I'm on Phosphatidic acid Ya'll

I'm surprised you guys are so bothered by the granules, the mild taste to me isn't bothersome.

BCAA powder on the other hand, I need citrulline just to mask the taste.
 
What's the rave about lecithin granules? What effect does it have? Is this for preworkout? Some one fill me in thanks
 
Justlooking5 said:
I'm surprised you guys are so bothered by the granules, the mild taste to me isn't bothersome.

BCAA powder on the other hand, I need citrulline just to mask the taste.
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How long have you been taking them?

I used to love the taste. Now I cringe....
 
Coming up on 4 weeks. I don't mind the taste, and my muscles love it. I think I might go eat some right now actually ... mmmm those silky oily little beads of anabolism
 
Justlooking5 said:
Coming up on 4 weeks. I don't mind the taste, and my muscles love it. I think I might go eat some right now actually ... mmmm those silky oily little beads of anabolism
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4 weeks lol....

Wait till you are MONTHS deep my friend. Then lets have a chat about how "tasty" those little morsles are haha : )
 
Justlooking5 said:
I'm surprised you guys are so bothered by the granules, the mild taste to me isn't bothersome.

BCAA powder on the other hand, I need citrulline just to mask the taste.
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Flavor was kinda good at first, but has kinda gotten old for me. Still down a couple tbsp preworkout though!
 
sinewave3 said:
Flavor was kinda good at first, but has kinda gotten old for me. Still down a couple tbsp preworkout though!
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OL will be releasing a MEGA egrogenic powerhouse soon and with flavors that will spark your taste buds : )

I think you know what one ingredient might be by me posting in this thread.....
 
kboxer7 said:
4 weeks lol....

Wait till you are MONTHS deep my friend. Then lets have a chat about how "tasty" those little morsles are haha : )
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Honestly if it keeps making my muscles grow they could make it 4 day old sh** flavored (still probably taste better than BCAAs lol).

In all seriousness though, what are you noticing several months in in terms of results compared with a few weeks in?
 
Justlooking5 said:
Honestly if it keeps making my muscles grow they could make it 4 day old sh** flavored (still probably taste better than BCAAs lol).

In all seriousness though, what are you noticing several months in in terms of results compared with a few weeks in?
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Leaning out while maintaining muscle fullness. Endurance is still on point (more reps/sets).
 
BeardedBreast said:
I'm on my 12 tin of fearn and just chug it each morning. No big deal
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I've easily gone thru 18+ but you're not far behind. I liked it up till about tub 12-14ish.
 
BlockBuilder said:
You mean a PA product by Olympus Labs?
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Not exactly ; )

But it will have that + a lot of other goodies. Like I said, it'll be an ergogenic powerhouse.
 
bert45 said:
Yeaa way to much b.s to skim thru I'd rather someone chime in there results.
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Cliffs: GAINZ!!!

Seriously though: Muscle fullness, mild strength increase, increased appetite, good source of choline.

Makes my pump from the gym last all day instead of fading in an hour.
 
bert45 said:
Any specific brand your taking?
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Fearn and Optima are the two "go to" brands right now, with Fearn taking the top spot.
 
bert45 said:
Any specific brand your taking?
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I go to my local natural food store and they have it in the bull section with their spices. It's like $7/lb and I just nabbed $6 worth yesterday.

Local is nice cause you can just get a bit to try it and no shipping times means instant gratification!
 
im using optima and have a **** ton of sunflower lecithin from another brand that i got for way cheap from someone as well.

i love the taste of the stuff!

seeing that im on keto (and that soy lecithin amongst its many benefits with regards to whats being discusssed here is also a fat emulsifier/aids in fat digestion) would it be ok to take like 4 tablespoons (30g) a day? i eat between 300-400g of fat daily on keto, so i guess i need more as its all relative?

i grind the granules up into a fine powder and either sprinkle it on food or eat it by the spoonful. and since its basically all fat it would fit in well into my macros.

what do you guys think? anyone take more than the two tablespoon standard and notice added strength benefits as well? or would there be side effects?
 
jp_x_type said:
im using optima and have a **** ton of sunflower lecithin from another brand that i got for way cheap from someone as well.

i love the taste of the stuff!

seeing that im on keto (and that soy lecithin amongst its many benefits with regards to whats being discusssed here is also a fat emulsifier/aids in fat digestion) would it be ok to take like 4 tablespoons (30g) a day? i eat between 300-400g of fat daily on keto, so i guess i need more as its all relative?

i grind the granules up into a fine powder and either sprinkle it on food or eat it by the spoonful. and since its basically all fat it would fit in well into my macros.

what do you guys think? anyone take more than the two tablespoon standard and notice added strength benefits as well? or would there be side effects?
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I've gone as high as 7-8 tbsp daily. No sides for me.

I feel the best range is 4-5 tbsp though.
 
can someone post the dosing for PA? Im looking at fear lecithin granules. Looks like 2 tbs has 1200 mg of PA. How much per day and what dosing should be followed. Appreciate the help! Lining up my winter bulk then to cut down for wedding and honeymoon next summer!
 
iowaviking11 said:
can someone post the dosing for PA? Im looking at fear lecithin granules. Looks like 2 tbs has 1200 mg of PA. How much per day and what dosing should be followed. Appreciate the help! Lining up my winter bulk then to cut down for wedding and honeymoon next summer!
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2-4 tablespoon per day.

Either all dosed pre-workout or split dose (pre-workout and post-workout or with a fatty meal)
 
iowaviking11 said:
can someone post the dosing for PA? Im looking at fear lecithin granules. Looks like 2 tbs has 1200 mg of PA. How much per day and what dosing should be followed. Appreciate the help! Lining up my winter bulk then to cut down for wedding and honeymoon next summer!
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And IIRC Wilson's study dosed something like 450mg Mediator PA pre-workout, and 300mg post - or something like that. So 2-4 Tbs is a good sweet spot.
 
Took my first dose today. Just one tablespoon to try it out. Tasted ok. So should I take 2-4 tablespoons a day? Is 2 ok or not enough? Obviously pre and post on lifting days
 
BlockBuilder said:
Took my first dose today. Just one tablespoon to try it out. Tasted ok. So should I take 2-4 tablespoons a day? Is 2 ok or not enough? Obviously pre and post on lifting days
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Could always start at 2 and work your way up to 4.
 
BlockBuilder said:
Took my first dose today. Just one tablespoon to try it out. Tasted ok. So should I take 2-4 tablespoons a day? Is 2 ok or not enough? Obviously pre and post on lifting days
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Two Tbs, allowing for variance from the label for PA content, should still get you the 750mg used in the study. To be extra sure, 3Tbs definitely would.
 
so 2 tbs pre work out about 1 hr before-does this need to be taken with food? then post work out, does it matter how long after the first dose? I work out at lunch and eat about 1.5 hours after taking my pre workout cocktail.
 
SwoleNjacked said:
so 2 tbs pre work out about 1 hr before-does this need to be taken with food? then post work out, does it matter how long after the first dose? I work out at lunch and eat about 1.5 hours after taking my pre workout cocktail.
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Does not need to be taken with food.

No additional benefit was seen when taken with protein shakes in a subsequent study, so spacing out from your whey MAY yield greater benefits in some aspects.
 
I'm so curious.. How come 25grams have 183kcal with 0p 1.7c and 13.3f?
Should be 120kcal from fat and a couple from carbs.. Where are those extra 60kcal from?
 
so is the general consensus that if one were taking phospha muscle it should be double dosed? Should I even try the recommended dose first or not even waste my time? Im eventually going to switch to the granules but im recently coming off of a contest prep and cant afford the fat macs for the time being.

Thanks for the feedback
 
Darkhorse192 said:
so is the general consensus that if one were taking phospha muscle it should be double dosed? Should I even try the recommended dose first or not even waste my time? Im eventually going to switch to the granules but im recently coming off of a contest prep and cant afford the fat macs for the time being.

Thanks for the feedback
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Not a waste. But could be better. Much better.
 
Qonix said:
I'm so curious.. How come 25grams have 183kcal with 0p 1.7c and 13.3f?
Should be 120kcal from fat and a couple from carbs.. Where are those extra 60kcal from?
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Nobody can explain the mystery?

And btw why somebody would spend 5x times on a supplement with the same properties on just SL?
 
Qonix said:
Nobody can explain the mystery?

And btw why somebody would spend 5x times on a supplement with the same properties on just SL?
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1. Stomach issues due to SL
2. hate the long lasting strong Aftertaste
3. Higher dose SL=more fat
4. Caps are easier while traveling

But yes, SL is still a wonderfull PA source and I do recommend it
 
bb333 said:
I have a question,
did someone drop the fat from your diet, to make room soy lecithin?
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You certainly want to count the fat macros in SL in your daily caloric intake.

So with that in mind you may need to make adjustments.

*Keep an eye out for Tr1umph : )
 
I switched to good n natural 95% soy lecithin and there is a noticeable difference in muscle fullness and a slight strength dip from fearns granules. Can a few % really make a difference?
 
tyga tyga said:
I switched to good n natural 95% soy lecithin and there is a noticeable difference in muscle fullness and a slight strength dip from fearns granules. Can a few % really make a difference?
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We are not sure if its just few % .
Maybe Good n Natural Soy lecithin is less than 95%
 
well, just take an extra teaspoon or something then.

it could also be that g 'n n has less fat? maybe thats why you arent feeling as full on this one.

also, i suggest you dont take them by the tablespoon/volume but by weight, as the volume can vary from brand to brand, so you might be getting less now compared to when you were taking fearn.

i grind them up into a powder in the coffee grinder and either eat them as is or sprinkled on eggs, salad, chicken or whatever. love their taste. i also take them with my fish oil and fatty supps like ps, tocomin vitamin e, tudca etc for enhancing absorption.
 
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