictive personality yo this stuff
Glad it helped. If you are getting ready for a photo shoot, you will be way better off with a strict diet & then last minute water/carb manipulations. Like a watercut & some sauna last minute & taking Anadrol or Superdrol for 2-3 days prior to fill up the muscles still for a little pop.
 
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Just of note adding in something like peptides/ Mk 677 or anything that boosts GH would help clear up skin conditions.

Also worth noting at a certain dosage of TRT let's say 200 mg and up collagen synthesis actually starts to decline. But anything 200 mg and under then collagen synthesis is increased
 
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Just of note adding in something like peptides/ Mk 677 or anything that boosts GH would help clear up skin conditions.

Also worth noting at a certain dosage of let's say 200 mg and up collagen synthesis actually starts to decline. But anything 200 mg and under then collagen synthesis is increased
Cool thanks for that info. I'm on my second week of Accutane at 20mg. I'm already starting to see a difference.

It's cleaning up some bacne and cystic acne I've had for a long time. I'll do bloodwork in a month to see how it's doing with my liver and stuff.
 
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@Hyde i like the idea of using Anadrol to feel up before the photo shoot.

What's the best way to avoid the bloat I've heard about? SeRm? Ai?
 
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@Hyde i like the idea of using Anadrol to feel up before the photo shoot.

What's the best way to avoid the bloat I've heard about? SeRm? Ai?
I would still run something mild if you have a photo shoot coming up, but that's just me. SD always take about a week to see noticable cosmetic effects.

Anadrol idk never tried it! I would run something like 11 oxo/ 11 keto a few weeks before. The main side effect from accutane is liver toxicity and it's dose dependant. Most studies were saying .5 - 1 mg/ kg/ day is a good dosing range with minimal side effects
 
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This Accutane really seems to be working...chest and back acne.

Only side I've had so far is dry lips
 
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@Hyde i like the idea of using Anadrol to feel up before the photo shoot.

What's the best way to avoid the bloat I've heard about? SeRm? Ai?
Probably a little more AI. SERM would only be added if you have some gyno you’d like to minimize. Too much AI for too long can flatten you out if estrogen gets too low.

A low fluid intake the final days is probably necessary, and minimal salt in the days before that. Salt within 24 hours when fluid is very low may be a good thing. There usually is a depletion of carbs and electrolytes in days leading up to the shoot, then water is pulled down hard at the end and very close to the end carbs and salt are added back in with the Anadrol to help fill out your now dried-out frame.

You should probably read up on this stuff and don’t take my word on it, because that’s not my wheelhouse.

I would still run something mild if you have a photo shoot coming up, but that's just me. SD always take about a week to see noticable cosmetic effects.

Anadrol idk never tried it! I would run something like 11 oxo/ 11 keto a few weeks before. The main side effect from accutane is liver toxicity and it's dose dependant. Most studies were saying .5 - 1 mg/ kg/ day is a good dosing range with minimal side effects
You’re thinking about basal use. That is not what I am discussing. I mean acute use for a couple days. Like when I take 20mg of Dbol before a single training session and I get such skin-splitting pumps suddenly that I have to use less weight and reps and take more rest; these drugs can do things acutely and immediately too.

Anadrol is sometimes used in the final days during carb up protocols before a bodybuilding show, along with insulin, diuretics, dietary and water intake manipulations, etc. They can get really tedious, and it will be very different for every athlete and coach & scenario, as well as how the athlete is actually responding in real time. I don’t have that experience and plenty of guys that do still suck at it, or don’t and still get it wrong, because there’s so many variables that effect moment to moment conditioning.

We are not trying to put on actual size; I am talking about driving an acute increase in intramuscular fluid retention while in a short and controlled enough window that he won’t risk a bunch of extra cellular water retention. Like, he should take a pill the day before with a very regulated diet & low fluid intake, and if he still looks dry in the morning of the shoot, assuming he is drinking next to no water, he would take another. Superdrol could be used here as well.

If he wants to do something to really change his actual physique, yeah 20 days of Superdrol would be ideal, but now he’s going on blast and taking that health impact, which he may not want to do.
 
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That YK 11 make you immediately look bigger...even at just TRT dose of test
 
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Probably a little more AI. SERM would only be added if you have some gyno you’d like to minimize. Too much AI for too long can flatten you out if estrogen gets too low.

A low fluid intake the final days is probably necessary, and minimal salt in the days before that. Salt within 24 hours when fluid is very low may be a good thing. There usually is a depletion of carbs and electrolytes in days leading up to the shoot, then water is pulled down hard at the end and very close to the end carbs and salt are added back in with the Anadrol to help fill out your now dried-out frame.

You should probably read up on this stuff and don’t take my word on it, because that’s not my wheelhouse.



You’re thinking about basal use. That is not what I am discussing. I mean acute use for a couple days. Like when I take 20mg of Dbol before a single training session and I get such skin-splitting pumps suddenly that I have to use less weight and reps and take more rest; these drugs can do things acutely and immediately too.

Anadrol is sometimes used in the final days during carb up protocols before a bodybuilding show, along with insulin, diuretics, dietary and water intake manipulations, etc. They can get really tedious, and it will be very different for every athlete and coach & scenario, as well as how the athlete is actually responding in real time. I don’t have that experience and plenty of guys that do still suck at it, or don’t and still get it wrong, because there’s so many variables that effect moment to moment conditioning.

We are not trying to put on actual size; I am talking about driving an acute increase in intramuscular fluid retention while in a short and controlled enough window that he won’t risk a bunch of extra cellular water retention. Like, he should take a pill the day before with a very regulated diet & low fluid intake, and if he still looks dry in the morning of the shoot, assuming he is drinking next to no water, he would take another. Superdrol could be used here as well.

If he wants to do something to really change his actual physique, yeah 20 days of Superdrol would be ideal, but now he’s going on blast and taking that health impact, which he may not want to do.
Ahh yes the 20 days of Superdrol will can change a physique fast. But most of that is like you said intracellular water retention and you lose most of that after cessation. You know I'm a bigger fan of injectable SD. Gains are more slow and steady and the stuff was very dry even on high doses of test.

But your right. Just taking 20 mg of something like anadrol/ SD for acute benefits would be the more health conscious approach
 
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Screw it...going 750 test, 400 primo, and 50 anadrol

Lol jk

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Screw it...going 750 test, 400 primo, and 50 anadrol

Lol jk

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Yes sir! You would be stage ready in no time!

I was actually talking with this kid about his last contest prep and he told me test/ tren/ mast/ winny for 12 weeks and he looked insane right before his show
 

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