Inj YK 11 log/ Ralox Protocol

[manifesto]

Theoretically you should be able combine any oil based injectable in the same bottle or the same syringe.

When I run a cycle, most of the time il take a empty sterile vial and combine the gear I want in the amounts I want and inject them all into 1 bottle so I don't have to draw out of 2-3 bottles every day or however often in pinning

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Theoretically you should be able combine any oil based injectable in the same bottle or the same syringe.

When I run a cycle, most of the time il take a empty sterile vial and combine the gear I want in the amounts I want and inject them all into 1 bottle so I don't have to draw out of 2-3 bottles every day or however often in pinning

How would u know if the oils get evenly dispersed iwhen you combine them

 

[manifesto]

I mix my test and lgd in the same bottle in the desired amount and then draw and pin from that bottle. Never had a issue, there both in MCT oil, you may have something happen if it's two different kinds of oils but I don't think that even matters. I've actually drawn a oil base from one bottle and a water base from another bottle into one syringe and done it before nothing bad happened lol.

You just reminded me that my cousin has 2 bottles of AA rad 140 in oil

Would there be any concern the oils will segregate in the bottle, and you won't draw put any even amount of each?

 

[manifesto]

Just realized I already asks this...my bad

 

[Smont]

Would there be any concern the oils will segregate in the bottle, and you won't draw put any even amount of each?

Very doubtful, I actually just tried something as a experiment to find out. I just put great seed oil, olive oil, vegetable oil and MCT oil all in a glass, 1tbsp each and stired it up. They all combined into one oil and it's been sitting for about 15 minutes and hasn't separated lol

 

[manifesto]

Just started week 2 of injectable YK (30mg). This stuff is definitely legit...strength is up, losing bf, carbs shuttled right into glycogen, sense of well being.

No negative side effects so far

 

[Smont]

Just started week 2 of injectable YK (30mg). This stuff is definitely legit...strength is up, losing bf, carbs shuttled right into glycogen, sense of well being.

No negative side effects so far

Just a fyi, I e always notice I get leaner on raloxefine too. And I've been meaning to tell you. Been on 100mg per day raloxefine and only 75mg testosterone per week. Lumps no longer feel semi solid, there completely fatty feeling again. I'm going to drop to 50mg before bed till the fatty stuff starts to dissapear and then maybe drop to 25-30mg

 

[manifesto]

Sounds good. I'm still at 90mg, and I do believe the lumps are starting to break up some...they don't feel as solid

 

[Smont]

Sounds good. I'm still at 90mg, and I do believe the lumps are starting to break up some...they don't feel as solid

Just try not to touch them too often, you don't want to stimulate then lol

 

[manifesto]

Just try not to touch them too often, you don't want to stimulate then lol

Yeah, I think that's why they were so sore at first...I kept feeling around for the lumps too much

 

[manifesto]

Just started week 3 of the YK-11 (30 mg).

Been great so far. No side effects to speak of. No pip since taking care of the crystallized oil. BP is perfect.

Waist is getting thinner, shoulders are getting wider. Shirts getting tighter, and non- stop comments from people.

I have been eating right around maintenance (2,800 to 3,000). Macro breakdown is 200P, 350C, and 70F.

Staple Supplements/Ancillary
Cardarine (10mg, lipid support)
5mg cialis
L- Carnitine (400mg inj)
Carnitine Tartrate tabs (if skip inj)
Ubiquinol (400 mg)
Vitamin D3 (10,000 iu)
Vitamin K2 (200 mcg)
Vitamin E (800 iu)
Astragalus (4,000 mg)
Zinc (50mg)
Krill Oil (Omega Sport)
Liver Care (Liv 52)
Magnesium (240 mg)
Vitamin C (2,000mg)
Taurine (1,000 mg)
Green Powder
CBD occasionally

 

[manifesto]

Ralox Update

The lumps appear about the same. Im going to lower my TRT dose way down, and bump Ralox back to 120 mg. I am also going to take Exemestane a couple times per week.

I'm also due for TRT bloodwork for the doc. So, this lower T dose will help me out there as well.


PICs coming soon.

 

[manifesto]

 

[manifesto]

Pic of me in the wild....fasted and no pump...just a light swim prior to the pic

 

[manifesto]

On a side note, do any of you guys know if L-Carnitine needs to be cycled off? Been using that stuff for a hot minute it feels like.

 

[Hyde]

Pic of me in the wild....fasted and no pump...just a light swim prior to the pic

Man, that’s a great looking boat! You can tell a lot of work went into getting it ready.





I mean, physique

On a side note, do any of you guys know if L-Carnitine needs to be cycled off? Been using that stuff for a hot minute it feels like.

No sir; you can run it indefinitely. But realize if you aren’t pushing an acute fat loss phase the dosage needed to maintain all the other benefits is very low, like 50-75mg a day once loaded up. Someone using HGH or peptides could reconstitute them with a 4-600mg/ml concentration carnitine and get by on whatever they get from those administrations.

 

[manifesto]

Ralox doesn't appear to be touching my gyno much at all. Been up to 120 for a while...

I'm just going to taper off, and proceed with getting sh1t cut out. Once and for all.

 

[manifesto]

@Smont @Hyde

I've been on the Ralox for about 3 weeks now. Do I need to taper off this? And how would I properly do that?

 

[Smont]

@Smont @Hyde

I've been on the Ralox for about 3 weeks now. Do I need to taper off this? And how would I properly do that?

You don't have to, 3 weeks is pretty short too. I plan on staying on 6 weeks minimum, some guy I know had to stay on for 3 to 4 months to get there gyno to shrink up

 

[manifesto]

You don't have to, 3 weeks is pretty short too. I plan on staying on 6 weeks minimum, some guy I know had to stay on for 3 to 4 months to get there gyno to shrink up

Gotcha...maybe I'm being too impatient here. I'm burning through these bottles of Ralox like crazy though

 

[Hyde]

Gotcha...maybe I'm being too impatient here. I'm burning through these bottles of Ralox like crazy though

If you are planning surgery, use em up homie! Sometimes things just take longer than you want, or don’t work as well as you’d like.

 

[manifesto]

If you are planning surgery, use em up homie! Sometimes things just take longer than you want, or don’t work as well as you’d like.

Yeah, I'm going to...im sure the surgery won't be for a couple months anyhow

I just thought I remember reading to taper, or use an AI at the discontinuation of the Ralox...to avoid E2 rebound

 

[Smont]

Yeah, I'm going to...im sure the surgery won't be for a couple months anyhow

I just thought I remember reading to taper, or use an AI at the discontinuation of the Ralox...to avoid E2 rebound

I very well could be wrong but I haven't seen any rebound on raloxefine. As for dose and duration. It takes time. If it magically made gyno dissapear in 2 or 3 weeks then no1 would ever need surgery. We could just pop ralox in on every cruise or off period for 2 weeks and be gtg.

In my opinion, if surgery is not in the I immediate plans like it is not for me, then spending $100 on 3 bottles of raloxefine 2x a year is worth it. That is of course if it works for you, but you are going to need probably 6 weeks minimum to see measurable results.

I was just listening to Steve's episode about his ralox experiment the other day and he was doing like 120mg per day for 12 weeks I believe

 

[manifesto]

I very well could be wrong but I haven't seen any rebound on raloxefine. As for dose and duration. It takes time. If it magically made gyno dissapear in 2 or 3 weeks then no1 would ever need surgery. We could just pop ralox in on every cruise or off period for 2 weeks and be gtg.

In my opinion, if surgery is not in the I immediate plans like it is not for me, then spending $100 on 3 bottles of raloxefine 2x a year is worth it. That is of course if it works for you, but you are going to need probably 6 weeks minimum to see measurable results.

I was just listening to Steve's episode about his ralox experiment the other day and he was doing like 120mg per day for 12 weeks I believe

Vigorous Steve?

 

[Smont]

Vigorous Steve?

Ya

 

[Smont]

I've been going through all his old experiments lately trying to see what works and what failed so I can weed out the pointless ones. I'm feeling experimental this winter lol. Soon as I can get a 4 month block with no plans or priorities it's go time. Hopefully

 

[manifesto]

I'll check it out too....i guess I was just expecting to see some kind of change in 3 weeks, but I'll continue on.

I think another part of the problem is, I'm getting leaner and leaner, so the lumps are more pronounced and not hidden with fat anymore.

 

[manifesto]

Speaking of experimenting, I'm gonna start some Accutane soon as well.. going to try to finally get rid of this bacne I've been battling for years.

 

[Smont]

Speaking of experimenting, I'm gonna start some Accutane soon as well.. going to try to finally get rid of this bacne I've been battling for years.

Accutane is like poison for some ppl so start low.

As for the getting leaner part, yes, the leaner you get the more it will show, especially if the lower pec is underdeveloped in comparison to the rest of your chest.

If you beef up to 20% bodyfat you won't even know it's there lol

 

[Smont]

Also, I've been on about 3 weeks as well and mine has shrunk a good bit, but I was also on 100mg from day 1 and my testosterone and estrogen should both be pretty low too.

Oddly enough I'm making progress in the gym

 

[manifesto]

Also, I've been on about 3 weeks as well and mine has shrunk a good bit, but I was also on 100mg from day 1 and my testosterone and estrogen should both be pretty low too.

Oddly enough I'm making progress in the gym

Nice, are you running an AI with the Ralox?

 

[Smont]

Nice, are you running an AI with the Ralox?

Nope, I'm only on 75mg of testosterone and nothing else but raloxefine.

In another week I'm going to put my testosterone back to 150 mg and add 12.5 mg of exem on injection days Monday Wednesday Friday and ralox at 50mg.

I'm probably only going to do that for like 2 weeks and then drop the exem. Honestly there's probably no need for it at all but I just don't want estrogen to spike up a little bit while I'm raising the dose back. 150mg test muts my estrogen in the high 30's if I remember correctly which is completely fine, I just don't know if they'll be an initial Spike. Exem is also very forgiving with me. I can't seem to completely crush my estrogen with it unless I specifically try to

 

[Smont]

I'm continuing the raloxefine at 50 well I finish off this bottle and I may do a whole another bottle so another 4 weeks after that at 50 mg

 

[manifesto]

I'm continuing the raloxefine at 50 well I finish off this bottle and I may do a whole another bottle so another 4 weeks after that at 50 mg

I just watched the Vigorous Steve experiment...he seemed pretty worried about blood clotting issues and elevated liver enzymes with Ralox. He has bloodwork showing a 20 pt increase of ALT and AST. This is why he stopped, and is getting surgery.

 

[Smont]

I just watched the Vigorous Steve experiment...he seemed pretty worried about blood clotting issues and elevated liver enzymes with Ralox. He has bloodwork showing a 20 pt increase of ALT and AST. This is why he stopped, and is getting surgery.

Ya, he seems pretty worried about a lot of things if you pay attention to his videos, but the clotting risk is with all serms not just raloxefine. I didn't notice anything off on bloods but I've only had bloodwork whileon it once. But again, this is not a risk that's directly from raloxefine, it's serms or anything that's a agonist to the estrogen receptor

 

[Smont]

I just watched the Vigorous Steve experiment...he seemed pretty worried about blood clotting issues and elevated liver enzymes with Ralox. He has bloodwork showing a 20 pt increase of ALT and AST. This is why he stopped, and is getting surgery.

Every drug has "potential" side effects

 

[Smont]

Steve also has liver issues and his enzymes elevate quickly. After he treated his nafld his liver values shot back up in a test/primo cycle if I'm not mistaken

 

[manifesto]

Steve also has liver issues and his enzymes elevate quickly. After he treated his nafld his liver values shot back up in a test/primo cycle if I'm not mistaken

Yeah, it does seem they were elevated slightly at the beginning of his experiment. It seems like he also pulses methy oral steroids often. He hints to it in some of his videos. His love for SD as a pre workout

 

[Smont]

Yeah, it does seem they were elevated slightly at the beginning of his experiment. It seems like he also pulses methy oral steroids often. He hints to it in some of his videos. His love for SD as a pre workout

I don't think that has anyone to do with his liver issues, he uses SD like 1 time a week for periods of 6 weeks or something like that and anavar at 5-10mg

Unless he's lieing about his doses.

But you need to remember something, he spent like 10 straight years experimenting with stuff and liked to party when he was younger.

Plus I know multiple people who have NAFLD that never used gear in there life. It very well could have nothing to do with anabolics

 

[manifesto]

I don't think that has anyone to do with his liver issues, he uses SD like 1 time a week for periods of 6 weeks or something like that and anavar at 5-10mg

Unless he's lieing about his doses.

But you need to remember something, he spent like 10 straight years experimenting with stuff and liked to party when he was younger.

Plus I know multiple people who have NAFLD that never used gear in there life. It very well could have nothing to do with anabolics

Yeah thats a good point. I forgot he has the NAFLD...my dad has that and never really drinks at all

 

[manifesto]

Also, its 3am in SoCal....and I'm wide tf awake... my sleep has sucked lately. Bad

 

[Smont]

Yeah thats a good point. I forgot he has the NAFLD...my dad has that and never really drinks at all

NAFLD is NON alcoholic fatty liver disease, alcohol has nothing to do with it and actually cannot cause it it has to be from diet and other things. Not alcohol

 

[Smont]

Also, its 3am in SoCal....and I'm wide tf awake... my sleep has sucked lately. Bad

Can I interest you in

 

[manifesto]

Can I interest you in View attachment 218533

Do you use that? I'm always willing to try new stuff. My sleep has been pretty bad for a while. I have been taking ativan on and off for a long time for sleep/anxiety, and recently cut way back...trying to taper off completely

 

[Smont]

Do you use that? I'm always willing to try new stuff. My sleep has been pretty bad for a while. I have been taking ativan on and off for a long time for sleep/anxiety, and recently cut way back...trying to taper off completely

Ya Mike sent me some about 2 weeks ago and I've used it probably 10x now. It makes me a little more calm and sleepy but the benifits I noticed most was the ability to go right back to sleep after waking up in the middle of the night. So far feedback has been pretty good from everyone, I think rocket was the only person who was hit or miss with the product. 3scoops per night is what I'm using, and I've got a cold and allergies right now so I've been doing 2 scoops with a Tylenol pm the past few days

 

[Hyde]

You really want to schedule gyno removal in the fall. You will probably wear a wrap or compression top under your shirt for months, so it’s a lot nicer when it’s cooler out and you can cover up more comfortably.

I remember sweating balls in the summer time. And I got a hematoma on one side, so I had to wear compression even longer while it took forever dissipating, just a hot itchy pain in the warm months.

It takes forever to recover from. The incisions, the drainage/swelling, then actually just having the skin visually normalize some. It will be months before you will be ready to reveal it to anyone.

 

[manifesto]

You really want to schedule gyno removal in the fall. You will probably wear a wrap or compression top under your shirt for months, so it’s a lot nicer when it’s cooler out and you can cover up more comfortably.

I remember sweating balls in the summer time. And I got a hematoma on one side, so I had to wear compression even longer while it took forever dissipating, just a hot itchy pain in the warm months.

It takes forever to recover from. The incisions, the drainage/swelling, then actually just having the skin visually normalize some. It will be months before you will be ready to reveal it to anyone.

Thanks for that info. This is something I was wondering about. The recovery process, etc...

As I type this, I swear my chest looks much better. I think im being impatient with the Ralox, and also feeling around for lumps too often, thus making them sore and swollen.

 

[manifesto]

Lumps felt smaller all day, and didn't get puffy when I was out in the heat. The soreness is almost gone too...maybe I'm making some progress here

 

[bigdadybry]

It sounds like patience is key with Ralox and everyone is different.
I read some of those studies and while we're not pubertal boys with gyno, some studies had older men, and they ran it for a year before measuring the final results. (Please correct me if my memory is wrong)
I am sure there have been other studies. The one I am referencing was in comparison to Nolva (says my memory).

 

[manifesto]

It sounds like patience is key with Ralox and everyone is different.
I read some of those studies and while we're not pubertal boys with gyno, some studies had older men, and they ran it for a year before measuring the final results. (Please correct me if my memory is wrong)
I am sure there have been other studies. The one I am referencing was in comparison to Nolva (says my memory).

Yeah, I cane across a similar study where the subjects were on it for a real long time. I'm staying at 120 now, and hoping the lumps continue to shrink

 

[manifesto]

I'm in it for the long hall now. Holding off on surgery for now.