how will trenavar compare to trenbolone??
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Royd The Noyd
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Not knowing the dosing or having any user feedback yet its pretty hard to say.
schwellington
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ya no one knows yet what the conversion rate will be although PA said it looks to be significant- how he knows this i have no idea but the man is very educated
UnrealMachine
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if it converts to tren then it will be comparable, it's just a matter of dosing. I am curious to see how it's dosed... to see how many bottles I will have to buy 
hungryH
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he also said toxicity is usually related to the potency of the compound...if this is as strong as tren, I don't see how it could be non hepatoxic
laserbluess
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what is trenavar? i cant stay on top of everything that comes out. it seems like each week there is something new. also, who is making trenavar?
mmowry
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IBE/PHF and it is an oral PH to trenbolone we should be beta testing by early to mid next month.
jbryand101b
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it compare to trenbolone just like any other dione compares to it's parent hormone.
one person may need only 40mg (just tossing out numbers i dont really know) another person may need 80mg.
it's going to vary person to person, and be like most other pro hormones.
one person may need only 40mg (just tossing out numbers i dont really know) another person may need 80mg.
it's going to vary person to person, and be like most other pro hormones.
xFRACTION
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The toxicity should be lowered due to no C17 methylation and Ive never heard about anyone having liver issues from trenbolone. Attitude issues but not liver issues.
Trenbolone can affect liver enzymes.
Toxicol Sci. 2002 Dec;70(2):202-11.15
mmowry
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So can high protein intake, weight training and a ton of other things. There isnt a steroid out there that doesnt effect enzymes to my knowledge, its just "to what degree". Like Ive siad Ive never heard of liver problems/complications from trenbolone. But I have from Epi,M1T, SD and many others.
laserbluess
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well hot damn, IBE seems to be on a roll lately. first boladrol now this! need testers?! lol
jw80
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and Mentabolan.....
zachmanman
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so how is tren being modified to be orally usable?
methyl tren is pretty insane, I don't know how this will change it
methyl tren is pretty insane, I don't know how this will change it
hungryH
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never heard of liver problems from epi. where have you?
BB12
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jbryand101b
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trenbolone itself due to the nature of its structure has more bioavailability than testosterone taken orally.
with this being said, again, d/t it's structure, it will cause more strain on the liver to break down, simialr to how dienolone & pro dienoloen does. because of it's structural characteristics.
it isn't going to be on par with a methylated steroid, but if one gets post cycle blood work, they can expect to have elevated liver enzymes.
and yes, methepiostnaol can also elevate liver enzymes d/t it being 17a methylated.
with this being said, again, d/t it's structure, it will cause more strain on the liver to break down, simialr to how dienolone & pro dienoloen does. because of it's structural characteristics.
it isn't going to be on par with a methylated steroid, but if one gets post cycle blood work, they can expect to have elevated liver enzymes.
and yes, methepiostnaol can also elevate liver enzymes d/t it being 17a methylated.
hungryH
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I would run 10 weeks of epi without a worry in my mind.
I people in Ireland run an oral the entire cycle, (well, people who buy off my supplier...in fairness all he's got is test-e, and various orals).
But they run their dbol or winny for up to 16 weeks.
from the bloodwork I've seen on epi, it honestly looks less toxic than var. seriously dude, the stuff barely seems to change alt/ast levels at all.
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Im not posting this one in particular because it's more impressive than other epi bloodwork, but because I just saw it today and the tab was still open.
Cliffs:
-ran 30/40/50/50(half week)/60/60 epistane
- no support supps(other than a daily banana? lolwtf)
-drank heavily 6 nights during the cycle
- bloodwork, taken morning after the last dosage,
AST 29 IU/L 0-40
ALT 34 IU/L 0-55
Please post a link where you saw epi causing liver damage.I'd really like to see it
henryv
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There's a couple of lawsuits relating to people who used epi and were hospitalized with liver problems.
hungryH
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repped.
again though, I'd still run epi for 10 weeks without hesitation lol(if it was worth it in terms of gains)
Ive run it at 80mg for 8 weeks, along with 180mg xtren
BB12
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hungryH
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NICE! What's that PCT look like?
nolva and advanced pct(6bromo) 5 weeks
hungryH
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the cycle itself would be comparable to a test/tren cycle at generous doses, was suprisingly good, one of the best cycles Ive ever run and I am quite experienced