Hyde’s Strength Odyssey

SkRaw85 said:
Dam I didn’t realize that was 6. Makes sense after cuts tho.
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I’m not sure what you took what I said to mean, but I was trying to say I’ve competed in 5 powerlifting meets weighing in under 220 - my second meet I even did as a 198, which I had foodborn colitis 3 weeks out shitting blood, so that went pretty poorly

Dustin07 said:
Hey for further self education...
You fasted until this morning but lifted at 7am. What did your break-fast look like and at what time? I imagine you must have started eating no later than 5am?
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5:30 drank ~20oz water
5:45 drank 2oz pure cranberry juice & 6oz grape juice (iodine,fructose)
6:00 began sipping 16oz water with 50g Karbolyn & 22g Gatorade Endurance (300mg sodium)
6:15 drank 8oz chicken bone broth (240mg sodium)
6:25 71g carbs from salted sticky rice bowl, 2 scrambled eggs
6:35 cup of black coffee, 6oz water with Daft Pump
6:55 begin sipping intra made of 64oz water, 50g Karbolyn, 55g Gatorade Endurance (800mg sodium), 3g taurine, 5g BCAA

Post training around 9:30am I was 232.6lbs.
 
Hyde said:
I’m not sure what you took what I said to mean, but I was trying to say I’ve competed in 5 powerlifting meets weighing in under 220 - my second meet I even did as a 198, which I had foodborn colitis 3 weeks out shitting blood, so that went pretty poorly



5:30 drank ~20oz water
5:45 drank 2oz pure cranberry juice & 6oz grape juice (iodine,fructose)
6:00 began sipping 16oz water with 50g Karbolyn & 22g Gatorade Endurance (300mg sodium)
6:15 drank 8oz chicken bone broth (240mg sodium)
6:25 71g carbs from salted sticky rice bowl, 2 scrambled eggs
6:35 cup of black coffee, 6oz water with Daft Pump
6:55 begin sipping intra made of 64oz water, 50g Karbolyn, 55g Gatorade Endurance (800mg sodium), 3g taurine, 5g BCAA

Post training around 9:30am I was 232.6lbs.
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Yeah the thought of you at 220 just seems off as I’m used to seeing you hulk around here at giant status. It’s all relative lol
 
SkRaw85 said:
Yeah the thought of you at 220 just seems off as I’m used to seeing you hulk around here at giant status. It’s all relative lol
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Yeah some of us old timers remember when he wasn't even 200lbs yet. Years of consistency, blood, sweat, and gear at work there!
 
SkRaw85 said:
You’re telling me this slab of man was a were mortal once?!?! Not buying it.
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Lol well, unfortunately here’s some proof…

1/23/23

Reverse Hyper
180 2x20

KB Suitcase Carries
Bird Dogs
Side Planks
Single Leg Deadlifts
Band Pullaparts/Flyes/Dislocations
Bodyweight Squats

Squat, squatbar
55 2x5
145x3
235x3,1
325x2
+comp sleeves
375x2
+belt
415,445,465x2
485 - partial hamstring tear in the hole, dumped bar over head into tow straps

Squats felt much heavier than I wanted to, but I was well prepared for this session so I really can’t say why. At least 600g carbs yesterday, calorie surplus, well hydrated, lower stress levels, keeping up with sleep, thorough warmup, mobility checklist & activation, didn’t rush things, lower stim - I really hit every angle to be ready. My diet has been much higher quality overall lately too, with nutritious food consistently.

Walked 485 out with conviction, descended fast, as soon as I hit the hole I felt the BANG as my muscle popped and I collapsed down to my knees in a flash, when the bar immediately bent me forward, smacked over my head and landed in the straps hanging from the mono. Packed it up and hobbled home to get some ibuprofen going to get inflammation down.

465 was a brutal set, and I knew for sure I wasn’t going over 500 as planned, but I needed more work. 485x2 would keep me on track for the meet, and 415xAMRAP would have been actually more risky/less useful I felt because I am not in a surplus, plus I figured if the first rep of 485 was a grind I could just rack it. So all of my logic to take the weight was correct when I look back objectively - parts just failed.
 
My left adductor/ham area towards the groin is much bigger/swollen than the right, but there is no bruising so it has to just be inflammation/fluid. This morning I couldn’t go up a step, but now I can if I focus on using my quad and the ball of my foot. I cannot sit down, get up, or bend over without pain & going slowly, but I can do single leg deadlifts with my right leg so I do think it’s the ham and not the adductor as of now.

I’m not really sure what this means for the meet in 8 weeks or my training. There’s no refunds, so I will probably go bench if nothing else - I only need to beat 314lbs for a 220 bench PR
 
Hyde said:
Lol well, unfortunately here’s some proof…

1/23/23

Reverse Hyper
180 2x20

KB Suitcase Carries
Bird Dogs
Side Planks
Single Leg Deadlifts
Band Pullaparts/Flyes/Dislocations
Bodyweight Squats

Squat, squatbar
55 2x5
145x3
235x3,1
325x2
+comp sleeves
375x2
+belt
415,445,465x2
485 - partial hamstring tear in the hole, dumped bar over head into tow straps

Squats felt much heavier than I wanted to, but I was well prepared for this session so I really can’t say why. At least 600g carbs yesterday, calorie surplus, well hydrated, lower stress levels, keeping up with sleep, thorough warmup, mobility checklist & activation, didn’t rush things, lower stim - I really hit every angle to be ready. My diet has been much higher quality overall lately too, with nutritious food consistently.

Walked 485 out with conviction, descended fast, as soon as I hit the hole I felt the BANG as my muscle popped and I collapsed down to my knees in a flash, when the bar immediately bent me forward, smacked over my head and landed in the straps hanging from the mono. Packed it up and hobbled home to get some ibuprofen going to get inflammation down.

465 was a brutal set, and I knew for sure I wasn’t going over 500 as planned, but I needed more work. 485x2 would keep me on track for the meet, and 415xAMRAP would have been actually more risky/less useful I felt because I am not in a surplus, plus I figured if the first rep of 485 was a grind I could just rack it. So all of my logic to take the weight was correct when I look back objectively - parts just failed.
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I hope it's nothing serious. absolutely bizarre how you can do everything right and have a bad day. I swear my PRs occur on days I just do not want to go in at all. You think it's a small recovery ?
 
Hyde said:
My left adductor/ham area towards the groin is much bigger/swollen than the right, but there is no bruising so it has to just be inflammation/fluid. This morning I couldn’t go up a step, but now I can if I focus on using my quad and the ball of my foot. I cannot sit down, get up, or bend over without pain & going slowly, but I can do single leg deadlifts with my right leg so I do think it’s the ham and not the adductor as of now.

I’m not really sure what this means for the meet in 8 weeks or my training. There’s no refunds, so I will probably go bench if nothing else - I only need to beat 314lbs for a 220 bench PR
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well silver linings, you got bench in the bag for a PR.
 
Dustin07 said:
I hope it's nothing serious. absolutely bizarre how you can do everything right and have a bad day. I swear my PRs occur on days I just do not want to go in at all. You think it's a small recovery ?
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It’s really hard to say yet since I don’t know what exactly I’m working with. I’ve never had a squat blow anything and take a fall like that. I’m grateful nothing else got hurt incidentally in the accident.

SkRaw85 said:


Man! Hopefully nothing serious. You got this.
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Yeah, you know how it goes. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
 
Dammit, that sucks dude! Don't know how else to put it. Hopefully some rest and therapy will get it feeling right soon. Gonna give it some time or already planning on getting it checked out?

Was just popping in to say you inspired me, thinking pretty seriously about signing up for a meet in June at the gym I was lifting at a couple years back.
 
ANABOLICWRWLF said:
Dammit, that sucks dude! Don't know how else to put it. Hopefully some rest and therapy will get it feeling right soon. Gonna give it some time or already planning on getting it checked out?

Was just popping in to say you inspired me, thinking pretty seriously about signing up for a meet in June at the gym I was lifting at a couple years back.
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No plans to get it checked out - there’s no chance of any kind of full detachment, so there’s nothing that can be done, orthopedic-wise. Partial tendon or muscle belly tears are something you just have to heal - do the rehab work to break up scar tissue, strengthen, restore ROM.

You should sign up! You spend all the effort getting stronger; you might as well go have some fun! Having a comp looming makes every session matter more, & the environment offers an excitement that the gym never can. There is a gravity and adrenaline that helps validate all the hard work it took.
 
Prayers coming your way!
 
Hyde said:
I’m not sure what you took what I said to mean, but I was trying to say I’ve competed in 5 powerlifting meets weighing in under 220 - my second meet I even did as a 198, which I had foodborn colitis 3 weeks out shitting blood, so that went pretty poorly



5:30 drank ~20oz water
5:45 drank 2oz pure cranberry juice & 6oz grape juice (iodine,fructose)
6:00 began sipping 16oz water with 50g Karbolyn & 22g Gatorade Endurance (300mg sodium)
6:15 drank 8oz chicken bone broth (240mg sodium)
6:25 71g carbs from salted sticky rice bowl, 2 scrambled eggs
6:35 cup of black coffee, 6oz water with Daft Pump
6:55 begin sipping intra made of 64oz water, 50g Karbolyn, 55g Gatorade Endurance (800mg sodium), 3g taurine, 5g BCAA

Post training around 9:30am I was 232.6lbs.
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Is the juice and Gatorade not loaded with sugar?

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Oh man, that’s horrible. Hoping for a speedy recovery , and I know it will be with your attention to proper recovery.
 
ANABOLICWRWLF said:
Dammit, that sucks dude! Don't know how else to put it. Hopefully some rest and therapy will get it feeling right soon. Gonna give it some time or already planning on getting it checked out?

Was just popping in to say you inspired me, thinking pretty seriously about signing up for a meet in June at the gym I was lifting at a couple years back.
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I’d highly recommend doing a meet at least once. I’ve only done one so far. Every single person was super nice and open to talk. It’s an amazing environment and energy. I really need to do another one!
 
Hyde said:
You should sign up! You spend all the effort getting stronger; you might as well go have some fun! Having a comp looming makes every session matter more, & the environment offers an excitement that the gym never can. There is a gravity and adrenaline that helps validate all the hard work it took.
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Jeremyk1 said:
I’d highly recommend doing a meet at least once. I’ve only done one so far. Every single person was super nice and open to talk. It’s an amazing environment and energy. I really need to do another one!
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Is there a one-stop website that lists all meets, or do you have to search specific feds or just straight google “powerlifting meet jacksonville (etc)”?
 
First meet I ever did was oly. I got confused in the excitement and mathed my kilos poorly. Couldn't figure out why that snatch was so easy then got off stage and realized I just hit my high warm up weight perfectly lol
 
RegisterJr said:
Is there a one-stop website that lists all meets, or do you have to search specific feds or just straight google “powerlifting meet jacksonville (etc)”?
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A lot of times they are listed on the federations website. However I found the one I did by searching pretty much what you said at the bottom. "Powerlifting meet near me" then started looking at the federations.


@Hyde I hope your recovery goes well. I guess it is a good time to be on HGH.
 
The upside is that the superhero always gets his ass beat about half way through the movie, then wins so hard they sign him for two more.
 
RegisterJr said:
Is the juice and Gatorade not loaded with sugar?
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The grape juice was some old 100% grape juice from concentrate taking up space in the back of the fridge - so 100% fructose. Combining fructose with glucose has been found to actually increase rate of uptake & metabolism of both. I was looking for about 25g here from juice, because while normally consuming fruit with fiber & micronutrients is the ideal, that is not ideal in a rapid rehydration scenario (post fast or weighin).

Gatorade is indeed loaded with sugar (first ingredient) which is about 55% glucose & 45% fructose. Gatorade Endurance swaps dextrose for maltodextrin, which could be thought of a bit like dextrose with an ester attached to delay release, but the ratios are still off - but it does boast useful levels of sodium and potassium, so combining it with Karbolyn (powdered corn/rice/potato for glucose) works very well here.

The core things to consider for rapid hydration is having significant glucose (like cheap pure dextrose powder) with some fructose (cup of 100% juice or 25g fructose powder) and lots of sodium. No fiber or anything that needs digested; it needs to be liquid.

You could do a lot worse for an intra than just using bulk dextrose mixed with some Kool Aid or Country Time pink lemonade powder and a 1/4 tsp of iodized table salt, honestly. The regular country time has yellow #5 in it, so avoid that.

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Jeremyk1 said:
I’d highly recommend doing a meet at least once. I’ve only done one so far. Every single person was super nice and open to talk. It’s an amazing environment and energy. I really need to do another one!
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Was that the one we both did together but somehow did not even meet one another??

RegisterJr said:
Is there a one-stop website that lists all meets, or do you have to search specific feds or just straight google “powerlifting meet jacksonville (etc)”?
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Kleen covered you. I normally just go to the USPA website because they have a good presence in the Midwest, but powerlifting watch is the only database I know that can show a lot of different federations besides USPA (it is clunky). Otherwise you will need to search the individual federations’ websites.

Mr Green said:
Maybe time to bump the growth up a bit.
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That’s exactly what I’ve done, pinned 2iu last night and 2 this morning.

Also mixed up 5mg of BPC157 and used 500mcg bolus last night and then 250mcg this morning in my ham closest to my taint.

Dustin07 said:
The upside is that the superhero always gets his ass beat about half way through the movie, then wins so hard they sign him for two more.
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Massive decrease in pain and swelling this morning and I haven’t taken any ibuprofen since 8pm yesterday. Took my leg through a variety of drills & gentle stretches like heel slides on the bed, etc. I could use it to walk up steps today I couldn’t yesterday!

To explain the deficit, I currently cannot press from a lunged/split squat position (or squat or anything that requires that activation at depth). But parts are all attached and still no blood so it’s just going to be rehab from here.
 
About that shot, it sounds like it taint no fun!
 
Hyde said:
The grape juice was some old 100% grape juice from concentrate taking up space in the back of the fridge - so 100% fructose. Combining fructose with glucose has been found to actually increase rate of uptake & metabolism of both. I was looking for about 25g here from juice, because while normally consuming fruit with fiber & micronutrients is the ideal, that is not ideal in a rapid rehydration scenario (post fast or weighin).

Gatorade is indeed loaded with sugar (first ingredient) which is about 55% glucose & 45% fructose. Gatorade Endurance swaps dextrose for maltodextrin, which could be thought of a bit like dextrose with an ester attached to delay release, but the ratios are still off - but it does boast useful levels of sodium and potassium, so combining it with Karbolyn (powdered corn/rice/potato for glucose) works very well here.

The core things to consider for rapid hydration is having significant glucose (like cheap pure dextrose powder) with some fructose (cup of 100% juice or 25g fructose powder) and lots of sodium. No fiber or anything that needs digested; it needs to be liquid.

You could do a lot worse for an intra than just using bulk dextrose mixed with some Kool Aid or Country Time pink lemonade powder and a 1/4 tsp of iodized table salt, honestly. The regular country time has yellow #5 in it, so avoid that.

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I remember back in the day Bill Phillips advocated putting creatine powder in grape juice post workout. That’s how he got the idea for the EAS Phosphagen HP
 
sammpedd88 said:
I remember back in the day Bill Phillips advocated putting creatine powder in grape juice post workout. That’s how he got the idea for the EAS Phosphagen HP
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Right, back then i thought I was going to get huge off of creatine with grape juice. The initial loading phase made you think the stuff was magic.
 
sammpedd88 said:
I remember back in the day Bill Phillips advocated putting creatine powder in grape juice post workout. That’s how he got the idea for the EAS Phosphagen HP
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MrKleen73 said:
Right, back then i thought I was going to get huge off of creatine with grape juice. The initial loading phase made you think the stuff was magic.
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sammpedd88 said:
Oh the ol’ loading phase
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Celltech. 5g of creatine + 120g of sugar. guarantied to help you put on some sorta mass.
 
Hyde said:
Lol well, unfortunately here’s some proof…

1/23/23

Reverse Hyper
180 2x20

KB Suitcase Carries
Bird Dogs
Side Planks
Single Leg Deadlifts
Band Pullaparts/Flyes/Dislocations
Bodyweight Squats

Squat, squatbar
55 2x5
145x3
235x3,1
325x2
+comp sleeves
375x2
+belt
415,445,465x2
485 - partial hamstring tear in the hole, dumped bar over head into tow straps

Squats felt much heavier than I wanted to, but I was well prepared for this session so I really can’t say why. At least 600g carbs yesterday, calorie surplus, well hydrated, lower stress levels, keeping up with sleep, thorough warmup, mobility checklist & activation, didn’t rush things, lower stim - I really hit every angle to be ready. My diet has been much higher quality overall lately too, with nutritious food consistently.

Walked 485 out with conviction, descended fast, as soon as I hit the hole I felt the BANG as my muscle popped and I collapsed down to my knees in a flash, when the bar immediately bent me forward, smacked over my head and landed in the straps hanging from the mono. Packed it up and hobbled home to get some ibuprofen going to get inflammation down.

465 was a brutal set, and I knew for sure I wasn’t going over 500 as planned, but I needed more work. 485x2 would keep me on track for the meet, and 415xAMRAP would have been actually more risky/less useful I felt because I am not in a surplus, plus I figured if the first rep of 485 was a grind I could just rack it. So all of my logic to take the weight was correct when I look back objectively - parts just failed.
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Hopefully it’s not a tear and is just pulled or strained. Maybe get you some BPC 157 and TB 500 to go with the HGH.
 
gphagan1 said:
Hopefully it’s not a tear and is just pulled or strained. Maybe get you some BPC 157 and TB 500 to go with the HGH.
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Posted By Hyde

That’s exactly what I’ve done, pinned 2iu last night and 2 this morning.
Also mixed up 5mg of BPC157 and used 500mcg bolus last night and then 250mcg this morning in my ham closest to my taint.
 
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Dustin07 said:
Celltech. 5g of creatine + 120g of sugar. guarantied to help you put on some sorta mass.
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My first supplement besides protein powder

gphagan1 said:
Hopefully it’s not a tear and is just pulled or strained. Maybe get you some BPC 157 and TB 500 to go with the HGH.
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Yessir! To be totally clear, a pull or strain is actually slang for a tear, medically expressed as grades 1, 2, or 3. I’m definitely not grade 3, and praying it’s just grade 1!

What Rocket posted below is actually a quote from my earlier post:

Rocket3015 said:
That’s exactly what I’ve done, pinned 2iu last night and 2 this morning.

Also mixed up 5mg of BPC157 and used 500mcg bolus last night and then 250mcg this morning in my ham closest to my taint.
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I swear there has already been a huge difference!
 
SkRaw85 said:
You thinking you’re gonna do bench only route?
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If that’s all I can do, but the fact there’s no bruising and it’s still 7.5 weeks away, I expect I should be able to lift something by then even totally untrained basically. I only need to beat 1,340 to PR my best 220 total.
 
1/25/23

Reverse Hyper
Empty,45x20
90 2x20

Band Pullaparts, Flys, Extensions, Dislocations

Lat Pulldown
70,110x10
150x8

CG Bench
45x7,5
95x5
135,185,225x3
255,285,305,315,325x1

Dips
BW,25,45x12
70 3x8

DB Bench
40,50,60,70x20

Band Tri Ext
Monster Mini x50,25,25

alt DB Rotators
5 2x20

20” Boxsquat
BWx25

So pumped I was able to squat to 20”! 48 hours ago I couldn’t step up onto a curb with my left leg; this recovery is insane. When I felt it pop I absolutely collapsed, and I can almost do a one-leg deadlift with that leg now.

Building momentum on my max effort exercises - 2 weeks ago did 315 CG Floorpress, then 320 MG Swissbar last week, now 325 CG Benchpress. Got a good setup for dips figured out; happy to be doing 300 total lbs or so for sets of 8. I think they’re going to help!
 
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Congrats on that quick recovery so far! Also congrats on the obvious progress in bench numbers.
 
Hyde said:
Yesterday was an avocado and 1/2 serving each of ghee & coconut oil in a coffee for an evening meal so I could take my Indomethacin - 400 calorie fasting-mimicking day. Woke at a new low of 231.2. Got the Christmas 3-day splurge knocked off and then some.

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Ending the year back under 105kg, dropped all the 15kg of last prep season & lower body is stronger and more muscular than this time last year. Achieved lifetime Bench & Total PRs and was able to get back over 600 on raw squat & deadlift this year.

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^160 test e, 140 mast e/wk. Pulled 535x3 conventional on a regular bar & squat 500 on a buffalo bar since surgery 3 weeks ago, and benched 315+40 bands on a buffalo right before it - I think comp numbers to end the year would be a conservative 530/340/590. Could probably make a 1,500 total at 220 raw in about 4 weeks if I wanted.
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Solid gains there mate!!!
 
Hyde said:
1/25/23

Reverse Hyper
Empty,45x20
90 2x20

Band Pullaparts, Flys, Extensions, Dislocations

Lat Pulldown
70,110x10
150x8

CG Bench
45x7,5
95x5
135,185,225x3
255,285,305,315,325x1

Dips
BW,25,45x12
70 3x8

DB Bench
40,50,60,70x20

Band Tri Ext
Monster Mini x50,25,25

alt DB Rotators
5 2x20

20” Boxsquat
BWx25

So pumped I was able to squat to 20”! 48 hours ago I couldn’t step up onto a curb with my left leg; this recovery is insane. When I felt it pop I absolutely collapsed, and I can almost do a one-leg deadlift with that leg now.

Building momentum on my max effort exercises - 2 weeks ago did 315 CG Floorpress, then 320 MG Swissbar last week, now 325 CG Benchpress. Got a good setup for dips figured out; happy to be doing 300 total lbs or so for sets of 8. I think they’re going to help!
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Nice, you pushed right through that…looks like that hamstring is gonna be alright.👍
 
1/27/23
BW 233.6

Reverse Hyper, alt between every set
90,115,140,175,210,245,278,303x20

Inverse Rows
3x12

9” Blockpulls, stiffbar
95,145x10

5” Blockpulls, stiffbar
145,195,245,295x10

Did this in the garage on lunch break today. Had a long day with work on the road yesterday; by the time I got home I was cold, hungry and spent. I could have taken a bunch of caffeine and pushed through, but that didn’t make much sense. Very happy I got the extra rest, food, sleep.

300lbs is a personal best at 20 reps on the reverse hyper, so it’s safe to say I can push those safely as hard as I please! Some very minor pain pulling from 5” blocks, but nothing that would dissuade me.
 
SkRaw85 said:
Nice reverse hypers! Miss those built ones. Mines only rated for 4 plates
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Thanks! I had recently taken a break from them, and really pushed my RDLs up for a couple months (315x10 -> 425x8). When I returned to them, I found I could handle like 90 more lbs.

If you don’t swing it any and try to do them as tempo work, you can probably get a lot out of the scout still.
 
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