this is exactly what i will be running in 2 weeks..40 mgs of epi with 4 caps of hdx2 eod.glad solitude reposted it
thanks for the response although i only understand details vaguely...protracted? 6aohtest? oxygen for bromine?...what thread are you refering to, i didnt seem to find anything?
Yes, exactly. Not 100% of course, it never hurts to have some tor or clom just in case, but this looks like a very solid 8wk plan all the way around. I would be extremely surprised if your LH/test levels were lower after 8wks of this!
I agree, always got a good loading effect from it too. It was just the acne and gyno that turned me off to PP. Otherwise, loved the mental from it and liked the gains too.
Taking the HD before you go to bed is the most important thing, no matter what shift you work. If you can take 1 cap twice while you're up and 2 more caps before you go to sleep, you'll still get a great response, practically as good as per every 6hrs which is just the ideal way but not the only way. I will dose per 8hrs like this 1/1/2 and it still works quite well I've found.
Awesome...thanks DD, you rock da house! :djparty:
Sorry. By protracted I mean it has a residual impact on estrogen biosynthesis, where estrogen remains low for some time even after you discontinue the supp. 6-hydroxytestosterone is a metabolite, not one you really want either, but this is not the thread for that! Oxygen and bromine are just atoms, they can be substituted for hydrogens on molecules with carbon cycles, like the ones we're discussing. That's really beyond the scope of this thread, but it's an issue of steric and electronic fit on the receptor. I'm not sure where the thread is where I was making my points, I have sense abandoned it. I was being baited again it seems but I do not want it brought to this thread so that is all I will elaborate.
No, not too mild, I used to pulse 19-Nordiol/4-AD with great succcess! The doses need to be sufficient though, about 300mg 1AD and 600mg 4AD as a starting point.
How would u go up on doses, and using an AI( let's say ATD) and cortisol control on days OFF?
i understand thanks Dr. D.
Alright, I'll do that guys. Thanks.
While Superdrol isn't all that androgenic on paper, It sure brings out the beast in me in the gym. I feel like pounding on my chest between sets and throwing my fecal matter all around the place. LOL
LOL!!
methoxy TRN or any or one of its knock offs.... BUT if you can find the original its GOLD as far as androgenic compounds go.. aggression out the yang energy and strength hardness and pumps... i LOVED this comound but its so much androgenic i would only run it in the future stacked with an anabolic or only pulsed preworkout, its very strong works VERY fast and its only dosed in the sub 10mg's... like 4.5-8mg its perfect for pulsing...... check my log on this...
Thanks poopy, I'll check it out.
well ALRI did the OG M-TRN .... look as hard as you can and ask around as much as possible for it... then if not mega-TRN from generic labz is your best bet.. they were said to be the only ones to get the compound correct...... the currecnt version out now is very questionable as to what is actually in it... its similar as far as what people are experiencing BUT they are getting mas gains off of it... wich leads me to belive its VER anabolic as well and not the fully correct compound.... that one is called trenadrol... they claim its the same BUT they even have it dosed at 30mg/pil... no way in hell its the same when the other ones were 1.5mg/pill and 2mg/pill respectively.. the original always being the strongest going to show its potency at a lower dose.... GL in finding it as if you do you wont be let down.
Ah ok, thanks for that. :thumbsup:
I use a custom designed program created just for me, but it is a full body training type of program.
you refuse to read dont you.
Well, whats interesting is that i've seen a few people say that on pulses, it doesn't seem to. On a full cycle it does tho.... I was wondering the same for my upcoming cycle, i'm back to confused as to what to actually take compound wise, as I'd like to avoid taking a prescription type SERM, which precludes doing a regular cycle.
I would be concerned with it possibly aggravating gyno on a pulse due to the fact there may be a rebound effect on the off days. Make sure you take anti-estrogen/AI on your off days. You can stick to the bare basics like 100-200mg of 6-oxo each night.
About as usual with doses. The AI maybe nightly because 4AD shuts down pretty fast, and the DHEA could be daily if you like but might get a bit androgenic stacked with 4AD. 150mg on off days sounds fine though.
If you're responding well and making gains, I wouldn't add another anabolic, but doubling up the cissus or taking some glucosamine for a week might help.
Zinc lozenges for the sore throat! Cold-Eze are nasty, but work. Sundown brand makes a really good punch flavored one with Vit. C and echinacea in it too.Hi guys
I need some advice.
Currently I'm on my Day 33 of my pulse cycle, and I woke up this morning and I got flu and sore throat again, this is the second time I got it during this cycle.
The first time I catch the cold was on Day 19, I stopped dosing all my supps, stop training for 4 days, and took some medicine and antibiotic during that 4 days, after that I was fine then I resumed everything, but now it has happened again, but not as bad as last time.
What do you guys think could be the cause? Could it be because of my cycle, or maybe I just push myself too hard, or maybe there are just some virus going around near me at the moment?
Any advice on what should I do next? I just got back from the doctor again, and I got myself my meds and antibiotics for 4 days treatment like last time.
Since I'm not as sick as last time, I'm thinking of just continuing training and continue my cycle while taking my meds, would that be a really really dumb idea??
Never take 2 new things at once! Always try things separately for at least the first time. You can't really go wrong pulsing either as your first cycle, just take the conventional supports using the general formula. You can get fancy next time, after you have some experience.
Author sent me some of his 1.0 mg beta caps of Methoxy-TRN and they were pretty darn good alright. 6 of those bad boys and libido was just silly man, I mean totally off the hook for the rest of the day. :head:
sounds fun
Guys, don't forget (and I emphasized this back some place in this thread already) that Epi is WAY different from the current knock-offs. About the only thing they seemed to share in common when I compared the most popular clone was the strength gains. I would not count on anything but genuine Epistane to provide consistent or residual anti-gyno benefits.
Yes, for a few glorious days in a row, it was quite delightful. Even the generic ring tone on my cell phone reminded me of cheesy porn flick music! I had a one track mind. lol
ya i think this one was a case much like with epi... everyone who tried the OG TRN raved about great libido but those that had Mega TRN from generic labz had the strength and hardness and endurance but their libido dropped like a rock... aint nothin like the original with everything ive seen come out... phera plex was the same too... man i wish we could still get ahold of AX PP....
I would say that the best advice to give is to listen to your own body and make your decisions on the fly.
So if I understand this correctly basically in 5 weeks you'll only be dosing 8 times, right?
I think the comparison he was making was between:
Yep that's right. Any thoughts on dosing times with these?
That's exactly what I was trying to say. I think I'll take your advice and try the 6 times dosing out of 5 weeks first and see how it goes. If it's fairly steady, then I'll stick to it. No sense in pushing up the dosage too quickly.
