help me quit smokeing

i dont think it is an addiction to cigarettes as much as it is an addiction to being high.

also boredom is what leads to smoking as well. when im at work i dont think about smoking but when im waiting 7 or 8 hours to go to work i find myself wanting to smoke ( i wake up hella early to go to the gym , then dont have work sometimes till 5pm)


that being said, choose another high, or keep yourself busy.
 
mcssassin said:
another day over and im still smoke free. dont know if it was withdrawls or if im gettin sick but i was nautious all nite and even threw up a few times this morn. smokin never even crossed my mind so i figure it was a touch of the flu
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nausea can be a side effect
 
Keep it up man. Weekend is here do not allow yourself to be idle it will probably be harder this weeknd due to down time and not being as inconvenient to smoke as it is when at work. As soontobbeast said it is dangerous to get bored when trying to quit. Keep yourself busy this weekend if possible.

mcssassin said:
still smoke free fellas
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Im in the same boat myself...pack a day and im really very very close to cold turkeying this ****...it does nothing but kill you and slow down your gains.. one pack of ciggs cost about as much as 2 gallons of milk
 
gidemon said:
Im in the same boat myself...pack a day and im really very very close to cold turkeying this ****...it does nothing but kill you and slow down your gains.. one pack of ciggs cost about as much as 2 gallons of milk
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Man up and quit my brutha! You look like you could wrestle down a pissed off grizzly! Surely you can beat a 4 inch stick made of chopped leaves!!!!!
 
i still am on track no smoking and i dont even think about them. and its not gonna effect me being the weekend. my job closed up and went to mexico a while back so everyday is a weekend....I wonder tho if me not gettin crazy withdrawls or even the urge to smoke is related to the fact im on a h-drol and tren cycle? ive tried to quit before and couldnt take the urge to smoke.this time it was likie my body didnt even notice.
 
Yes McSsassin are you still free and clear or did you start poluting them lungs back up. Hopefully just busy and not somewhere avoiding the board feeling guilty.
 
If you really want to quit smoking, you have want to quit. I smoked for 8 years and quiting smoking is in the top three hardest things I have ever done. It's all habitual ... you have to change subtle things like dont smoke in places you would normally smoke for example: Dont smoke in your car, house, or near you computer. Make youself smoke in different places.
Another thing with smoking being habitual, your brain likes it and your brain doesnt forget. It's a learn habit like from the way you hold the cigarette to the way smoke it. It's like riding a bike you dont forget how to do it and brain loves it.
I also recommend the patch, try it in different places like chest or upper arms etc. Good luck quitting!
 
yea im still smoke free fellas thanks for the support. no im not avoiding the board i have comcast cable internet so it doesn't work sometimes for pretty much no reason just like my house phone there both comcraptic once or twice a month a least they just stop working for 12 to 24 hrs they both been off all day and my phone still don't work. but like i said im still smoke free!
 
mcssassin said:
yea im still smoke free fellas thanks for the support. no im not avoiding the board i have comcast cable internet so it doesn't work sometimes for pretty much no reason just like my house phone there both comcraptic once or twice a month a least they just stop working for 12 to 24 hrs they both been off all day and my phone still don't work. but like i said im still smoke free!
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good sh1t mcssassin - you should be proud of yourself :thumbsup:
 
great job. any time you have the urge, look up warning labels on canadian cigarettes. that was what did it for me. that and repeated trips to the sauna/hot tub - can't smoke when you're wet :)

warning labels to follow..... you can click the top bar to read the fine print :)

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mcssassin said:
yea im still smoke free fellas thanks for the support. no im not avoiding the board i have comcast cable internet so it doesn't work sometimes for pretty much no reason just like my house phone there both comcraptic once or twice a month a least they just stop working for 12 to 24 hrs they both been off all day and my phone still don't work. but like i said im still smoke free!
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Man, you are able to stay smoke free while having to rely on comcast! YOu truly are determined to do it. I have been ridiculously happy with my AT&T U-Verse, didn't really lose speed like they say. Keep it up man it is just about avoiding falling into habits now. Hey since this thread has everyones attention why don't you kind of mention if you are noticing things come back like sense of smell and when you start coughing up the old tar that has been in your lungs. Kind of like a log for people who are quitting smoking to look at. Just an idea.
 
suncloud said:
great job. any time you have the urge, look up warning labels on canadian cigarettes. that was what did it for me. that and repeated trips to the sauna/hot tub - can't smoke when you're wet :)

warning labels to follow..... you can click the top bar to read the fine print :)

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Don't give the boy a challenge lol.. Next thing you know he's gonna be neck deep in a bubble bath puffin on a newport.

jokin bud, you know i got faith in you
 
Hey guys. I just wanted to share with you what has helped me quit my 21 year habit, drug-free. It's actually an app that I bought for my iPhone. I've tried patches, pills and just about everything else and felt doomed to be a smoker for the rest of my life. Chantix seemed like it was working until I couldn't shake a depression. I read that the drug could be responsible for that so I ceased use and, as you could guess, the cravings came right back.
The app that I used is a combination of hypnotism, binaural beats and subliminal messages. So far, it has been 3 months and it was so simple and easy. I listened to the main session the first day and then a booster session the next day and that was it!!!! It is amazingly effective! This is the longest I have ever been smoke free and I'm confident that I'LL NEVER SMOKE AGAIN. While I bought the app for my phone you can buy the CD (He also has one for weight loss) directly from his site. I probably can't link you to it here but if you google Max Kirsten, you should get all the info you need. I feel so lucky to have found this system and I feel it's my duty to share this with you. Please tell everyone you know that smokes about it. It's THAT good. BTW, I don't know if I have to say this but I DO NOT work for this guy or his site and I make no money off the sale or promotion of it. Good luck and cheers to a smoke free you!!!
 
yup another day still no smokeing i dont even think about it as an option. a couple days ago food started tasting better. my appetite is way up. been taking walks to help with breathing and my breathing is a little better. no change in my sense of smell but i think im gettin a sinus and maybe a respitory infection (yellow mucus when i blow my nose + sore gland on my neck) not coughing anything up yet but do have to clear my throat alot more often than before but no coughing fits as of yet. i would like to add ive messed around with the idea of quitting for quit a while like taper down to a few a day and then not follow thru tellin myself constantly how bad it was for me. kinda like tryin to give myself a complex about smoking. so i think that mental prep helped a lot...ps comcast sucks phone still dont work internet just came back on again
 
the phlegm is your lungs trying to clear themselves. dose a bit more vitamin C to avoid any illnesses, but the coughing just comes with quitting. in a few more weeks it will go away, and your lung capacity will improve by a ridiculous amount.
 
ill up the vit c a little. i tell ya sun cloud more lung capacity is what i want the most! i live on the third floor and somtimes id be outta breath just walking up to my apartment. can u say pathetic! it does feel like my chest wants to puff up more all the time. like my chest cavity i getting bigger but it leaves like a weird ache in my upper chest but on the inside if that makes sense
 
yep. that's part of your lungs that used to be full of tar clearing up. the lung part burns a bit because its not used to oxygen, and the cough is trying to get the tar out. it is very important to cough the phlegm out, and not just swallow it - your stomach doesn't want to digest tar...
 
Exactly as cloud said. Your cilia are starting to move again which starts to bring up the mucous as the begin to move more and more they will eventualy being moving enough to really get the tar out and you will see the mucous with tar in it just thick black gooey streaks. Like he said don't swallow that crap if you can avoid it. Drink lots of fluids too, it helps the process along.
 
if smoking makes you happy, keep smoking.


why do you need to have great lungs for when you're 70?

edit: and as far as lung cancer goes, or whatever, everyone dies at some point. so does it really matter
 
soontobbeast said:
if smoking makes you happy, keep smoking.


why do you need to have great lungs for when you're 70?

edit: and as far as lung cancer goes, or whatever, everyone dies at some point. so does it really matter
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i remember that mind set that's what started me smoking in the first place. i bet your between 16 and 21. i used to think like that. hell me and my friends vowed we wouldn't make it to 30.... well guess what im 30 now got a family and startin to think a little more about my actions and my long term health. you will see one day all kinda weird thoughts are gonna hit you in the face like a brick! like not being invincable. all those bad habits start to catch up to ya. you feel like **** all the time. you got kids(weather you planned it or not) that look up to you and depend on you.....:paranoid: you start tellin storys like this one lol!
 
close. im 23.

also, i guess you are right. if you have a family you need to look out for them.

i dont have plans to have a family though so its whatever.
 
soontobbeast said:
if smoking makes you happy, keep smoking.


why do you need to have great lungs for when you're 70?

edit: and as far as lung cancer goes, or whatever, everyone dies at some point. so does it really matter
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I still follow the rules of risk and return, and the risk far outweighs the return on the smoking investment. Yeah as far as cancer goes you can get it without smoking however the carcenogens inhaled from cigarettes greatly increase the likelyhood and or severity of it occuring and almost immenent if you have a family history of cancer.

As far as great lungs when you are 70, I don't know about you but I plan to be kicking azz at 70. Even if not, I don't want to breathe from an oxygen mask due to low lung capacity. I don't want to burden my children having to live in their home, or drag an oxygen tank with me to the family picnic.

All that being said I am all for dangerous things like skydiving, mountain climbing, MMA fighting, motorcycling and the like but the total lack of any positive characteristic of smoking deters me from returning to smoking. Plus it obviously doesn't make him happy. Addictions don't make you happy they make you altered but when there not in the picture unaltered reality is still there waiting.
 
happiness is a temporary state of mind.

most people stay happy temporarily - whether from a joke,drugs, something satisfactory happens like they make gains at the gym, etc then the happiness goes away. people also become unhappy or 'altered' in a negative way when something they dont like occurs. just like when the unhappiness fades,( you get over it) reality sets back in, the same thing occurs within positive alterations as well.

so our minds are always being altered by externalities ( both good and bad) that happen in everyday life.

drugs just happen to be a way that you can become altered without the use of externalities.
 
drugs are externalities, so how can they be something that alters you without the use of externalities?
anyway getting back on topic good job so far mcsassin, i quit smoking 3 1/2 weeks ago and it just gets better and better as time goes on. after the first 3-4 days the cravings went away completely
 
jonnyxbox22 said:
drugs are externalities, so how can they be something that alters you without the use of externalities?
anyway getting back on topic good job so far mcsassin, i quit smoking 3 1/2 weeks ago and it just gets better and better as time goes on. after the first 3-4 days the cravings went away completely
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Congrats! Great job, my urges were mostly over after the 3-4 day mark as well. You only have to be carefull when resolution fades. An urge really didn't show back up with me until 6 months or so later while doing something I normally used to do. Because I hadn't spent so much time and effort on not smoking it wasn't in the forefront of my mind not to do it. I came very close before catching myself then I started noticing urges here and there but as long as you don't let the ambush urges to get you it will be ok. I remember the time I failed quitting before it was after a long period of not smoking too. Had an ambush urge while I was drinking with some friends a good 9 months after I quit. In my mind I rationalized I could handle the one. And I did then two weeks later I rationalied to myself I did that one fine I could handle another, then next weekend I got a pack that weould last me several weekends or so I thought... but I was at a pack a day again inside of 2 months. Didn't stop for years after that until it made my baby's momma sick during pregnancy, and that time it was for good because I knew to expect the ambush urges and that I couldn't have one here and there like some people, I was not a social smoker but addicted to smoking.
 
jonnyxbox22 said:
drugs are externalities, so how can they be something that alters you without the use of externalities?
anyway getting back on topic good job so far mcsassin, i quit smoking 3 1/2 weeks ago and it just gets better and better as time goes on. after the first 3-4 days the cravings went away completely
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you misunderstood.

the meaning behind my saying that drugs alter you without the use of externalities, was that you need not have anything good or bad happen for your mood to change.

i thought that was blatantly obvious, but i guess not.
 
No right or wrong in this just we are waxing philosophical...

I think of happiness as a state of mind not an emotion. A generally happy person still has ups and downs but that doesn't change if they are generally happy. Like being high isn't being happy, it is a false sense of happiness. I am DEFINITELY not saying it does not feel good, that would be ridiculous of me to insinuate. The entire reason they are sought out is the unrealistic and comforting feelings of pleasure they produce. When one is not happy with the current state of things they tend to seek out a false sense of happiness, or comfort. Be that food, a cigarette, or or a blunt... I am also in no way judging anyone for doing any of those things. I am both impulsive and compulsive in nature so I have had my hands in tons of cookie jars.

To give a point, in this case I am sure that he is happy he quit smoking and even if he got a temporary urge that made him miss it temporarily it would not change the fact he is happy he quit. I am generally happy but I can get a twist in britches just like anyone else. When I do I want a beer or a shot of whiskey or a zanax even...

Just 1 more philosophical statement:
Confuscious say.... Man with hole in pocket feel coc ky all day!
 
lol well im still not smoking and mostly happy till this morning when i seen i missed out on all kinds of deals. everything was out of stock by 9:30 this morning! i think the sale was announced at like 11:00 last nite. i think everyone may be jumping the gun here i cant see a ban happening overnite of course thats just my opinion. any way i still havent started the coughing fits that i been told our coming sooner or later. and yes i am happy i quit!!!
 
mcssassin said:
lol well im still not smoking and mostly happy till this morning when i seen i missed out on all kinds of deals. everything was out of stock by 9:30 this morning! i think the sale was announced at like 11:00 last nite. i think everyone may be jumping the gun here i cant see a ban happening overnite of course thats just my opinion. any way i still havent started the coughing fits that i been told our coming sooner or later. and yes i am happy i quit!!!
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Okay now I am clueless of course. What deals and what is being banned this time.
 
all the prohormones r sold out. there r threads about the f.d.a tryin to shut down american cellular labs and more than lilkly they will come after all the other clones soon. i think it all started after a news peice on high schoolrs using extreme tren they got busted then said they didnt know what it was and the place that sold it to them said it was vitamins. they have clones of phera epi halo bold m1t 1t and some others. they pulled all those off there site a couple days ago after fda intent letters. they also made public statements to not use certain supps and that they were goin after other supp companys to stop them from selling steroids and calling them supps
 
I am very carefull not to use PH's but I was looking at it and looks like it is way more than just PH's they are going after any and all supps with the way it is written. But on a good note they are keeping smoking legal because it has not negative effects on health.... :sigh1:
 
cigs are main stream and easy to tax heavily. if supps were too the goverment wouldnt have a problem as long as they got thier cut. i heard the fda was trying to make certain vitamins classified as drugs so they could control costs for people to use them. and if there considered drugs u cant buy em just anywhere any more. can u imagine if vitamin c,e,d,b became controlled by drug companys and the goverment a bottle of b complex would be like 200 bucks
 
soontobbeast said:
so what you are saying is that i need to stock up on rpn havoc right now
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yea i had to go to another on line store to get mine i found methyl e for 17 bucks so i bought 4 never used it or heard about it its an epi clone if its junk im gonna be pissed i also have a p plex and m drol ive had them for a while but im kinda scared to use them. the p plex stacked with the methyl e might be a good run
 
First off, look at recent photos of Patrick Swayzee his condition very well may be yours. Now, realize that smoking became a habit and then an addiction. You must make a habit of not smoking while kicking the addiction. It will take time,which varies from individual. Just know that the cravings will be there and you must overcome them in order to get past the addiction. I did it and others have done it.

You are addicted to one of the hardest habits to kick (that's the way the tobacco industry wants it), also know that tobacco related deaths in the U.S. alone are about 450,000 each year. Every time you light up, your taking a chance of triggering a cell(s) to mutate and cause a cancer. Some get cancer early and some late.

Try nicotine patches, gum or other methods to quit. Most states have a free tobacco quit line with information and in some cases no charge for the nicotine replacement therapy.

Good luck.
 
jluke said:
If you really want to quit smoking, you have want to quit. I smoked for 8 years and quiting smoking is in the top three hardest things I have ever done. It's all habitual ... you have to change subtle things like dont smoke in places you would normally smoke for example: Dont smoke in your car, house, or near you computer. Make youself smoke in different places.
Another thing with smoking being habitual, your brain likes it and your brain doesnt forget. It's a learn habit like from the way you hold the cigarette to the way smoke it. It's like riding a bike you dont forget how to do it and brain loves it.
I also recommend the patch, try it in different places like chest or upper arms etc. Good luck quitting!
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Hi Mang, I don't think the patch is such a great idea. The main thing is dump the nicotine not the oral fixation. Everyone I know, including myself, that quit did so cold turkey. You can have a rough 2-4 days or you can drag it out a month or more.
 
Ultimately cold turkey is best, and you will have withdrawls so take care of your body to minimize the effect with supplements, a safe zone etc... Some people need a crutch unfortunately.. Sort of reminds me of people who are sober from drugs but still drink alcohol. They call it "Harm Reduction" whoever came up with that term and philosophy must have been an active addict himself\herself.
MK9
 
im an exsmoker and the only thing that works is will power. i smoked for 15yrs and quit last year. even now its a day to day struggle with the addiction. the only thing i have is the will power to not smoke.
 
roids1 said:
First of all, learn to spell.

Now, to quit smoking. The first step is to understand that there is no cure, no magic pill, no herb, no support group that can quit for you. You are on your own. Like drinking or other drugs, addiction is not a disease. It is a series of bad decisions that you make on a daily basis against your better judgement.

The only way to quit is to make a firm committment to permanent abstinence and hold yourself accountable. It's not easy, but there's no other way. The hard part is sticking to the committment.

That being said. If you're smoking a pack a week, you may not need to worry about it. If you're smoking a pack a day, you have a problem.
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Thats where you're wrong. Addiction is a disease. The disease is developed and like all diseases it must be treated or the condition will worsen. The choices of course lead you to this, but it's still a disease. When an addict has problems, they use. The addiction becomes the way out to fill in the missing gap in their life
 
mybeefstrong said:
im an exsmoker and the only thing that works is will power. i smoked for 15yrs and quit last year. even now its a day to day struggle with the addiction. the only thing i have is the will power to not smoke.
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This is so true. I could pick up one today and light it up. I don't think it ever leaves you completely. I have the willpower now to "just say no". I also don't crave 'em or anything like that. Even someone smoking around me doesn't bother me. Except the smell, etc that I never noticed because it was I who smoked.
 
just an update im still smoke free. i dont know why but last nite i kept haveing dreams and i was smoking in them it seemed very real i could smell ,taste and feel the inhale as i smoked them in my dreams. weird huh it was relentless prob had like 5 of those dreams. on another note i still havent got to the coughing fits yet. i hope the coughing fits start soon i want my lung function back......just a question for u guys that quit already do you think if i started a sorry attempt at jogging little by little every day that it would help clear my lungs out? i realize that im not gonna do much at first as far as acutly jogging. but would it help or would it just stress my lungs out when they need to heal and be counter productive?
 
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