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If you had $200 to spend for supplements, monthly....

EasyEJL said:
its just not worth spending that much. a tub of protein on top of solid food, a decent regular consumer grade multivitamin and creatine monohydrate, maybe add beta alanine. Getting fancy add BCAAs, and a preworkout (mostly for the stim). Still you aren't hitting even $100 there. You'd be better off spending it on better food in the end. free range beef, wild salmon, etc. On a fat loss phase, green coffee bean extract is a cheap addition. Those things can maybe make a 5% difference on gains/losses vs just proper eating/rest/training without them. Adding in the other more exotic stuff may make certain things feel/seem better, but no real evidence of real actual gains. If you make $250k a year then ****it spend the $200 since its a drop in the bucket income wise. Just for plenty of the guys here that is more than they pay for electricity or even a car payment.
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Agreed. This made me think of the thread asking how guys in lockup get so yoked.

Eat, workout, sleep, repeat. It's amazing what a strict regimen of rest and set schedules will do for the body. We place too much emphasis on supplements that really make probably little to no difference at all.

Protein, cheap.
Creatine, cheaper.
Multivitamin, essential.
Fish oils, take em.
Preworkout, I gotta have one.

Maybe hitting $50-$60 per month with those, and that'll do the trick if you go hard with a good routine. The rest is all just add-ons and wants. Not needs.
 
madds87 said:
Not supposed to volunteer for it ;) haha...
Im next in line lol
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I suppose it wouldn't be a grear idea to pound beer before an upcoming cycle though lol shucks..
 
Red9 said:
Agreed. This made me think of the thread asking how guys in lockup get so yoked.

Eat, workout, sleep, repeat. It's amazing what a strict regimen of rest and set schedules will do for the body. We place too much emphasis on supplements that really make probably little to no difference at all.

Protein, cheap.
Creatine, cheaper.
Multivitamin, essential.
Fish oils, take em.
Preworkout, I gotta have one.

Maybe hitting $50-$60 per month with those, and that'll do the trick if you go hard with a good routine. The rest is all just add-ons and wants. Not needs.
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This is true. But theres some good stuff out there... without some supplements i wouldnt be able to eat all of the food...
Of coarse the basics and staples are a must... some people need it... but there are some good things out there... plus food wouldnt give me the awsome workouts i get... preworkout supps do... if im lucky coffee will do that... but then im running to the toilet after... so enjoy the monopoly money 200$ you have and gimme a list! Thanx! Lol
 
madds87 said:
This is true. But theres some good stuff out there... without some supplements i wouldnt be able to eat all of the food...
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I also agree with you as well. Ever since I got into preworkouts about 8 months ago, I don't get as good of a workout without them. They are a must for me.

I haven't had much experience with test boosters or AI's, but I plan on it in the future. And just because I say $200 is a lot, doesn't mean I take my own advice ;)

...i spend way more than I should...i think I'm addicted ..
 
Red9 said:
I suppose it wouldn't be a grear idea to pound beer before an upcoming cycle though lol shucks..
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Nah.... not good at all.... but i thought pct supplements arent worth anything...? I thought it should be through food? ;)
 
Red9 said:
I also agree with you as well. Ever since I got into preworkouts about 8 months ago, I don't get as good of a workout without them. They are a must for me.

I haven't had much experience with test boosters or AI's, but I plan on it in the future. And just because I say $200 is a lot, doesn't mean I take my own advice ;)

...i spend way more than I should...i think I'm addicted ..
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Lol yeah honestly the only protein shake i can take is myofusion from gaspari... the probiotic helps a ton... and that sucker is 70 for a 5 lbs... but its only taken after workouts and busy days... so it lasts longer than a month... i realize 200 is alot but its fun to dream... who doesnt like dreaming? Thats why the lotto is so popular...
 
madds87 said:
Nah.... not good at all.... but i thought pct supplements arent worth anything...? I thought it should be through food? ;)
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Haha like I said, I don't take my own advice. Superdrol AND good food?.. Lets do it! Lol
 
I stopped everything but a cycle of sarms "osta" in order to really evaluate its effects, but pesonally if I had stick to the $200 budget I would invest the money elsewhere.
 
After all the basics are covered, I'd use the rest to pay for my cycles & gas to drive further to a better gym. Lifting in a hardcore environment can do more than any preworkout for me.
 
gahcase21 said:
I've seen several people say that about NOW, I've always been curious as to why they think that and what caused them to think that. As far as your question goes, yes I disagree.
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Well if you disagree... tell us why! Lol and give me some facts jack...
 
madds87 said:
Well if you disagree... tell us why! Lol and give me some facts jack...
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I'm still too young to give facts(only 24 post now)- soon. I'm just more curious as to what makes people believe these things about certain companies. They could very well be correct, I would like to know why.
 
gahcase21 said:
I'm curious as to what lead you to think this?
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They've been around forever, they sell their products in huge volume, so they are also subject to closer scrutiny and more testing. At their size they get good pricing from the high volume, and can afford to do decent QA testing.
 
Except for the whole not meeting label claims ordeal.
 
Diesel0022 said:
Except for the whole not meeting label claims ordeal.
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Its hard for me to think of many major company that hasn't had at least one of those or an ingredient not listed on the label at least once over their history. And particularly once a company has been hit with that once, they tend to be really careful afterwards.
 
It was multiple products from the NOW line, discourages you from purchasing
 
- Protein pudding
- Protein pancakes
- Whey protein isolate
- BCAA's
- Maltodextrin
- Creatine nitrate
- Good preworkout product
- Fish oils
- Vitamins and minerals
- Some natural anabolics/test boosters/gh boosters, 1 to be run at time
 
On months:
BULK-UP
Humapro
Modern BCAA

OFF months:
DAA Caps cheapest
Source Naturals DIM
SNS Creatine
Nutraplanet BA
Modern BCAA
Humapro

In the end I do not consider $200 a month a ton to spend on something you enjoy doing on a daily basis. Smokers spend a ton on cigs a month. People that go to the movies every weekend spend a lot. People that enjoy going to sporting events spend a lot. Those that enjoy eating out can easily get to 200 a month. Finally those that are young and enjoy going to trendy clubs easily can spend 200 in a night, I know I used to(idiot). Personally I would rather someone sink 200 a month into bettering them selves vs getting wasted like millions do each week. Just my 2 cents.
 
Basics:
A SPORT multivitamin
ALA
Digestive Enzymes
Whey protein
Mix protein (egg/casein)
Creatine
Leucine
Glutamine

Other add-ons:
L-Alanine
L-Glycine
Beta Alanine
Citrulline Malate+Agmatine+AAKG (straight pump)
Nettle Root
Maca
DAA

If I have MORE MONEY I'll throw peptides in there....no hormonal stuff OTHER THAN test boosting things like maybe low dosed Clomid.
 
EasyEJL said:
Its hard for me to think of many major company that hasn't had at least one of those or an ingredient not listed on the label at least once over their history. And particularly once a company has been hit with that once, they tend to be really careful afterwards.
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I can see your point in that, Kind of like going on a airplane after the airline just had a plane crash. You would think it would be the safest of all cause they are so cautious at that point. The issue with now is they fail on multiple products, then improve and pass, then fail again, then pass again etc. Their are several big companies with lots of sku's that never seem to fail. I wouldn't necessarily say that I would never buy on of their products, I just wouldn't call them "a reliable and reputable company, and make stand-up products". It seems they have a problem being consistent with their quality control for some reason. I've always been really curious at how people get so devoted into believing this about certain companies- what info leads them to think this?
 
EasyEJL said:
Its hard for me to think of many major company that hasn't had at least one of those or an ingredient not listed on the label at least once over their history. And particularly once a company has been hit with that once, they tend to be really careful afterwards.
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I can see your point in that, Kind of like going on a airplane after the airline just had a plane crash. You would think it would be the safest of all cause they are so cautious at that point. The issue with now is they fail on multiple products, then improve and pass, then fail again, then pass again etc. Their are several big companies with lots of sku's that never seem to fail. I wouldn't necessarily say that I would never buy on of their products, I just wouldn't call them "a reliable and reputable company, and make stand-up products". It seems they have a problem being consistent with their quality control for some reason. I've always been really curious at how people get so devoted into believing this about certain companies- what info leads them to think this?
 
gahcase21 said:
I've seen several people say that about NOW, I've always been curious as to why they think that and what caused them to think that. As far as your question goes, yes I disagree.
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As for why I think they are reliable and reputable...i cant think of another company that produces and markets like they do. I can literally go to almost any supplement shop, in store or online, and will find tons of NOW products from their line-up. Hihealth, G.N.C., vitamin shoppe, tommys, NutraPlanet, Lockout, Orbit, NutritionArsenal, shoot even my local vitamin store and half of the local food stores and drug strores around.

I think they strive to make quality products at prices that are very reasonably priced and that your average customer/consumer can afford.

As for the label claims, NOW is far from the only company who might have had a "slip up" in purity or meeting label claims. If you hold up 5 of your favorite supplements, I'd be willing to say that probably 2 of those, their company has had the same issue of meeting exact label claims (whether we know about it or not) !
 
FourInchFury said:
Have you ever taken a step back and thought about how you could really be harming your body by taking all these muscle gain / energy supplements? The FDA doesn't do studies on them. Most of them are too new for anyone to know the potential long-term side effects. The recent Hydroxycut recall is evidence that these products can be dangerous. And using common sense, it's clear our bodies didn't evolve while being exposed to all these synthetic chemicals, so the potential for long-term damage is huge.What's wrong with achieving your goals the 100% natural way? Just sayin'
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You must be from BB.com ;)

J/K lol kinda....
 
FourInchFury said:
Have you ever taken a step back and thought about how you could really be harming your body by taking all these muscle gain / energy supplements? The FDA doesn't do studies on them. Most of them are too new for anyone to know the potential long-term side effects. The recent Hydroxycut recall is evidence that these products can be dangerous. And using common sense, it's clear our bodies didn't evolve while being exposed to all these synthetic chemicals, so the potential for long-term damage is huge.What's wrong with achieving your goals the 100% natural way? Just sayin'
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The FDA approves plenty of substances that turn out to be harmful so I would not assume that their approval 100% guarantees safety. You caould also apply your logic to many of the things found in the common diet. Preservatives, pesticides and so on were never in our diet 100's of years ago. Our bodies did not evolve with hammer strength and ellipticals either. I think it would be hard to doubt the safety of many supplements since they are found in the food supply. Many more people die every year from NSAIDS than have ever died from supplements yet they are OTC and considered safe. If you eliminate the people that have died from improperly using supplements, ie exceeding recommended dose or disregarding warning labels, you would be hard pressed to find many issues.

As far as doing it naturally who cares. I have terrible eye sight should I stay natural and not wear glasses? Do as you please and allow others to do the same.
 
pushinweightw said:
The FDA approves plenty of substances that turn out to be harmful so I would not assume that their approval 100% guarantees safety. You caould also apply your logic to many of the things found in the common diet. Preservatives, pesticides and so on were never in our diet 100's of years ago. Our bodies did not evolve with hammer strength and ellipticals either. I think it would be hard to doubt the safety of many supplements since they are found in the food supply. Many more people die every year from NSAIDS than have ever died from supplements yet they are OTC and considered safe. If you eliminate the people that have died from improperly using supplements, ie exceeding recommended dose or disregarding warning labels, you would be hard pressed to find many issues.

As far as doing it naturally who cares. I have terrible eye sight should I stay natural and not wear glasses? Do as you please and allow others to do the same.
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Fact. There are so many damn recalls and what not on drugs. FDA approved drugs.
 
Red9 said:
As for why I think they are reliable and reputable...i cant think of another company that produces and markets like they do. I can literally go to almost any supplement shop, in store or online, and will find tons of NOW products from their line-up. Hihealth, G.N.C., vitamin shoppe, tommys, NutraPlanet, Lockout, Orbit, NutritionArsenal, shoot even my local vitamin store and half of the local food stores and drug strores around.

I think they strive to make quality products at prices that are very reasonably priced and that your average customer/consumer can afford.

As for the label claims, NOW is far from the only company who might have had a "slip up" in purity or meeting label claims. If you hold up 5 of your favorite supplements, I'd be willing to say that probably 2 of those, their company has had the same issue of meeting exact label claims (whether we know about it or not) !
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Sounds like a pretty good point. I'll still stick with the companies that never seen to have failures or at least less than NOW
 
gahcase21 said:
Sounds like a pretty good point. I'll still stick with the companies that never seen to have failures or at least less than NOW
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That's the beautiful thing about America..you are free to do as you choose. Do whatever you feel is best.
 
Wow now were wondering whether or not to take supplements..... lol.... lets see if we can start veering off and talk about 200 dollars monthly for steroid cycles..... lol....
 
$200 dollars:

Orange Triad (Multi Vitamin)
Scivation Whey (proteinz)
Antaeus Labs Achilles (Joint support)
Fahrenheight Labs "Endurance" (Preworkout)
 
BigBlackGuy said:
$200 dollars:

Orange Triad (Multi Vitamin)
Scivation Whey (proteinz)
Antaeus Labs Achilles (Joint support)
Fahrenheight Labs "Endurance" (Preworkout)
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Oh wow onion man in the house!!!! Sry everytime i see you i think if that log you did of eating a bazillion onions... lol
 
ModernBCAA (currently 19.99 @ NP!!!)
creatine mono ($15)
5lbs protein ($40)
AP ($28)
Bulk-Pslin ($20)
Glycofuse ($38)

Then you have about $40 for whatever else, if a pre-workout tickles your fancy maybe go that route. Maybe an all in one test booster like TestPowder?

You can leave that $40 for whatever phase you may be doing as the "icing" on the cake, so to speak.
 
Hmm 200 doll hairs?

Slintensity or a GDA of choice
5lb tub of nnw healthy whey
Creatine mono or MCC
Ad-3 PCT
Pre workout
 
Distilled Water said:
ModernBCAA (currently 19.99 @ NP!!!)
creatine mono ($15)
5lbs protein ($40)
AP ($28)
Bulk-Pslin ($20)
Glycofuse ($38)

Then you have about $40 for whatever else, if a pre-workout tickles your fancy maybe go that route. Maybe an all in one test booster like TestPowder?

You can leave that $40 for whatever phase you may be doing as the "icing" on the cake, so to speak.
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Ok new usp rep ;)
 
Distilled Water said:
;-) Look back at my OG logs, I'm an AP & P-Slin whore.

If I had any, I'd send you some ModernBCAA samples. Forget the 8:1:1 leucine ratio, taste & mix ability alone will have you sold.
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I was a pslin fan back in the day.. i just had a hard time figureing out the dosages... and when to eat and such... hmmm that good huh? Well i might have to get some... im due for some bcaas.. time to get back into training... im still on a Break
 
madds87 said:
I was a pslin fan back in the day.. i just had a hard time figureing out the dosages... and when to eat and such... hmmm that good huh? Well i might have to get some... im due for some bcaas.. time to get back into training... im still on a Break
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If you need help with the dosing, shoot me a PM. I've tried about 7,567,712 different ways and I think I got it down :-D
 
Distilled Water said:
If you need help with the dosing, shoot me a PM. I've tried about 7,567,712 different ways and I think I got it down :-D
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7567712!!! Wow... guess you would be the pro. ;). Ight holms i gotta buy it first... ill def be talkin to you later
 
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