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Hman's cutting up!

Irish Cannon said:
I think it was around 60-80g, and yes, those were my only carbs during the day.

I got real lean again around this past Christmas, but I still couldn't lose that bottom layer of fat around my lower abdomen. I hope to rid myself of that on this cut.
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That last little bit is always rediculously stubborn for me. The best results I have had with getting rid of that last bit of fat was through a cortisol controlling agent along with my fat burner... I have trouble focusing when I drop my carbs as low as you guys do.

How long do you guys usually run your cuts? 12 weeks? 16?
 
GMG760 said:
That last little bit is always rediculously stubborn for me. The best results I have had with getting rid of that last bit of fat was through a cortisol controlling agent along with my fat burner... I have trouble focusing when I drop my carbs as low as you guys do.

How long do you guys usually run your cuts? 12 weeks? 16?
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Usually until the job is done. The longest I've cut for is about 8 months. I lost ~60lbs. Recently, my cuts/recomps have lasted more like 2-3 months.
 
Good day fellow am'ers! I am about to get to the gym and hit chest and tri's. I will be doing lower reps and higher weight to hold onto my strength but will keep the volume down a bit.Cardio after is a must and will be doing some later today as well since i didn't get mine in this morning. I have a good feeling about my progress this week.
 
hman85 said:
Good day fellow am'ers! I am about to get to the gym and hit chest and tri's. I will be doing lower reps and higher weight to hold onto my strength but will keep the volume down a bit.Cardio after is a must and will be doing some later today as well since i didn't get mine in this morning. I have a good feeling about my progress this week.
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Dude my workout sucked today in terms of strength (awesome in terms of kicking my butt). I could hardly push any weight at all towards the end of it. I'm basically cruising from this past week thru this week, and then I'll probably get back on a heavy-load routine like yourself.
 
GMG760 said:
That last little bit is always rediculously stubborn for me. The best results I have had with getting rid of that last bit of fat was through a cortisol controlling agent along with my fat burner... I have trouble focusing when I drop my carbs as low as you guys do.

How long do you guys usually run your cuts? 12 weeks? 16?
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Which cortisol product would you recommend? Supress-C looks interesting, but the deal on LX+AlphaBurn looks nice too. All I've been using for cortisol is VitC.

How about this...

LX+AlphaBurn
RK-500
Speed V2
 
I've yet to use suppress-c .

Lean Xtreme was my favorite. I loved the leanX DCP stack.
 
Alright guys I have a problem. I do this every time I try to get really diced. My weight keeps dropping but I don't seem to be much leaner in my ab love handle area. Thats were I hold the majority of my fat I have dropped 10lbs(+-2lbs) and it seems that that amount of weight dropped should have me looking much leaner than i am. I am not sure what to do. Am I losing muscle? Or do I just have a lot more fat to lose than i thought? I am sick of this, I can't seem to get this last section off. waist seems to be sitting around the same size but a little smaller. What should i do guys?
 
How are you dosing Relora?
 
Yes and Yes. it helped out a lot around my lower back and love handles. I suggest getting two bottles, I had results with one, but the second month was better.

I liked the LeanX and DCP stack a lot too.
 
hman85 said:
3 a day. Should I alter this?
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Well first let me say, Id suggest a topical before upping your Relora. You have 250mg caps right?
 
I agree. Napalm seems to be the best route. I've tried Napalm for a week and saw results. Unfortunately my skin did not like Napalm for whatever reason and I had to discontinue.
 
Naplam it is. I will have to wait a bit to get it though because I am broke and I want to get that and lean extreme and adipo-x or recreate. So thats what i will do.
 
hman85 said:
Naplam it is. I will have to wait a bit to get it though because I am broke and I want to get that and lean extreme and adipo-x or recreate. So thats what i will do.
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Go with Eviscerate, I say. Everyone that liked Napalm seems to enjoy Eviscerate even better. I used Napalm and liked it, but it wasn't a godsend. I was still stuck with the lower abdominal fat.

I'll be doing a LeanX, AlphaBurn, Eviscerate, and Adipo X stack.

I used Recreate and wasn't impressed. It seemed so mild. I really think Adipo X is great stuff.
 
love me some Recreate! :afro:
of course a crack addict like IC would find RC to be 'mild'..you're a stim junkie dude! :woohoo:
RC is low-stim, but highly effective for fat-loss and muscle-preservation..I'm a fan.
I was never impressed with my (albeit short) run with topicals. my route is pinpoint diet, solid supp support (big fan of L-carnitine too, can also use some Forslean in addition to RC), and training like a madman! :fool2:
 
snagency said:
love me some Recreate! :afro:
of course a crack addict like IC would find RC to be 'mild'..you're a stim junkie dude! :woohoo:
RC is low-stim, but highly effective for fat-loss and muscle-preservation..I'm a fan.
I was never impressed with my (albeit short) run with topicals. my route is pinpoint diet, solid supp support (big fan of L-carnitine too, can also use some Forslean in addition to RC), and training like a madman! :fool2:
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Now that you say this, the more I'm second guessing buying another topical. When I was using Napalm and had decent results, my diet was also very low-cal and I was doing tons of cardio.

I agree with the l-carnitine and forslean. I was using that SuperCuts 3 product from Universal along with forslean and had real good results.

I like stims, but I've "grown up" in a sense, and have found plenty better products for weight loss that are non-stimulant based. Stims are sort of the icing for me; just for fun.
 
Did some cardio this morning and will do some more later in the day. I think I am losing weight to fast so I might have to bump up my cals a bit. I am also having am moderate carb day today. I think that I am losing muscle which is something I would like to keep to a minimum. I am really not good at cutting I never know if I am losing muscle of fat its weird. I seem to think it's going well and then I start second guessing myself and wonder if its muscle. I wish I had a bod pod in my house that would help. lol
 
snagency said:
throw out a sample of your daily diet.
might have a couple ideas for you.
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Thanks snag!

meal one-protein shake 5g glutamine, 25gramsworth of oatmeal,2 tbs pb

meal 2-8ounces ground beef, broccoli

meal 3-same or chicken broccoli and almonds

meal 4 - (postworkout) protein shake, 5g'glutamine, 2tb pb

meal 5- steak or beef or chicken and large salad with vinegar olive oil dressing

meal 6- Protein shake 5g glutamine, handfull of almonds


On days I work outside(mowing yards, meals 2 and 3 might be subbed for sandwich on ww bread with 8oz turkey, some mayo (made with olive oil) and mustard
 
Serious lack of T&A round here these days.

Libido Check
 

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all right..

if we utilized AnabolicPump, we could structure carb intake differently..
but just utilizing your diet (which is a good one btw), we could make the following tweaks:
throw in 3g fish oil w/ meals 1 & 6
add in some grapefruit for breakfast
2 Recreate + 1g L-carnitine upon rising, eat 30min later
also, 2 RC + 1g L-carnitine 30min preWO
BCAA support thruout workout
get some carbs in postWO -- some brown rice, oats, or even rice cakes (the no-sugar ones, of course)
have last feeding @1.5-2hrs prior to bed; at bedtime, take in BCAA's + 1g L-carnitine (I use 2 scoops Xtend, so 7g BCAA's)

every 3rd day, add in a 7th meal prior to bed (no BCAA's/carnitine these nights):
1 large banana
6-8oz sweet potato
2 cups broccoli
1.5-2 cups oats
this will keep the thyroid regulated naturally, kicking into gear on the hi-carb nights to fuel further fat-loss, while aiding recovery/muscle retention as well.
 
hman85 said:
Thanks snag!

meal one-protein shake 5g glutamine, 25gramsworth of oatmeal,2 tbs pb

meal 2-8ounces ground beef, broccoli

meal 3-same or chicken broccoli and almonds

meal 4 - (postworkout) protein shake, 5g'glutamine, 2tb pb

meal 5- steak or beef or chicken and large salad with vinegar olive oil dressing

meal 6- Protein shake 5g glutamine, handfull of almonds


On days I work outside(mowing yards, meals 2 and 3 might be subbed for sandwich on ww bread with 8oz turkey, some mayo (made with olive oil) and mustard
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Up the fat I'd say. Get in some whole eggs. Toss in some blueberries with breakfast. I aint the diet-king like Sir Snag, but that's what I have to say. - And ditch the deli meat, bro, if that's what you mean when you say 8oz turkey. That stuff is garbage.

You shouldn't be losing too much size with that diet. Lots of protein in there. It's either all in your head, or your cardio is too intense. Your loss of strength is mostly going to be due to low glycogen. No worries.
 
GMG760 said:
do you do HIIT hman?
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For the most part, I like to run outside too just jogging. After workouts I do Hiit for 15 mins. Thanks for the ladies G! I will have to post some up in a bit. My logs have to have a abundance of hot ladies!:afro:
 
Irish Cannon said:
Up the fat I'd say. Get in some whole eggs. Toss in some blueberries with breakfast. I aint the diet-king like Sir Snag, but that's what I have to say. - And ditch the deli meat, bro, if that's what you mean when you say 8oz turkey. That stuff is garbage.

You shouldn't be losing too much size with that diet. Lots of protein in there. It's either all in your head, or your cardio is too intense. Your loss of strength is mostly going to be due to low glycogen. No worries.
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Its probably in my head cause my mom says my midsection looks alot leaner and my muscles still seem pretty well defined.
 
hman85 said:
Its probably in my head cause my mom says my midsection looks alot leaner and my muscles still seem pretty well defined.
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I can't ask my Mom that stuff. I get all those stupid freaking responses, "Oh, you look great just the way you are." - And then my Dad would call me "funny" if I asked him to tell me...Funny meaning gay.
 
Irish Cannon said:
I can't ask my Mom that stuff. I get all those stupid freaking responses, "Oh, you look great just the way you are." - And then my Dad would call me "funny" if I asked him to tell me...Funny meaning gay.
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Oh don't worry she makes fun of me at times.lol
 
Irish Cannon said:
Up the fat I'd say. Get in some whole eggs. Toss in some blueberries with breakfast. I aint the diet-king like Sir Snag, but that's what I have to say. - And ditch the deli meat, bro, if that's what you mean when you say 8oz turkey. That stuff is garbage.

You shouldn't be losing too much size with that diet. Lots of protein in there. It's either all in your head, or your cardio is too intense. Your loss of strength is mostly going to be due to low glycogen. No worries.
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Why do you say deli meat is garbage?
 
snagency said:
I think he's refering to the packaged meats, loaded with salt/preservatives.
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Isn't it all the same? Aren't the cuts from the deli just like the packaged stuff? - The only kind I ever buy is the low-sodium roast beef, and that's on a rare occasion. I wouldn't ever make it part of my diet.
 
snagency said:
all right..

if we utilized AnabolicPump, we could structure carb intake differently..
but just utilizing your diet (which is a good one btw), we could make the following tweaks:
throw in 3g fish oil w/ meals 1 & 6
add in some grapefruit for breakfast
2 Recreate + 1g L-carnitine upon rising, eat 30min later
also, 2 RC + 1g L-carnitine 30min preWO
BCAA support thruout workout
get some carbs in postWO -- some brown rice, oats, or even rice cakes (the no-sugar ones, of course)
have last feeding @1.5-2hrs prior to bed; at bedtime, take in BCAA's + 1g L-carnitine (I use 2 scoops Xtend, so 7g BCAA's)

every 3rd day, add in a 7th meal prior to bed (no BCAA's/carnitine these nights):
1 large banana
6-8oz sweet potato
2 cups broccoli
1.5-2 cups oats
this will keep the thyroid regulated naturally, kicking into gear on the hi-carb nights to fuel further fat-loss, while aiding recovery/muscle retention as well.
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I will make the adjustments i can but don't have the money to buy more supps right now. I have a birthday coming up at the end of the month so I will be getting some supps then but until that I am strapped. What is your reason for the grapefruit snag? Does it have added benefits to fat loss?
 
Irish Cannon said:
Isn't it all the same? Aren't the cuts from the deli just like the packaged stuff? - The only kind I ever buy is the low-sodium roast beef, and that's on a rare occasion. I wouldn't ever make it part of my diet.
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I will drop it if you guys think its garbage. It seems good to me though I only get low sodium breast meat but what ev.
 
hman85 said:
I will drop it if you guys think its garbage. It seems good to me though I only get low sodium breast meat but what ev.
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Meh. I guess it's no big deal. I just don't dig all the preservatives in it. I just assume buy turkey meat and cook it up. Slice it up and shred it to make a sandwich out of it...or even a salad.
 
Irish Cannon said:
Meh. I guess it's no big deal. I just don't dig all the preservatives in it. I just assume buy turkey meat and cook it up. Slice it up and shred it to make a sandwich out of it...or even a salad.
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The only reason i use it is because it is easy and I have to have something on the go at work.
 
hman85 said:
I will make the adjustments i can but don't have the money to buy more supps right now. I have a birthday coming up at the end of the month so I will be getting some supps then but until that I am strapped. What is your reason for the grapefruit snag? Does it have added benefits to fat loss?
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grapefruit is my fruit of choice for cutting.
Grapefruit is an excellent source of many nutrients and phytochemicals, able to contribute to a healthy diet. Grapefruit is a good source of vitamin C,[11][21] pectin fiber,[22] and the pink and red hues contain the beneficial antioxidant lycopene.[11][23] Studies have shown grapefruit helps lower cholesterol[11][24] and there is evidence that the seeds have high levels of antioxidant properties.[25] Grapefruit forms a core part of the "grapefruit diet", the theory being that the fruit's low glycemic index is able to help the body's metabolism burn fat.[26]
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hell, you might even want to try the beef & grapefruit diet for awhile, till those supps can be put in place.
8oz lean 93% or leaner beef + 1/2 grapefruit, 6x daily.
run it for 5-7 days, see what happens..
 
hman85 said:
I will drop it if you guys think its garbage. It seems good to me though I only get low sodium breast meat but what ev.
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I wouldn't live off it, for sure..

no doubt, the best choice is your fresh cuts of meat..cook some up and pre-pack portions for a couple days at a time.
can of tuna works and a couple eggs works well for a 'go' meal too.
 
snagency said:
grapefruit is my fruit of choice for cutting.

hell, you might even want to try the beef & grapefruit diet for awhile, till those supps can be put in place.
8oz lean 93% or leaner beef + 1/2 grapefruit, 6x daily.
run it for 5-7 days, see what happens..
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Really? even eat it at night? What is that combo supposed to do? Shed weight and water?
 
hman85 said:
Really? even eat it at night? What is that combo supposed to do? Shed weight and water?
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yep, even at night.
I don't know why it works, but it does..tremendous for shedding lbs and water both, I get rock hard after a little beef & gf run! :afro: (no homo)
 
Doesn't something in grapefruit have to do with repartitioning nutrients? For some reason I thought i remembered a supplement with grapefruit something or other in it.
 
Very interesting I will have to be trying that out. It doesn't sound like it would go well with each other though.
 
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