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This formula looks SICK! Can't wait to get my hands on some tubs!
This formula looks SICK! Can't wait to get my hands on some tubs!
I think it looks great. Citrulline, agmatine, and ALCAR are 3 of my 4 go-to non-stim pre-workout ingredients (the 4th being taurine), and it has great doses of all of them. I also LOVE adaptogens, and eleuthero, rhodiola, and schizandra are some of my favorites. With that said, since I use these adaptogens very frequently myself, not knowing much about the extracts turns me off a bit. Would you happen to know how much salidroside the rhodiola provides, how much eleutherosides the eleuthero provides, and is the 2% listed for the schisandra extract in regards to schizandrins? Or if the extracts are standardized for something else? I know it's possible that you don't want to and/or aren't at liberty to provide this information though.This is the STIM FREE version (just in case that needed clarification).
What's everyone think?
The way the label reads is a bit misleading:looks pretty good but 10 servings is kind of a let down, you should make a size for people who are willing to just pay more and get a full 30 serves instead. very sweet profile though can't wait to see the stim one.
oh right lol that's allot better then giving high volume a run for it's money haha bdccThe way the label reads is a bit misleading:
There are 40 scoops per container, for a total of 20 (2 scoop) servings.
Clear pm'sI think it looks great. Citrulline, agmatine, and ALCAR are 3 of my 4 go-to non-stim pre-workout ingredients (the 4th being taurine), and it has great doses of all of them. I also LOVE adaptogens, and eleuthero, rhodiola, and schizandra are some of my favorites. With that said, since I use these adaptogens very frequently myself, not knowing much about the extracts turns me off a bit. Would you happen to know how much salidroside the rhodiola provides, how much eleutherosides the eleuthero provides, and is the 2% listed for the schisandra extract in regards to schizandrins? Or if the extracts are standardized for something else? I know it's possible that you don't want to and/or aren't at liberty to provide this information though.
Cleared.Clear pm's
No sir.Isn't dmae considered a stimulant? Also what are the uses for adaptogens?
Very soon my friend. Very, very soon.bruh why isn't this in my hands yet...
The novel stim is sexy ; )Looks good for sure. Will definitely be in my rotation. Glad it's nitrate free too. I can add hydro as needed. I'm more concerned with that novel stim though
Really?Disappointed no nitrates but would try...
Personally, with 4g citrulline and 1g agmatine (also what I take from bulk powders), I find that the addition of nitrates doesn't provide any additional benefits.Really?
I think once you give it a shot you'll forget all about those nitrates : )
Ya, IDK, HV just set the bar pretty high for me... Interested in the stim version of this though, so time and tub will tell...Really?
I think once you give it a shot you'll forget all about those nitrates : )
So far 4 patented ingredients have been released so one patented stim. Hmm.. what could it be...
Also someone aware me on "elevatp"
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/260944047_The_effect_of_ElevATPon_whole_blood_ATP_levels_a_single_dose_cross_over_clinical_studyelevATP™, a supplement containing plant-derived inorganic microelements and apple polyphenols, was previously shown to increase endogenous whole blood ATP levels in healthy human subjects. In this report, we tested the supplement in a larger cohort and assessed the effect of the supplement in muscle. Methods: Twenty healthy, fasted, and resting adult human subjects participated in this acute, placebo-controlled, single-dose crossover clinical study. Oral placebo was administered on the first day of testing followed by a single, 150 mg dose of elevATP™ on the second day. Blood was collected immediately prior to treatment, 60 and 120 minutes after ingestion. Whole blood ATP, plasma ATP, hemoglobin, blood lactate, and blood glucose levels were collected. A muscle biopsy was performed on one resting study subject before, and 60 and 120 minutes after, a single dose of elevATP™. Results: elevATP™ increased whole blood levels of ATP by 40% after 60 minutes (p<0.0001) and by 28% after 120 min (p=0.0009) versus baseline, pre-supplementation levels. ATP plasma levels did not increase after elevATP™ administration under these experimental conditions. Intramuscular ATP levels from biopsy of one patient increased significantly at 60 and 120 minutes after ingestion of elevATP™ and reached higher levels than ATP measured in whole blood. Conclusions:These results indicate that elevATP™ increases intracellular ATP in blood cells, confirming results from a previous study, and suggest that it may increase ATP in muscle tissue. Further clinical testing is needed to confirm tissue- and organ-specific changes in ATP levels following ingestion of elevATP™.
Investigating whether elevATP™ may improve muscle performance and endurance in young and aged individuals and such experimentation is also justified and is currently in preparation.
The effect of ElevATP™on whole blood ATP levels: a single dose, cross over clinical study.. Available from: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/260944047_The_effect_of_ElevATPon_whole_blood_ATP_levels_a_single_dose_cross_over_clinical_study [accessed Oct 27, 2015].
I count 5So far 4 patented ingredients have been released so one patented stim. Hmm.. what could it be...
Also someone aware me on "elevatp"
It will have all the patented stuff, but a number of things in the stim free profile are unique to it only.So will the stim version have all this plus stims or are the stims replacing something in this?
I count 5
Alphasize
Nitrosigine
ElevATP
Bioperine
Hydromax
Looks great! Will be buying unless the stim version peaks my interest, But I can just add my stims to this.
I Find Nitrates best on Cardio days so will possibly use hydro3 for cardio and CU for lifting
^ this. Once ingredients are revealed for the stim version, you'll want to pick up a tub of each.It will have all the patented stuff, but a number of things in the stim free profile are unique to it only.
A tub implies only 1 of each A.^ this. Once ingredients are revealed for the stim version, you'll want to pick up a tub of each.
AwareCan somebody link me to a study in resistance trained males, showing benefits associated with oral ingestion of Marc Lobliner's new form of Creatine, Creatinol O Phosphate? I've looked and all I can find are cardio-protective injections, and some stuff in Italian dealing with influenza.
Would it be possible to share this info with the rest of the board as well? I, for one, would be interested.Clear pm's
COP is not creatine. I've tried COP from Prototype, however their COP is superior because it's effervescent. I noticed less shortness of breath between sets and more endurance.Can somebody link me to a study in resistance trained males, showing benefits associated with oral ingestion of Marc Lobliner's new form of Creatine, Creatinol O Phosphate? I've looked and all I can find are cardio-protective injections, and some stuff in Italian dealing with influenza.
I know that...you know that...most 10 million AM members know that - but Lobliner doesn't, LOL.COP is not creatine.
And there it is folks!Here it is folks-- nutraplanet release of CU and stim free CU http://nutraplanet.com/products/olympus-labs-conqu3r-unleashed-np-exclusive/
When you order BPI whey HD protein, you get free shipping on the whole order too. You're seeing this out ahead of the NP email going out tomorrow morning so get yours first!
whoa...Here it is folks-- nutraplanet release of CU and stim free CU http://nutraplanet.com/products/olympus-labs-conqu3r-unleashed-np-exclusive/
When you order BPI whey HD protein, you get free shipping on the whole order too. You're seeing this out ahead of the NP email going out tomorrow morning so get yours first!
Yes, insane intro price on Conqu3r Unleashed stim and stim-free versions, and some nice protein deals if you're in need. With the BPI Whey free shipping option, this sale is a no brainer for multi-tub buys.whoa...
I have noticed acute strength boost from alpha-GPC dosed at 250-300mg pre workout.out of curiosity, why only 250 mg. of Alpha-GPC in the stimulant free version (who knows how much in the stimulant version)? The studies used 600 mg., and many people find 900 mg. to be more effective.
Thanks,
Crowbar
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