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Hi-Tech Pharma: Pro IGF-1 Blood Tests @ 20mcg/day

VaughnTrue said:
lol at someone thinking these tests are forged. are you guys serious right now?

If i was going to forge something, I'd have made it higher than 340%.
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No just that the low part was flag and not the high part! Relax I will base my choice of trying it on the members feedback here anyway and not on blood work! It is all good my man ;)
 
VaughnTrue said:
lol at someone thinking these tests are forged. are you guys serious right now?

If i was going to forge something, I'd have made it higher than 340%.
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Not at all man! The anecdotal reports and this both support the efficacy of this product. Well done.

As someone who has lots of lab experience I do find it odd that the second result isn't flagged though
 
it should be flagged as high given the parameters. I have no clue why it isn't. That said, I got the email from the guy, I loaded it into AM, and now we're here.
 
Killcure666 said:
Not at all man! The anecdotal reports and this both support the efficacy of this product. Well done.

As someone who has lots of lab experience I do find it odd that the second result isn't flagged though
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Good point..we may like these hormones "high" but a technician/doctor will usually bring things like this to our attention.
 
Like I mentioned in my log, I recognized muscle fullness and was positive it was being linked to the IGF. Looks like the blood work is confirming the elevated levels. Thanks for posting this.
 
VaughnTrue said:
lol at someone thinking these tests are forged. are you guys serious right now?

If i was going to forge something, I'd have made it higher than 340%.
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Let people be skeptical..there are many reasons why people are skeptical at this point.
Just few things:

1. First oral bioavailable IGF1
2. Shooting IGF1 levels above the normal range after just 2 weeks at just 20mcg
3. Bloodwork posted by a rep

I am not saying this product does not work or bloodwork is fake. Not at all.

This week I am going to run a bloodwork.
Taking 20mcg 2 hours prior the bloodwork.
Day after the bloodwork I will increase from 40mcg to 60mcg. (1 dose 2 hours prior workout, 1 dose right after workout and last dose prior bed). Waiting 2-4 weeks and take new bloodwork.
 
Danes said:
Let people be skeptical..there are many reasons why people are skeptical at this point.
Just few things:

1. First oral bioavailable IGF1
2. Shooting IGF1 levels above the normal range after just 2 weeks at just 20mcg
3. Bloodwork posted by a rep

I am not saying this product does not work or bloodwork is fake. Not at all.

This week I am going to run a bloodwork.
Taking 20mcg 2 hours prior the bloodwork.
Day after the bloodwork I will increase from 40mcg to 60mcg. (1 dose 2 hours prior workout, 1 dose right after workout and last dose prior bed). Waiting 2-4 weeks and take new bloodwork.
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i completely understand. its not that i don't recognize the skepticism, i just dont want anyone thinking I'd pull a fast one like that (not that anyone suggested such a thing)
 
Danes said:
Sounds good but I would run IGF1 solo. That way you know how it works for you :) i am not using any other supps than pro IGF1 and that is the best way to find out if the product does anything for me :)
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No protein supps? Just food and this igf1 product ?
 
What do you guys think about pro IGF-1 on an LGD cycle? Would I see increased gains or would it be better to save it for PCT
 
Danes said:
Let people be skeptical..there are many reasons why people are skeptical at this point.
Just few things:

1. First oral bioavailable IGF1
2. Shooting IGF1 levels above the normal range after just 2 weeks at just 20mcg
3. Bloodwork posted by a rep

I am not saying this product does not work or bloodwork is fake. Not at all.

This week I am going to run a bloodwork.
Taking 20mcg 2 hours prior the bloodwork.
Day after the bloodwork I will increase from 40mcg to 60mcg. (1 dose 2 hours prior workout, 1 dose right after workout and last dose prior bed). Waiting 2-4 weeks and take new bloodwork.
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Why would you take any dose before initial bloodwork?
 
user567 said:
Why would you take any dose before initial bloodwork?
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Vaughn wrote:
"From the information I've received from Jared Wheat directly, he claims that blood levels peak 120-150 minutes post dose, so I would be interested in seeing these results when tested within that window."
 
I personally have been taking my first dosage about 60 minutes pre-workout (I get up and then go lift so I can do a full 90 minutes) and then I take my second dosage (I'm using 10 caps per day) at about 7 PM.

I personally have not tried dosing Post Workout yet. I'm not going to switch it up on this run. But when I run it again later down the line I'll try post workout.





-Spaz
 
Big_Spaz said:
I personally have been taking my first dosage about 60 minutes pre-workout (I get up and then go lift so I can do a full 90 minutes) and then I take my second dosage (I'm using 10 caps per day) at about 7 PM.

I personally have not tried dosing Post Workout yet. I'm not going to switch it up on this run. But when I run it again later down the line I'll try post workout.





-Spaz
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Are you also taking it on days that you don't workout?
 
Danes hit me up and said he was going to send me a pic of his intense pump post chest day...looking pretty damn swole in this shirt!


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VaughnTrue said:
Danes hit me up and said he was going to send me a pic of his intense pump post chest day...looking pretty damn swole in this shirt!


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Honestly it was sick chest workout..pump in whole upper body! Remember, I am 100% natural. No AAS,No SARMs, Designer Steroids etc..just natty products (herbs,plants,aminos etc) and actually have low T levels due to many years of Severe sleep apnea (never been overweight either)
 
Danes said:
Vaughn wrote:
"From the information I've received from Jared Wheat directly, he claims that blood levels peak 120-150 minutes post dose, so I would be interested in seeing these results when tested within that window."
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But this is your base first reading, you want you natural body reading. Not your first dose reading.
 
user567 said:
But this is your base first reading, you want you natural body reading. Not your first dose reading.
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The problem is I am into my 2nd week on it.
But it should be difference from my first and second bloodwork (if the product works).
 
brundel said:
This IS def interesting. Was highly doubtful this would work. But once in a while someone gets some wood on the ball. A giant company like hi-tech can spend the dollar to pull things like this off so....if someone was gonna do it they would be most likely.
Looking forward to seeing third part labs and also igf1bp-3 labs.
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I though that from a previous post, i will be running some of this for 50 days at the recommended 5 tabs per day and see how it has an impact on my body composition and training.
 
VaughnTrue

When i start up on this product when is best, 90-150 mins pre workout or directly post workout.

Which would you say is better for increase in lean muscle mass.

What's the benefits of pre and post workout dosing.
 
Just curious how thos compares to injectable IGF-1? Does 20 mcg of injectable deliver the same IGF blood test results or less?

Also, I may have missed it, but was this used every day, to include non workout days (if any)?
 
halljo said:
Just curious how thos compares to injectable IGF-1? Does 20 mcg of injectable deliver the same IGF blood test results or less?

Also, I may have missed it, but was this used every day, to include non workout days (if any)?
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this... (damn phone)
 
VaughnTrue said:
this was tested on a non-workout day. I should have included that in my post.

I worked directly with this guy to eliminate as many variables as possible. I legit wanted to make sure there was NO WAY this could be attributed to anything but the Pro IGF-1
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Damn, that is very impressive
 
Well..started my bottle today..
 
How long can this be run for before taking a break? How long should said break be? Is PCT needed for this and if so what would be the best option?
 
I'm glad so many people are jumping on board after 1 blokes bloods lol

Works out good for me, can't wait to see everyones results before considering to drop $100. Please update us all :)
 
TrainerTone said:
How long can this be run for before taking a break? How long should said break be? Is PCT needed for this and if so what would be the best option?
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This does not effect test so I would see no reason to need a PCT. I would run a full bottle and then take a few weeks off IMO
 
I look forward to seeing further confirmation from other members as well. I must say though, things are looking more than promising! The most impressive thing for me is that a Hi-Tech product got some attention and praise from Brundel. Who would have ever thought that would happen?!
 
Following. This looks very interesting! Thinking about throwing this in with Test E for a 12 week cycle when it's time to bulk up again. Should deliver sick gains as long as diet, training, and rest are on point of course.
 
alvin1 said:
I taught that the anti aging benefit where more HGH than IGF-1 related?
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I'm with ya, seems that when I research HGH vs IGF-1, they both seem to have valuable specific benefits..

HGH: overall body rejuvenation, smoother skin, and faster hair growth to name a few

IGF-1: has far greater impact on cell proliferation (muscle building) itself

Seems as though MK-677 and Pro IGF-1 would be a winning stack to me!
 
Ricky10 said:
I'm with ya, seems that when I research HGH vs IGF-1, they both seem to have valuable specific benefits..

HGH: overall body rejuvenation, smoother skin, and faster hair growth to name a few

IGF-1: has far greater impact on cell proliferation (muscle building) itself

Seems as though MK-677 and Pro IGF-1 would be a winning stack to me!
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Yes but IGF1 also reverses aging and even heals damaged brain cells. /neuroprotective ++
 
Silly me just realized that this contains the exact same amount of IGF-1 per bottle you typically see in a bottle from RC pep suppliers. So you are getting the same amount of IGF-1 for about the same price. A few more blood works showing improvements to guarantee absorption and I will be sold and using this for sure.
 
Pretty cool lab report. Skepticism shouldn't be taken personally - unfortunately, various 'bad actors' in the industry throughout the years, have made it necessary. Danes' bloodwork will be nice. While that value was HIGH for that lab (unflagged), 304 used to be high-normal range for twenty-somethings (I wonder if the range changes with age for Labcorp? They have also recently lowered some values - Testosterone is now in the 200's - 900's, down from 340-1197).

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Danes - I wish you were just running the label dose. Oh, and #genetics much? LOL! Low T and you look like that!

Promising so far - you should contact Adel at Suppversity.
 
jameschoi said:
So this supp raises the IGF-1 level by 340% ?
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correct, the first confirmed blood test with this product shows levels increasing 340%

paul56778 said:
VaughnTrue

When i start up on this product when is best, 90-150 mins pre workout or directly post workout.

Which would you say is better for increase in lean muscle mass.

What's the benefits of pre and post workout dosing.
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Due to it being so new, I don't know what is BEST right now. You can try it 90-150 mins pre-wo, ad well as directly post workout.

I personally think post would be better for LBM, but again I can't verify that...yet.



halljo said:
Just curious how thos compares to injectable IGF-1? Does 20 mcg of injectable deliver the same IGF blood test results or less?

Also, I may have missed it, but was this used every day, to include non workout days (if any)?
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I have been unable to find blood tests from injectable IGF-1 at this time. maybe someone else can find some for me!

TrainerTone said:
How long can this be run for before taking a break? How long should said break be? Is PCT needed for this and if so what would be the best option?
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50 day cycles, take 2-4 weeks off. No pct needed

BCseacow83 said:
Silly me just realized that this contains the exact same amount of IGF-1 per bottle you typically see in a bottle from RC pep suppliers. So you are getting the same amount of IGF-1 for about the same price. A few more blood works showing improvements to guarantee absorption and I will be sold and using this for sure.
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bingo bango bongo. Jared knows EXACTLY what he's doing here :)
 
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The_Old_Guy said:
Pretty cool lab report. Skepticism shouldn't be taken personally - unfortunately, various 'bad actors' in the industry throughout the years, have made it necessary. Danes' bloodwork will be nice. While that value was HIGH for that lab (unflagged), 304 used to be high-normal range for twenty-somethings (I wonder if the range changes with age for Labcorp? They have also recently lowered some values - Testosterone is now in the 200's - 900's, down from 340-1197).

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Danes - I wish you were just running the label dose. Oh, and #genetics much? LOL! Low T and you look like that!

Promising so far - you should contact Adel at Suppversity.
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I have always been thin like skeletor. But at age of 19 i began to lift weights. Now I am 34 and I am far from strong. :)
I guess I would be even bigger if I didnt had severe sleep apnea many years (without knowing it) and low T. Just last years I have been serious with eating like a bull and working out hard. So it seems T levels are not all that anyway when I have friends who use steroids / testosterone and they are smaller than me :D
 
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