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Havoc dosages for Dsade

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Dsade,

Tried to PM you but your inbox is full!!

Has anyone tried a higher dose of Havoc yet? Somewhere between the 70-100 mg/day mark? Just curious:thumbsup:
 
grexx said:
Dsade,

Tried to PM you but your inbox is full!!

Has anyone tried a higher dose of Havoc yet? Somewhere between the 70-100 mg/day mark? Just curious:thumbsup:
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whoa 100mg.. I think it really depends on the bodyweight, there has to be a point where such a high dose dose not have such positive effects as you would expect.
 
yeah, I think that would be pushing it a little bit too high and would do nothing but give your liver more hell that it deserves. every prohormone converts in the body via anenzymatic reaction to some active target hormone. the body has only a limited amount of enzymes to convert a single type of PH to an active form of a hormone. your body can only use what it can actually convert so a lot of those 100 mg would go to waste and just tax your liver.
 
I got to 40mg for a few days and the back pumps sucked ass. I dropped it back down to 30mg and I was fine and I'm about 270. Just my .02
 
I didn't have any side effects or problems running it at 40mg for 2+ weeks. My bw is about 210 right now
 
Could it be people are more sensative to say 40mg and others are not? Could it mean it works better for others or the same..I got good results off 40mg and I really wanted to try 50mg
 
2fresh said:
Could it be people are more sensative to say 40mg and others are not? Could it mean it works better for others or the same..I got good results off 40mg and I really wanted to try 50mg
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Could be. 30mg seemed like it was plenty for me. At 40mg it was tough to move around without getting back pumps. Plus I didn't use any taurine either. Taurine will be included with all future PH cycles I do.
 
grexx said:
Dsade,

Tried to PM you but your inbox is full!!

Has anyone tried a higher dose of Havoc yet? Somewhere between the 70-100 mg/day mark? Just curious:thumbsup:
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Sorry for missing this. If you know the nature of my personality and curiosity, you can bet that "someone" has gone with insanely high dosages.

This will have to be taken private, due to my position with the company and the fact that soime people will misinterpret this as "recommendation".
 
2fresh said:
Could it be people are more sensative to say 40mg and others are not? Could it mean it works better for others or the same..I got good results off 40mg and I really wanted to try 50mg
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Hmm...thats a good point, I ran 40 for 3 weeks, and felt great, no back pumps, no real sides other than some aggression, strength was up, weight was up, lost some fat, diet was poor, drank tons of water, definitely gonna run it again, and wouldnt start with less than 40 ed.
 
Edited for Safety.
 
Jayhawkk said:
Dsade, have about 12 bottles sitting in your closet? :)
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I thought you brought them with you when you came out of the closet?
 
Jayhawkk said:
I was so excited I left them behind.
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

I am actually on havoc right now as we speak and have upped it to 50mgs with no problem so far. I have a whole extra bottle outside of the one i just opened so maybe ill play with this a weeeee little bit :-D..
 
I loved the stuff 100% but my budget read:wife only allows me to get so much, so often. I'll be taking a break after this Jungle Warfare blood test run and then running Havoc again.
 
Sweet, I may get this up to 60mg if I am not having problems....obviously there is a balance in terms of gains vs sides but I'll judge that as I go.
 
Travis said:
Sweet, I may get this up to 60mg if I am not having problems....obviously there is a balance in terms of gains vs sides but I'll judge that as I go.
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There's also a limit of other factors in the equation. IMO there's no point in pushing the envelope on higher dosages if you're getting good results with the lower ones. It is much more feasible to just eat more food! Steak will put mass on you in a way steroids only dream they could.
 
thesinner said:
There's also a limit of other factors in the equation. IMO there's no point in pushing the envelope on higher dosages if you're getting good results with the lower ones. It is much more feasible to just eat more food! Steak will put mass on you in a way steroids only dream they could.
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Agree 100%. Its always hard to tell. I wonder if I could run it at 20mg for 4 weeks and get the same results. Often you get impatient b/c your not "feeling" anything right away so your first idea is to just raise the dosage....which may not always be necessary. But then say you only run it at 20mgs and dont gain much then you have to start pct and time off just to wait to run another cycle. Bit of a catch 22...im rambling...
 
Travis said:
Agree 100%. Its always hard to tell. I wonder if I could run it at 20mg for 4 weeks and get the same results. Often you get impatient b/c your not "feeling" anything right away so your first idea is to just raise the dosage....which may not always be necessary. But then say you only run it at 20mgs and dont gain much then you have to start post cycle therapy and time off just to wait to run another cycle. Bit of a catch 22...im rambling...
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It's best to start (IMO) with a medium-sized dose. I like to start low when running a completely new compound. However, there's no point (IMO) in trying to push it too far: you're just run the risk of buring out your receptors (making it harder to gain in future cycles) just to try and gain an extra 1/2 pound.
 
thesinner said:
There's also a limit of other factors in the equation. IMO there's no point in pushing the envelope on higher dosages if you're getting good results with the lower ones. It is much more feasible to just eat more food! Steak will put mass on you in a way steroids only dream they could.
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This is entirely the point, and my posts here should be considered academic only.

I don't think I will post again in this thread, since it seems to be being taken exactly as I did NOT want it to.
 
dsade said:
This is entirely the point, and my posts here should be considered academic only.

I don't think I will post again in this thread, since it seems to be being taken exactly as I did NOT want it to.
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Yeah, the last thing ANYONE needs is to hear of someone running their first ever cycle with a daily dose of 120mg of Havoc. That just opens doors wide open for health problems, lawsuits, and not-so-clever puns involving "Wreaked Havoc"

So (on a serious note) if you're reading this thread in thoughts of taking Havoc, please, DON'T BE STUPID!
 
I deleted my post above. Any mature, scientific questions should be directed to me via email at [email protected].
 
thesinner said:
Preferably Amputee women on women action, with stump-penetration.
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Stump-to-Rump!!!!!!!!!

Nothing like some hardcore STR to get me revving.
 
you guys are hilarious:icon_lol:

Yes, this topic was not taken as I orginally intended it to be. Just curious for the compound, not the whole receptor safety issue
 
grexx, I've taken it upward of 50mgs for a week and 60mgs for a day. I'd be more then happy to share with you. Shoot me a PM if you want.
 
Next time around Im deff thinking about running it 40/40/50/60 depending on how the end of the 2nd week feels..

Note I ran Havoc at the end of my cycle and I didn't have ANY side effects. Just benefits..

I've ran Superdrol twice before and handled 30mgs for over 2 weeks without any problems just mild lathergy/pumps.

I really wonder how these orals are effected by how good someones digestion system is...For me it seems wierd cause I take Digestive enzymes/Probiotics blahh blahhh almost every day and still don't notice a diff till get off something. If there is a diff it doesnt seem to be very great..

Next time I'll try being more aware and write down some stats
 
2fresh said:
Next time around Im deff thinking about running it 40/40/50/60 depending on how the end of the 2nd week feels..

Note I ran Havoc at the end of my cycle and I didn't have ANY side effects. Just benefits..

I've ran Superdrol twice before and handled 30mgs for over 2 weeks without any problems just mild lathergy/pumps.

I really wonder how these orals are effected by how good someones digestion system is...For me it seems wierd cause I take Digestive enzymes/Probiotics blahh blahhh almost every day and still don't notice a diff till get off something. If there is a diff it doesnt seem to be very great..

Next time I'll try being more aware and write down some stats
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Were you taking with food or an on an empty stomach?
 
Well as far as side effects that were physically noticable..Felt pretty good overall when I was on Havoc..

I was taken them on a empty stomach with Omegas and then ate in a less then an hour.
 
There's a thread on here about maximizing Havoc absorption. If I get a minute I'll try and post a link.
 
grexx said:
Dsade,

Tried to PM you but your inbox is full!!

Has anyone tried a higher dose of Havoc yet? Somewhere between the 70-100 mg/day mark? Just curious:thumbsup:
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I finished at 50mgs a day for 10 days. I felt NO adverse effects after two bottles. I need to get bloodwork done. I felt* like I could have taken it to 60-70mgs without too much of a stretch at 210lbs 12.1% bf.

My only concern would have been the strength increases with drier joints/ ligaments.
 
Jayhawkk said:
I loved the stuff 100% but my budget read:wife only allows me to get so much, so often. I'll be taking a break after this Jungle Warfare blood test run and then running Havoc again.
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HAH! you sound like me. I'd like to get more Havoc but my budget(Wife) prevents it..
 
My PM box is slightly clear now.
 
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