MrKleen73
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BOOM!!!But the other 315mg of that 465/wk are ass-kicking Trest & Tren!![]()
BOOM!!!But the other 315mg of that 465/wk are ass-kicking Trest & Tren!![]()
Awesome numbers man! You put in work, respectable. We were just DMing about my upcoming TD trest, trenavar and oral ment cycle and I had no idea you were running trest and tren, is this the first time for you with this combo? I have a lot of hopes for it. Liking it so far? I'm guessing you are pinning tren though and not using trendione, but still similar enough with the trest and all. You are a beast man, keep it up.11/28/23 - Day 6
Bench
205x8
245x6
280x5
300,305,310,315,320x3
275x9,7
Low Incline
45,135x10
205,215,225x5
NG DB Bench
50x12
80x10
90x8
95x6,5
Widegrip Lat Pulldown
70,110x8
150 4x12
ss w/ Williams Plate Raise to Overhead
45 4x12
Cable Bar Tri Pressdown
50 3x20
I am really feeling & loving the trest & tren in training! Seeing a huge increase in my capacity to tolerate greater workload. Part of that is also the large increase in food, as well as making the mental decision to really go after something full tilt, but these drugs really compliment this scenario.
Awesome numbers man! You put in work, respectable. We were just DMing about my upcoming TD trest, trenavar and oral ment cycle and I had no idea you were running trest and tren, is this the first time for you with this combo? I have a lot of hopes for it. Liking it so far? I'm guessing you are pinning tren though and not using trendione, but still similar enough with the trest and all. You are a beast man, keep it up.
Awesome man, sounds like a really legit cycle, just to clarify, how much primo are you running a week? 120-200mg? Or were you talking about a past cycle? My bad.Yeah, in 12 years of steroid use I’ve never cycled actual injectable tren, only the trendione oral a couple times, and some tren base as a preWO some during a peaking cycle. And some oral and nasal Mtren also just at competitions or peaking sessions, but that’s an entirely different active steroid.
I’ve also only ever used Trest Ace for about 4 weeks at 5-15mg, with something like 180-210/120-200 test/primo.
So far, liking the even lower testosterone in this scenario. With the primo frontload I have only needed to take 12.5mg Exemestane once, besides my DIM & P5P twice a day.
Awesome man, sounds like a really legit cycle, just to clarify, how much primo are you running a week? 120-200mg? Or were you talking about a past cycle? My bad.
Awesome man, primo, my favorite. Love the side free benefits, estro control and the unique roundish look it gives muscles. What concentration is it? Good old primo PIP? Haha. I used to run between 400mg to 1 gram of primo a week along with 300mg test E or so. Painful workouts the entire cycle solely because of the 200mg/ml primo E I was using.Past, the time I tried some Trest Ace. Scroll back up a few posts if you want to see my exact anabolic protocol now - it’s hot out the gate on this blast!
Awesome man, primo, my favorite. Love the side free benefits, estro control and the unique roundish look it gives muscles. What concentration is it? Good old primo PIP? Haha. I used to run between 400mg to 1 gram of primo a week along with 300mg test E or so. Painful workouts the entire cycle solely because of the 200mg/ml primo E I was using.
Well, I thought 200mg/ml Primo E into the delt PIP was bad, until I injected an ML of 100mg/ml primo ace. Literally the most painful injection I’ve done and I can put up with some pain.
Regardless, interested to see how the trest/tren/primo/test works out. Sounds like a serious but smart cycle.

Damn man, injecting 500mg of the primo in one go? For 4 weeks? What’s your opinion on the whole “it takes a long time to primo to shine argument”? just to throw this out there, when I was pinning primo and test, I bought a 60 tab bag of 50mg oral primo ace. I took 200mg pre workout since I already had 800 of primo E IM in my system. My thinking was, being acetate I could potentially take advantage of the short half life for a pre workout and to enhance the primo.200mg/ml of Primo E. PIP is there as expected, but it’s acceptable - just doing a single 2.5cc shot weekly for 4 weeks in glutes or vg, so I can ignore it. I roidtested this batch previously and it’s legit.
Honestly, putting 60mg test e subq e3d in glute fat has worse PIP, but it definitely slows the release for more of a background application. So I put it IM today in my preWO Trest/Tren syringe to dodge that bullet![]()
Damn man, injecting 500mg of the primo in one go? For 4 weeks? What’s your opinion on the whole “it takes a long time to primo to shine argument”? just to throw this out there, when I was pinning primo and test, I bought a 60 tab bag of 50mg oral primo ace. I took 200mg pre workout since I already had 800 of primo E IM in my system. My thinking was, being acetate I could potentially take advantage of the short half life for a pre workout and to enhance the primo.
I do not normally run short cycles, and I NEVER frontload, because firepower needs to always increase as the body adapts and new AR are created.
Same here, I've frontloaded quite a lot, especially my test or test/primo cycles. Although, a gradual titration like @Hyde was implying makes a lot of sense the more I think about it.Thinking this is where I fell down this go around, but live and learn!
So if you go back and read the last 6 days, you will see this blast is essentially like a ~7 week powerbulk to try to finally crack a 405lb bench. Mg are accordingly stout from the very get-go, because every single bench day matters significantly & scales aggressively to prepare me for the attempt. I do not normally run short cycles, and I NEVER frontload, because firepower needs to always increase as the body adapts and new AR are created. My last cycle was 20 weeks, beginning at 550mg and slowly titrating up to near a gram, then spiking to ~1600 the month prior to the meet while peaking.
I have one vial of primo, so just using it up for the low-side anabolism & extra collagen synthesis to help prevent injury (I don’t have EQ on hand and don’t want to use Deca with Trest & Tren). The testosterone is just in to maintain well-being & basic functions. All the horsepower will be driven immediately by the pair of aces, with some preWO orals coming soon likely.
Holy **** batman that is a lot of primo, working up to 1600mg a week pre comp?
You know your **** way better than I do and I know your experience is lightyears ahead, but I've ran primo for the past 3-4 years in cycles of 12-16 weeks and the strength gains were always minimal, did you choose the primo because it's a safer roid that will still get your RBC up? Maybe does wonders for stamina? I know it does wonders for aesthetics the longer you run it.
As far as my strength per compound goes, turinabol for strength and endurance and anadrol for massive strength, even more so than dbol or superdrol for me. How do you respond to halotestin? I took that as a pre workout for a PST when I was transitioning units at work, also took soome of that V02 max you had told me about. I killed the physical exam and was ready to go for more after I finished. Ever take that for a comp or something? Did wonders for me, especially when I knew my numbers were competing with most guys that use roids regularly for work.
Hahaha ok, now that makes sense. I was like, ''primo in prep for a lifting comp?''lol hell no I wasn’t using any primo for meet prep. Test/Mast/DHB with Anadrol for a couple 9-10 day waves over the last month. So ~1,600mg/wk total when I was using the 50 Adrol/day.
Only Halotestin I ever had was bunk/underdosed.
Mtren is what I add on the day of comp, and a bit of Dbol.
Putting up great numbers as always…..I’ve never tried Trest with Tren. That power blast is going to put you beyond Beastmode, and poor Mrs. Hyde is going to be so wore out.11/28/23 - Day 6
Bench
205x8
245x6
280x5
300,305,310,315,320x3
275x9,7
Low Incline
45,135x10
205,215,225x5
NG DB Bench
50x12
80x10
90x8
95x6,5
Widegrip Lat Pulldown
70,110x8
150 4x12
ss w/ Williams Plate Raise to Overhead
45 4x12
Cable Bar Tri Pressdown
50 3x20
I am really feeling & loving the trest & tren in training! Seeing a huge increase in my capacity to tolerate greater workload. Part of that is also the large increase in food, as well as making the mental decision to really go after something full tilt, but these drugs really compliment this scenario.
This was the kind of raw, niche, testosterone-overloaded grass-roots lifting that got me into the sport when the raw days were in infancy, coming off the crazy multiply era. When people pushed it just for love of the game, not social media likes.That’s just pure power….crazy strong. It’s impressive just to see how fast he moved through the different weight moving up to his final lifts. Truly a BeastInvalid Link Removed
^Andrew Hause making powerlifting great againThis was the kind of raw, niche, testosterone-overloaded grass-roots lifting that got me into the sport when the raw days were in infancy, coming off the crazy multiply era. When people pushed it just for love of the game, not social media likes.
Man I hope your bronchitis clears up. My wife has been dealing with it for a couple of weeks now. Of course she’s not squatting over 500 lbs for 3 reps though.11/30/23 - Day 8
BW 258.4
KB Suitcase Carries
KB One-leg Deadlift
RFE Split-Squat
Squat, Duffalo Bar
55,165,275,325x5
+1-ply Gateway briefs, yellow jacket sleeves, deadlift belt
385,407x3
+powerbelt
429,451,473,501x3
Hacksquat
180,230,270x15
Lying Leg Curl
90x15
115 2x8
Felt pretty sick yesterday, had this bronchitis for about 3.5 weeks now since the Olympia, and I knew I had to head out in the field to do an upgrade/cutover from 11-2am last night so I didn’t train. But since I was out in the freezing cold on that project, boss let me off work a couple hours early today - so I had the time to go make the training up.
Squats were feeling heavy, but no big surprise there, so I put the Spud gateways on & my old Titan yellow jackets & things basically kept getting better the heavier I worked up. Tried Hacks for the first time in eons; they actually felt decent on my knees with the compression from the yellow jackets - and truly excellent quad activation.
Man I hope your bronchitis clears up. My wife has been dealing with it for a couple of weeks now. Of course she’s not squatting over 500 lbs for 3 reps though.
385, 407, 429, 451, 473, 501x3, that made my knees hurt just reading that. Looks like the Trest/Tren combo helped overpower that bronchitis. Can’t wait to see your workouts, when those lungs clear up. Trest and Tren alone always cranked up my metabolic furnace and I would always have night sweats. I couldn’t imagine them together, but they will help keep you warm in that cold, and obviously keep the power going up.![]()
If I stopped training every time I was sick, I would never be able to progress.Hope you feel better.
Your log should come with a warning, like warning once entering you will feel a strong call to the darkside.![]()
Yeah, it’s that constant tear and repair, glad you’ve got a good one though.My ART guy was asking me about today’s training because he knows I’ve committed towards going after 405. When I broke the workload down he was like holy crap; once he realized the sledgehammer I’m employing he really went after a lot of different stuff like when I was peaking for my last meet. He knows his job right now is just to try to keep me injury-free best he can.
Broke up stuff on my pecs where they insert at the clavicle, my rhomboids, got a lot of stuff at the top of the tricep long head near the insert. It’s crazy how much stuff piles up, and how quickly, when you start pushing hard.
That actually sounds like a potentially painful session with the ART lolMy ART guy was asking me about today’s training because he knows I’ve committed towards going after 405. When I broke the workload down he was like holy crap; once he realized the sledgehammer I’m employing he really went after a lot of different stuff like when I was peaking for my last meet. He knows his job right now is just to try to keep me injury-free best he can.
Broke up stuff on my pecs where they insert at the clavicle, my rhomboids, got a lot of stuff at the top of the tricep long head near the insert. It’s crazy how much stuff piles up, and how quickly, when you start pushing hard.
That actually sounds like a potentially painful session with the ART lol
I would bet you are right, the primo feel is a real thing. Felt great running up to a gram. What do you attribute the 30+ BPM to? I'm guessing the tren? Never ran it but have heard it's like, thermogenic, etc.Day 11
BW 262.4
Weight still coming on nicely. Moved the 500mg primo glute shot from Friday back to Saturday this week, and it will go to Sunday next week so it can be done after deadlifting (so it doesn’t affect that training). No deadlifting or any training today because I have bloodwork Tuesday morning at 7. Been off Mk677 the last few days, and will stay off until after bloods so it’s easier to hit a vein. Also, test is about 187.5mg/day this week because I am finishing a vial and added my Trest/Tren so it can all be administered daily in one slinpin.
Something to note is the profound sense of overall wellbeing I have been noticing. I felt more aggressive the first few days of Tren, but now I feel very calm overall. With my wife, son, work, traffic, everything - it’s like I can appreciate the issues, but they seem outside of me, unimportant in the big scheme. This detachment isn’t like apathy - more like zen, & there is more empathy than ever. I want to be kind to other people, & I have more patience for everything. Not sure if it’s Trest, tren, or the combo at this dosage. Maybe the primo is part of this?
Also, BP is great at 114-124/68-74, but pulse was 95-97 today. Normally it’s 57-64 on cruise.
Agreed, I love how I feel after getting some good ART done, and as long as things aren't already hypersensitive it is exactly that painful but a good pain that a lot of relief follows. Even the times I was surprised by a tear falling down my cheek were worth it for the amount of recovery which then conditions you to enjoy the pain because you know the reward is coming.It’s very similar to the feel of rolling out or using a lax ball on something with a knot, or a jigsaw/theragun massager. It’s a “good kind of hurt,” where things are immediately loosening up after the burn. I always look forward to it.
I would bet you are right, the primo feel is a real thing. Felt great running up to a gram. What do you attribute the 30+ BPM to? I'm guessing the tren? Never ran it but have heard it's like, thermogenic, etc.
Agreed, I love how I feel after getting some good ART done, and as long as things aren't already hypersensitive it is exactly that painful but a good pain that a lot of relief follows. Even the times I was surprised by a tear falling down my cheek were worth it for the amount of recovery which then conditions you to enjoy the pain because you know the reward is coming.
Awesome about the Zen thing, I feel like I have gotten used to the new dose and everything has become more like this. I think part of it was also just becoming aware of it and separating myself from the initial reaction to even get annoyed which has helped immensely because an annoyed mind is not focusing on anything but the annoyance and a clear mind can see a bigger picture. Probably something different than what is going on with you but happy I am handling the increase better now.
This detachment isn’t like apathy - more like zen, & there is more empathy than ever. I want to be kind to other people, & I have more patience for everything. Not sure if it’s Trest, tren, or the combo at this dosage. Maybe the primo is part of this?
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all jokes aside, I really loved that feeling on Ultra Hard. I sorta think it was the androsterone because I haven't been able to quite replicate that "I'm 17 in my first fast car and every day is a sunny day and holy **** that chick is hot, so is that one and that one and that one and I'm young and cool and never gonna die" feelingbut I also think it was the andro that gave me those minor sides so I haven't been able to perfectly replicate it.
You’re still pushing some good bench numbers, even while dealing with the elbow. Hopefully that elbow clears up, but it looks like the Predator program is working for you, and was the right program to go crush a 405 bench.12/5/23 - Day 13
Bench
205x8
245x6
280x5
320x3
330,340 2x2
260x11,9
Low Incline
45x10
135,185x5
235 3x4
Bloodwork this morning, and took a 50mg Anadrol immediately after to help survive this heavy bench day. Making some quick strides pushing on this program, but it is a tough mother. Incline bench just destroyed my elbow, worst than last week, so db pressing or any further pressing was out - I will be subbing incline bench for something else going forward.
Ran out of time due to starting late after my bloodwork, but will make up the lats & plate raises tomorrow.
You’re still pushing some good bench numbers, even while dealing with the elbow. Hopefully that elbow clears up, but it looks like the Predator program is working for you, and was the right program to go crush a 405 bench.
Yep, little steps in improvement stack up and can take you a long way.Elbow is totally fine if I don’t push the flexion ROM beyond what it can handle, but incline simply does this even with my middle finger on the ring (wider than my comp grip even). This is why I can’t do overhead press at all currently.
That being said, ART doc is making some further headway still slowly on my elbow - he just yesterday finally worked on the anchor point where my tendon was reattached to the forearm. As long as upstream stuff was too adhered, it wouldn’t have helped, but now that so much has been removed from along my bicep him working the attachment immediately resolved some pain during supination I’ve had for 4 years now. I could feel a difference on bench today, probably gave me a finger-width closer I can press again if I choose. It all adds up.
Yes, at the end of every rep you say "I am Top G!"Can you explain Tate plate raise to overhead please
Can you explain Tate plate raise to overhead please

Congrats on being able to move your CG in closer. That is a big development for you!