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Havoc & D-Bol Cycle day1

angel77

angel77

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Havoc & MMV2 Cycle W/ PICTURES

Well, today was day one and I'm starting off with just the Havoc @ 30mg and starting 20mg of D-Bol to start weeks 2-4. Extremely clean diet. I'll try and update this daily. I will be on Anabolic Innovations Cycle Support tomorrow instead of the individual Milk Thistle and Saw Palmetto.
Here was my day...
Meal#1 6:15 am
2 whole eggs + 4 egg whites
3/4 cup dry -Old Fashion Oats cooked w/ 1 tbs. Milled Flax Seed & 1/2 tbs. brown sugar
6 oz. Lean Ground Beef with Cumin.

followed by
2000 mg milk thistle
1800 mg saw palmetto
2400 mg fish oil
100mg dhea
10mg Havoc

Meal#2 9:00am
1 banana
3 scoops (69gr) EAS Protein
1 tbs. Natty PB

10:45 am
1 packet Plasma Jet NO2 product (bench days only) it's left over!
10mg Havoc

12:00-workout (Chest)

Flat Bench- 135lbs -10x
205lbs -6x
195lbs -6x
195lbs 6x
195lbs. 6x
195lbs 4x to failure
185lbs 1x (immediately following)
155lbs 5x (immediately following that)
Decline Bench -135lbs. 10x
135 10x
135 10x
135 10x
135 9x
Flat Bench Dumb Bell Shotguns
35lb'ers 15x
15x
15x
15x
I felt pretty good today. Mainly excited I finally got things started. I had a cooking show to host tonight so I crammed alot of eating in during the shoot.

Meal#3 1:10pm
8 oz. sauteed CHX Breast
1 cup cooked Brown Rice
2 Cups raw Broccoli (didn't have time to steam it. Tough to eat man!!)

Meal#4 3:00 pm
3 scoops Protein, 1 tbs. Natty PB

4:15pm
fish oil, saw palmetto, milk thistle, 10mg Havoc

Meal#5 6:00pm through 7:00pm
I consumed probably 2 full cups cooked Brussel Sprouts sauteed in Red Wine Vinegar, a tsp. of sugar (excellent), 8oz Filet of Beef sliced thin and rolled with herbs (rosemary, sage, and chive), and a few sauteed pears in a reduction sauce. ( too sweet for me so I only had a few bites).

Meal#6 8:45
Not as spread out as I would like but with my shoot tonight it made things tough. I didn't want to be eating at 10:00
1 cup Brussel Sprouts, 1 cup Broccoli ( i'm steaming that **** tomorrow )
6 oz. of Filet (left over)

and of course tons of water!!!

That's day 1. I have pics at work I'll post with a pre and post workout as well!!
 
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Sorry for the basic lack of info.
I'm 6'1" 195lbs. 31 yrs old.
I also did abs last night.
sit ups (with a firm pillow under my ass)
50x
35x
50x
35x
30x

I've heard so much about Joint Creakage and soreness so I'm gonna lube the joints up with the D-Bol and grab a little strength while I'm at it.

bTW, I slept like **** last night. Already looking forward to my workout and my bed!
 
How long have you been lifting? you have a nice diet layout but im wondering how experienced you are, your bench numbers seem pretty low....
 
I'VE BEEN LIFTING FOR A FEW YEARS AND i'VE MOVED UP QUITE A BIT. UNFORTUNATELY MY BENCH PRESS IS THE HARDEST FOR ME TO MOVE UP IN. MY MAX IS 240 LBS RIGHT NOW. I USED TO BE A RUNNER AND HAVE SINCE MOVED TO LIFTING. I'VE WENT FROM 175 LBS TO 195 IN ABOUT A YEAR. DAMN, THANKS FOR THE SUPPORT........:clap2:
 
I am thinking about taking my 20th and 30thmg of Havoc pre-workout and not taking the 3rd pill at 5:00 pm. I couldn't sleep at all last night. Am I hurting myself by not spreading them out? I've heard there could be sleeplessness on it. Will it still be in my system for the remainder of the day? The half life per the chart is 6 hours. thanks, angel77
 
day2

Day2

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6:00am -breakfast
2 eggs + 4 egg whites
6 oz. chx breast
3/4 cup oatmeal + 1 tbs. milled flax seed & 1/2 tbs. brown sugar

6:30am- Milk Thistle, Saw Palmetto, Fish Oil, DHEA, and 10mg Havoc

9:30am-
3 scoops protein (69g) 1 tbs. natty pb

11:30am-
20mg Havoc (pre-workout)

workout-
Bicep / Tricep
Dumb Bell Curls- (consecutive reps set)
set1. 45's (12x)
35's (15x)
25's (15x)
20's (15x)
10's (20x)
set2. same weight
10x
10x
12x
15x
20x
set3. same weight
8x
10x
12x
15x
20x

bent curl bar curls (superset) immediately following curl sets
55lbs. (15x)

Tricep- wall lean push backs
40x
35x
40x

Tricep- flat bench skull crushers- bent curl bar
55lbs. (25x)
(20x)
(20x)
Tricep - Dumb Bell Kick Backs
20lb dumb bell (15x)
(10x)
(15x)

underhand (bicep) pull ups
10x
10x
7x

1:15pm- 3 scoops protein, 1 tbs. natty pb

2:00pm-2 cups steamed broccoli, 2 cups cottage cheese, 4oz beef roast

4:00pm- 2 cups cottage cheese, 1 cup broccoli

5:30- 1 scoop Cycle Support (Thanks alot guys!!!) & fish oil

I still have some eating to do today. I feel pretty light headed due to bad sleep last night and everything just getting built up in my system. I love the clean diet but I know that's playing part in me being hungry and lethargic. The DHEA is helping a little but with no garbage carbs like chips, pasta, or bread, it leaves you hungry feeling all the time. My carbs are all coming from oatmeal & veggies. I need a sweet potatoe or something! :aargh:

I have to thank the guys at Anabolic Innovations for everything. I recieved the package. What a bonus. I won't let you down. Cheers until tomorrow!!!
 
I'm in week 4 of a havoc + dbol cycle, your going to love the results.

I'm running it at havoc and dbol 40mg right now, setting PR's in every lift, every day at the gym.. great feeling! I'm also running letro .50mg ED to keep off water and possible gyno, and T3/clen. Results so far are a solid 12pds along with a 2% bf drop. AWESOME cycle!
 
adrenaline24 said:
I'm in week 4 of a havoc + dbol cycle, your going to love the results.

I'm running it at havoc and dbol 40mg right now, setting PR's in every lift, every day at the gym.. great feeling! I'm also running letro .50mg ED to keep off water and possible gyno, and T3/clen. Results so far are a solid 12pds along with a 2% bf drop. AWESOME cycle!
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Isnt running T3 and Clen kind of a waist when your running two bulking supps? i assuem your trying to keep fat gain down but surely your diet would take care of that?
 
angel77 said:
I am thinking about taking my 20th and 30thmg of Havoc pre-workout and not taking the 3rd pill at 5:00 pm. I couldn't sleep at all last night. Am I hurting myself by not spreading them out? I've heard there could be sleeplessness on it. Will it still be in my system for the remainder of the day? The half life per the chart is 6 hours. thanks, angel77
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Insomnia can be resulted if dosed too close to bedtime. I would move the last dose up earlier in the day if that continues. You can also try to add in a good sleep induction product as well. If anything, benadryl at 25-50mg will most likely get the job done.

I would keep the 20mg dose of havoc pre-workout for sure. What time are you lifting, in the am?

Also, i don't recommend running the two methyls at the same time......however maybe you're bridging this and i'm not seeing it.
 
Trauma1 said:
Insomnia can be resulted if dosed too close to bedtime. I would move the last dose up earlier in the day if that continues. You can also try to add in a good sleep induction product as well. If anything, benadryl at 25-50mg will most likely get the job done.

I would keep the 20mg dose of havoc pre-workout for sure. What time are you lifting, in the am?

Also, i don't recommend running the two methyls at the same time......however maybe you're bridging this and i'm not seeing it.
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Benadryl huh? I've never heard of using it to sleep before. Yes, I am stacking the D-Bol with the Havoc but the D-bol at a low dose around 15-20 per day for a 5 week cycle. I have strong cycle support and am very good at listening to the body. I've also read up on many that have used these together with great results. Thanks so much for the sleep help. Last night was much better. I'll be starting the D-Bol in a few days. Cheers!
BTW, I am lifting at 12:00 noon.
 
angel77 said:
Benadryl huh? I've never heard of using it to sleep before. Yes, I am stacking the D-Bol with the Havoc but the D-bol at a low dose around 15-20 per day for a 5 week cycle. I have strong cycle support and am very good at listening to the body. I've also read up on many that have used these together with great results. Thanks so much for the sleep help. Last night was much better. I'll be starting the D-Bol in a few days. Cheers!
BTW, I am lifting at 12:00 noon.
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While benadryl (Diphenhydramine) is an H1 or histamine-1 blocker used primarily as a potent antihistamine, it also produces a sedative/hypnotic effect as a direct side effect. Dosing to induce this is typically around 50mg, but others can see it at 25mg. I don't recommend you use this all the time, but on those nights that it's tough to fall asleep, give it a whirl.

I would try some of the good sleep products on the market. I personally like Somnidren-GH (MST), The Abyss (Nimbus Nutrition), or Bullet Proof (Muscle Pharm).

I would stick with how you have the dosing set up right now, and add in a sleep adjunct to help attenuate the sleep issue. Let me know if you have any questions along the way, i'd be glad to help. :)
 
Trauma1 said:
While benadryl (Diphenhydramine) is an H1 or histamine-1 blocker used primarily as a potent antihistamine, it also produces a sedative/hypnotic effect as a direct side effect. Dosing to induce this is typically around 50mg, but others can see it at 25mg. I don't recommend you use this all the time, but on those nights that it's tough to fall asleep, give it a whirl.

I would try some of the good sleep products on the market. I personally like Somnidren-GH (MST), The Abyss (Nimbus Nutrition), or Bullet Proof (Muscle Pharm).

I would stick with how you have the dosing set up right now, and add in a sleep adjunct to help attenuate the sleep issue. Let me know if you have any questions along the way, i'd be glad to help. :)
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Thanks alot! Cheers, angel77;)
 
Australian made said:
Isnt running T3 and Clen kind of a waist when your running two bulking supps? i assuem your trying to keep fat gain down but surely your diet would take care of that?
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yeah but I was already running the T3/clen before I started the cycle so I figured I would just run it through to keep me lean throughout it. It's worked out great so far, lets just hope I can hold it all after pct.
 
day4

6:00am -breakfast- same every day!
6:30- cycle support, fish oil, dhea 50mg, Havoc 10mg

WARNING!! (DO NOT take a scoop of Cycle Support w/ your Oatmeal!)
tasted HORRIBLE. I honest to god don't know how I kept it down.

9:20am- Protein concoction- banana, 3 scoops, tbs. natty pb
11:30- 20mg Havoc

12:00 workout- (LEGS)
Quad (leg lift)
165lbs. (10x)
(10x)
(10x)
(10x)
Calf Raises-
(45x)
(80x)
(80x)
(80x)

Squats- have to be careful... (bad lwr back)
135lbs
12x
15x
12x
10x

All in all a good workout, my legs feel like jelly still and it's 10:30pm. I've been lethargic all day and the DHEA doesn't seem to be helping. I need some good sleep. I'll check back tomorow.

My dinner was great. Sauteed chx breasts with Quinoa, (it's a peruvian grain ) superfood really packed with protein and completely whole grain. If it wasn't so damn expensive I'd eat it every day. Just cook it like rice, 2 cups of water to 1 cup quinoa. To go with it just sautee some diced onion in olive oil and add crushed red pepper, salt, and white truffle oil! INSANELY GOOD!!
 
Cycle support is an aquired taste. Vomit comes to mind when i think of that stuff. Add it to your shakes, after a while you will get used to it. Just slam it down fast!
 
Australian made said:
Cycle support is an aquired taste. Vomit comes to mind when i think of that stuff. Add it to your shakes, after a while you will get used to it. Just slam it down fast!
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I agree totally. Vomit is just about right. LOL! The sad thing is even when you slam it it lingers for a while. :frustrate
 
Day5

same breakfast at 6:00am, follwed by cycle support, 10mg Havoc, 50mg DHEA, and Fish Oil.

9:00am- Protein 3 scoops, 2 tbs. natty pb and 1 banana

11:24am- 20mg Havoc

12:00 Neck & Back
Shoulder Shrugs-
55's (40x)
65's (35x)
65's (40x)
65's (35x)

Standing Dumb Bell Flys
20's (25x)
20's (20x)
20's (20x)
20's (20x)

Reverse Decline Situps (lwr back)
25x
25x
25x

Dumb Bell Rows
70's
8x-each arm
8x-each arm
10x-each arm

I love working back! Pretty sore about now. It's 10:41pm and I'm waiting for a damn Tiramisu Cheesecake to come out of the damn oven. I'm cooking dinner for 8 tomorrow night and I've been preping all this **** all night! Had to sneak this post in before I hit the hay. I can't wait to kick it up to 40mg next week. That cycle support is just disturbing. It's like a game. I keep trying to find things that mask the flavor. Yogurt worked alright. It's my challenge these days! Don't get me wrong, I'm VERY GRATEFUL for the stuff and I know it works wonders, I'm just sayin'!
Until tomorrow! (Oh, I had more Quinoa and Chx for dinner. )
 
Which cycle support flavor do you have? I use the peanut butter one, and add it too my shakes everyday. In all honesty, i don't really notice it that much.

I haven't tried the chocolate, so maybe that's the issue.
 
the chocolate doesn't taste like chocolate. It kinda messes the taste in a vanilla whey shake, but tastes alright in a chocolate shake.

but **** taste huh. just think of what liqui nolva tastes like.
 
UnrealMachine said:
the chocolate doesn't taste like chocolate. It kinda messes the taste in a vanilla whey shake, but tastes alright in a chocolate shake.

but **** taste huh. just think of what liqui nolva tastes like.
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I cap that sh*t before i take it, i don't even go there, lol!
 
Trauma1 said:
I cap that sh*t before i take it, i don't even go there, lol!
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i was squirting it right in my mouth and then chasing with water. Not even adding to water. It tastes bad but whatever.

sorry for getting OT!

The log looks good. I think Havoc & Dbol is an obvious stack for some synergy between the wet and dry compounds. I would go heavier on the dumbell rows! :). If you do 8,8,10 reps then you are probably finishing with some extra energy left, try going a little heavier, you'll be amazed what you can handle with DB rows. I used to like doing 3x6 with a 135lber. Probably my favorite back exercise.
 
Australian made said:
How long have you been lifting? you have a nice diet layout but im wondering how experienced you are, your bench numbers seem pretty low....
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Just a reminder, hope you don't think the bench is the be all end all of exercises. i hardly ever bench anymore. i stick to dumbell's mostly. If i do it's 225 for a few quick reps
 
Day6

SAME FOOD INTAKE AND SUPPLEMENT INTAKE. I DIDN'T GET STARTED UNTIL 7:30AM SINCE SATURDAYS A LITTLE MORE LAID BACK.
i ALSO SHORTED MYSELF ONE PROTEIN DRINK. I TOOK 20MG OF HAVOC EARLY INSTEAD OF AFTERNOON TO HELP MY SLEEP A BIT! I STILL DIDN'T WORK EVEN AFTER BUSTIN' MY ASS IN THE KITCHEN.
i PREPARED A DINNER FOR 8 LAST NIGHT AND I MADE SURE TO PREPARE SOME STUFF I COULD EAT WITHOUT KILLIN' MY DIET. i DID ROASTED BEETS W/ A BALSAMIC REDUCTION GLAZE, STUFFED FLATTENED BONLESS SKINLESS CHX BREASTS WITH FETA, SLICED BELL PEPPERS, PORTOBELLA MUSHROOMS, AND SPINACH. THE BOMB! I ALSO PREPARED A BASIL SUNDRIED TOMATO PESTO CREAM SAUCE OVER FETTUCINNI PASTA AND A TIRAMISU CHEESECAKE! I DIDN'T TOUCH THE PASTA OR THE CHEESECAKE. I DID PREPARE BRUSCHETTA FOR AN APPETIZER AND I DID EAT AROUND 4 PIECES OF THAT. DUDE, YOU CAN'T HELP IT! THE **** IS EXCELLENT!
I MADE IT HOME AROUND 10:30 AND I MANAGED TO EAT QUITE A BIT OF CHICKEN AND BEETS BEFORE WE LEFT AND ON MY WAY HOME. IT FELT NICE TO HAVE THE DAY OFF LIFTING. CHECK BACK TOMORROW
 
Day-7

Just abs today.
10:00am -
3 whole eggs + 3 egg whites & 1 cup cooked Steel Cut Oats, sliced Roma Tomatoes.

10:20 Havoc 20mg, fish oil, cycle support, and dhea.

10:45am -body ball crunches
40x
30x
35x
35x
40x
40x

12:44pm- protein shake, natty pb.

2:00pm- Havoc 10mg

5:00pm-1 plate spaghetti (home made meatballs) and 2 small pieces garlic toast.(extra meatballs)

5:50pm- fish oil, cycle support, Havoc 10mg

8:45pm- bruschetta
 
day8

6:00am-steel cut oats, 3 whole eggs, 3 egg whites
6:30 Havoc 10mg, Cycle Support, Fifh Oil, DHEA 50mg
9:30-Protein (3 scoops, Banana, 2 tbs. natty pb.
10:40 Plasma Jet- NO product
11:20am- 20mg Havoc

Chest Workout-
135lbs. (10x)
195lbs. (8x)
(8x)
(8x)
(7x)
(4x)
185lbs. (5x)
(4x)
135lbs. (superset)-8x to failure

Dumb Bell Shotguns
35's-20x
20x
20x
15x
1:00pm -Protein Shake, banana, natty pb
3:00pm- cottage cheese (2 cups), 1 cup broccoli

6:00pm carrots, cellery,
7:30- chicken sate', chicken vegetable soup (home made)
9:00pm- Cycle Support, Fish Oil, and 10mg Havoc.

I actually slept really hard despite taking my 40th mg of Havoc at 9:00pm. I was f&$*kin' exhausted! I got great sleep last night. Long day at the office dealin' with a short fused boss. I got out of there early to go film my show whcih would have been nice if it wasn't another hour drive away. Makes for a long day away from the kids. Anyway, I see today going a little better and I'm ready for arms!

The bench workout felt really good and I haven't repped that many sets at 195 ever so definately an improvement. I know it's not huge but I'm feelin' better every day. cheers, angel77


still waiting on the D-Bol. :aargh: Hopefully today...
 
Behemoth1 said:
Just a reminder, hope you don't think the bench is the be all end all of exercises. i hardly ever bench anymore. i stick to dumbell's mostly. If i do it's 225 for a few quick reps
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Barbell or dumbells, doesnt matter what im refering to. The numbers were low either way.
 
Day 9

6am-breakfast-same

6:30-Havoc 10mg, Fish Oil, Cycle Support, DHEA 50mg

9:30 Protein, PB, Banana

11:20- Havoc 20mg

12:00-WORKOUT (Biceps/Triceps)

curls (dumb bell)
35's (10x) -warm up
45's 12x
35's 12x
25's 15x
20's 20x (consecutive set) 30 seconds in between weight change

45's 10x
35's 10x
25's 15x
20's 20x

45's 10x
35's 10x
25's 12x
20's 12x

Tricep- lean in wall push offs
35x
35x
35x

Tricep-bent curl bar Skull Crushers
55lbs (25x)
25x
25x

Tricep- kick backs
20's (20x) each arm
20x

12:30 Protein, PB, Banana

2:50pm-2 Cupps Cottage Cheese, 2 Cup[s Steamed Broccoli, 1/2 cup toasted Pine Nuts

4:15pm-2 cans tuna fish , 2 tbs. mayo, 1 tbs, sweet relish

4:20-Fish Oil, Havoc 10mg, Cycle Support, DHEA 50mg

7:00pm- Lean Ground Beef Burritos w/ Flour Tortillas. Chilula Hot Sauce, smaal amount shredded Colby, and 1 tbs sour cream. LOTs of BEEF 1/2 LB.

7:30pm- 1 banana, 1 prune

Pretty damn good workout considering it got cut short. I workout AT WORK every day from 12:00 TO 1:00. There's a weight room at the shop and on occasion I'll get called to help a customer. I'm feeling better every day.
 
day10

6-breakfast

6:30-Cycle Support, Havoc 10mg, DHEA 50mg, fish oil

9:15-Protein, PB, Banana

10:50- 1 cup Great Northern Beans

11:25am-Havoc 20mg

12:00-Workout (Shoulders)
sitting vertical press w/ bent curl bar

65lbs. (15x) warmup
105lbs (12x)
105lbs (10x)
105lbs (10x)
105lbs (12x)
105lbs (10x)
105lbs (8x)

standing dumb bell raises
20's (10x) each arm side lift
(10x) each arm straight ahead lifts
(10x) each arm front cross lifts

shoulder dumb bell flys
20's (10x)
(15x)

workout got cut short a bit today but still more reps at a heavier weight than ever before. Felt pretty good for not getting any damn sleep last night. I've been ready for bed all damn day.

12:45 Protein, Banana, PB

3:00pm- 1 cup Broccoli, 1 can Tuna Fish, 1 1/2 cups cottage cheese

4:36pm-Cycle Support, Havoc 10mg, Fish Oil, DHEA 50mg

5:30- open faced veggie sandwich

6:00pm- Body Ball Crunches
35x
25x
25x

I'm gonna eat some sautee chicken when the wife gets home and rip off a few more crunch sets. I can't wait to hit the hay! Cheers, angel77
 
Australian made said:
whats your weight looking like since you started?
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very close to original weight. I started at 195lbs. and I've been fluctuating between 195 and 200. I really want to get up to 205 consistently. I feel like I'm eating enough but maybe not? I'm on day 11 right now and I've heard you really start to notice in the third week. Any advice? I definately want to eat clean regardless of calorie increase. Cheers, angel77
 
6:15am-breakfast oatmeal, flax seed, 6 eggs

6:30-Havoc 10mg, Cycle Support, Fish Oil, DHEA 50mg.

9:00am-PB, Banana, Protein (3 scoops)

feelin' really lethargic. DHEA doesn't seem to be helping. i'm also having to make myself eat to get the calories needed for growth. I am ready for a killer neck & uppr back w. out.

11:20-Havoc 20mg

12:00pm-workout

standing vertical chin lifts w/ bent curl bar
55lbs. (15x) warmup
(20x)
(20x)
(20x)
(20x)

Shoulder Shrugs-
70lb dumb bells
(35x)
(35x)
(35x)
(30x)
(35x)

Dumb Bell Rows
70lb dumb bells
12x
10x
12x
8x
8x

Felt strong today. Not a bad workout at all. I'm feeling better in the weight room. The only thing I look forward to doing all day is my workout aside from seeing my kids of course. Overall, so far so good. I need to put on some weight in the next week seriously. I'm adding calories in the morning and at night. All clean boys!!



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If you're not gaining weight,cant sleep and feel lethargic i would say you need to increase your carb intake.I would try to get at least 100g of complex carbs in you in the AM before you workout,drop the PB from your post WO shake and up the carbs in it to 70/80g.Work out how many carbs you're getting at the moment and increase it by 100g ED,if you're still not gaining/feeling better after 3-4 days,add another 60-80g ED.As long as they are complex carbs spread evenly thru the day you should'nt get fat.
 
angel77 said:
I am thinking about taking my 20th and 30thmg of Havoc pre-workout and not taking the 3rd pill at 5:00 pm. I couldn't sleep at all last night. Am I hurting myself by not spreading them out? I've heard there could be sleeplessness on it. Will it still be in my system for the remainder of the day? The half life per the chart is 6 hours. thanks, angel77
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Why not just lower your havoc dose? Androgens can cause some pretty significant CNS stimulation. I've noticed more sleeplessness when first starting the cycle. As you progress though, that particular side effect decreases.

Why not start at 1 cap per day and taper up?
 
Trauma1 said:
While benadryl (Diphenhydramine) is an H1 or histamine-1 blocker used primarily as a potent antihistamine, it also produces a sedative/hypnotic effect as a direct side effect. Dosing to induce this is typically around 50mg, but others can see it at 25mg. I don't recommend you use this all the time, but on those nights that it's tough to fall asleep, give it a whirl.

I would try some of the good sleep products on the market. I personally like Somnidren-GH (MST), The Abyss (Nimbus Nutrition), or Bullet Proof (Muscle Pharm).

I would stick with how you have the dosing set up right now, and add in a sleep adjunct to help attenuate the sleep issue. Let me know if you have any questions along the way, i'd be glad to help. :)
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Agree with the benadryl suggestion. Works quite well. IMO, doxylamine succinate is much more effective though.

Its the same anti-histamine found in nyquil, and can also be found OTC as a sleep aid. I think its hypnotic effects are much more profound than those of benadryl.

Like I said before though, I think you're better off just lowering your havoc dose...or taking it earlier in the day.
 
angel77 said:
SAME FOOD INTAKE AND SUPPLEMENT INTAKE. I DIDN'T GET STARTED UNTIL 7:30AM SINCE SATURDAYS A LITTLE MORE LAID BACK.
i ALSO SHORTED MYSELF ONE PROTEIN DRINK. I TOOK 20MG OF HAVOC EARLY INSTEAD OF AFTERNOON TO HELP MY SLEEP A BIT! I STILL DIDN'T WORK EVEN AFTER BUSTIN' MY ASS IN THE KITCHEN.
i PREPARED A DINNER FOR 8 LAST NIGHT AND I MADE SURE TO PREPARE SOME STUFF I COULD EAT WITHOUT KILLIN' MY DIET. i DID ROASTED BEETS W/ A BALSAMIC REDUCTION GLAZE, STUFFED FLATTENED BONLESS SKINLESS CHX BREASTS WITH FETA, SLICED BELL PEPPERS, PORTOBELLA MUSHROOMS, AND SPINACH. THE BOMB! I ALSO PREPARED A BASIL SUNDRIED TOMATO PESTO CREAM SAUCE OVER FETTUCINNI PASTA AND A TIRAMISU CHEESECAKE! I DIDN'T TOUCH THE PASTA OR THE CHEESECAKE. I DID PREPARE BRUSCHETTA FOR AN APPETIZER AND I DID EAT AROUND 4 PIECES OF THAT. DUDE, YOU CAN'T HELP IT! THE **** IS EXCELLENT!
I MADE IT HOME AROUND 10:30 AND I MANAGED TO EAT QUITE A BIT OF CHICKEN AND BEETS BEFORE WE LEFT AND ON MY WAY HOME. IT FELT NICE TO HAVE THE DAY OFF LIFTING. CHECK BACK TOMORROW
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holy caps-lock


angel77 said:
still waiting on the D-Bol. Hopefully today...
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Wait, so you're not even taking the dbol yet? If its havoc solo, that might explain the lack of weight gain. I really didnt gain much weight with havoc...maybe only a few lbs over 6 weeks.
 
quigs said:
Agree with the benadryl suggestion. Works quite well. IMO, doxylamine succinate is much more effective though.

Its the same anti-histamine found in nyquil, and can also be found OTC as a sleep aid. I think its hypnotic effects are much more profound than those of benadryl.

Like I said before though, I think you're better off just lowering your havoc dose...or taking it earlier in the day.
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I totally agree with you on the doxylamine succinate, quigs. Without a doubt, more effective in its hyptnotic effects imo as well. I just wouldn't be taking nyquil while on havoc though due to the acetaminophen content. :) Like you said though, doxylamine succinate is contained in other otc sleep aides as an option.

I really think the Somnidren-GH would be a good addition to his cycle here to attenuate sleep issues.

You have you been, quigs?
 
Day 15 (GAINS!!!!!!!)

Well, I experienced very nice gains today. It was bench today and I usually use this to judge anyway.
6-am 6 eggs, Steel Cut Oats 2 cups, 6 oz ground beef

6:50am- cycle suppt, Havoc 10mg, Fish Oil, DHEA 50mg

9:10am- Protein, Natty PB, Banana

10:30- Plasma Jet (NO2 product)

11:20am-Havoc 20mg, MMV2 300mg (3 caps)

12:00pm -workout

Bench-
135lbs. (15x)
225lbs (6x) personal best- I'd never tried to rep out with it before but it felt very good
225lbs (4x)
225lbs (3x)
225lbs (2x)
225lbs (2x)
195 lbs (5x)
195lbs (4x)
135lbs (16x) superset
225lbs (1x (help at end)

Shotguns-dumb bell
45's (15x)
(15x)
(15x)
(10x)
(10x)

1:15pm- Spaghetti w/ Meat Sauce (EXTRA MEAT!!) , Protein Shake, 1/2 cup Steel Cut Oats. I've added quite a few extra carbs for calories and energy.

3:57pm-3/4 cup Steel Cut Oats, 1 cup cottage cheese

4:52pm- Fish Oil, DHEA 50mg, Havoc 10mg, MMV2 100mg

Lookin' forward to eatin' a bunch more tonight!!
I felt so GREAT today! I don't know how else to explain it. The morning was normal. I felt like I got good rest last night. The Havoc doesn't present any profound feeling or state of mind where I actually feel good but damn, when I hit the weight room and started it just felt right. 225 was going up very nicely. I'll be shooting for 10 reps here in 2 weeks. This was a huge jump compared to what I had been lifting as far as weight and reps!! Cheers, angel77


BTW- the weekend was very laid back. No workout but strict diet fo sho!!!!
 
day16

Damn, my legs KILL!

Diet was the same. Supp intake the same.
12:00 noon-workout-squats
135lbs (20x)
(20x)
(25x)
185lbs(10x)
235lbs (5x)
(10x)
185lbs (10x)

Lunges-
95lbs (10x) each leg
(5x)
(5x)

My legs are straight jello right now. It's been so long since I pounded out reps like this. Felt great while doing it, just hurt bad afterward. I've been adding quite a few extra carbs and it's helped alot with energy. Sorry so short today but I'm spent and had a hell of a day. Cheers
 
day17

Diet the same and supp intake the exactly the same all day.
6-breakfast
6:30- supps
9:30 protein, PB, Banana
11:30 Havoc 20mg, MMV2 300mg (3 caps)
12:00-workout
Bicep/Tricep
curl dumb bell sets
45's (12x)
35's (20x)
25's (20x)
20's (20x) -all consecutive w/ 30 second brake in between

backwards-
20's (12x)
25's (12x)
35's (12x)
45's (8x)- struggling at this point!!

final set-
45's (10x)
35's (10x)
25's (12x)
20's (15x)

Tricep _wall lean push-warmup
40x

hanging excercise band kick backs-(tricep killer)
10x each arm
15x
20x
15x
20x
15x

1:00pm- protein, PB, roasted pumpkin seeds, 1 whole head broccoli (steamed)

4:58pm- Cycle Suppt, Havoc 10mg, MMv2 100mg, Fish Oil, DHEA 50mg

6:00pm- HUGE Pulled Pork Sandwich on Whole Wheat w/ Cole Slaw

Very good workout today. My numbers are going up every day. Weight and number of reps. I feel very confident when I'm in the weight room. I'm already looking forward to tomorrow at 12:00
I know my numbers are going up next week as well. BTW- my weight has also been going up within the last week. It didn't seem to be a gradual thing with me. It's been creeping up since the end of my second week. I'm over 200lbs consistently now all throughout the day. Enjoying the results very much. It's all about being patient until it builds up in your system. It's funny guys commenting how theyv'e been on it for 2 weeks and feel nothing. If they'd hang in there another week they would see certain changes in their weight numbers for sure. I have to thank you workingatit and the others from Anabolic Innovations for your generosity. I'm making the most of it and feel fantastic. Other than I'm working so hard I'm sore every day That IS a GOOD THING!!!!! The only ***** is I'm running out of mooney for FOOD!!:dl:
 
angel77 said:
Meal#5 6:00pm through 7:00pm
I consumed probably 2 full cups cooked Brussel Sprouts sauteed in Red Wine Vinegar, a tsp. of sugar (excellent), 8oz Filet of Beef sliced thin and rolled with herbs (rosemary, sage, and chive), and a few sauteed pears in a reduction sauce. ( too sweet for me so I only had a few bites).

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LOL!!!! Bro that is the chef in you, isn't it!!?? Sort of trumps my brown ground turkey slathered in a couple jars of pastsa sauce with a aggressive side of microwave steamed mixed veggies! :rofl:
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papapumpsd said:
angel77 said:
Meal#5 6:00pm through 7:00pm
I consumed probably 2 full cups cooked Brussel Sprouts sauteed in Red Wine Vinegar, a tsp. of sugar (excellent), 8oz Filet of Beef sliced thin and rolled with herbs (rosemary, sage, and chive), and a few sauteed pears in a reduction sauce. ( too sweet for me so I only had a few bites).

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LOL!!!! Bro that is the chef in you, isn't it!!?? Sort of trumps my brown ground turkey slathered in a couple jars of pastsa sauce with a aggressive side of microwave steamed mixed veggies! :rofl:
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:dance:Well, that particular meal was left over from TV Shoot! I get spoiled from time to time! LOL!!:head:
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Why dont you try slightly higher weight in bench but less sets.

Say 1 set 180 x 10, set 2 @ 205 x 8, set 3 @ 225 6, set 4 @ 250 for as many as you can get up. Might help get you some strength gains if you continued that way for a lil while.

Ive just never been a fan of a millions sets.
 
knucks3man said:
Why dont you try slightly higher weight in bench but less sets.

Say 1 set 180 x 10, set 2 @ 205 x 8, set 3 @ 225 6, set 4 @ 250 for as many as you can get up. Might help get you some strength gains if you continued that way for a lil while.

Ive just never been a fan of a millions sets.
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will DEFINATELY give this a shot monday!! Thanks man, angel77:cheers:
 
day22 GAINS!!

diet the same!

bench today-
135 (10x)-warm up
185 (10x)
225 (7x) *PR*
250 (2x) *PR*
260 (1x) *PR*
225 (3x + 1x reverse)
185 (10x)
135 (17x)

Absolutely great workout today. It's crazy, when I'm doing my warm up at 135 I don't feel any stronger and the reps don't seem any easier but then as the weight gets piled on it just goes up. I don't know how exactly to explain it. My state of mind doesn't even seem different I just feel very confident when I lift it off the rack. I'd never tried 250lbs and it went up so easily I had to go for another rep and no probs! I figured just for the hell of it go for 260. It was about 30 seconds after I did 250 twice and I popped it right up.
Let me tell everybody something, the Havoc WORKS!! I always look forward to doing bench and it's a workout I always struggled at until now. It's so nice to get over a hump. Still eating clean and actually looking forward to cutting here in about 5 weeks. I'm ready to shred!! Cheers guys, I hope this assures you non-believers that orals do work and a product like this works VERY WELL on its own. Just for the record about my weight... I have gained a total of 8-9lbs. I fluctuate like everyone else right around 203 and 204lbs. To be honest, I'd just assume adding strength all along. I don't care to much about adding more weight. This has been a very successful cycle thus far and it's just the start of my 4th week. I'm looking forward to gains going into my 5th week. Peace dogs!!!!:head:
 
angel77 said:
diet the same!

bench today-
135 (10x)-warm up
185 (10x)
225 (7x) *PR*
250 (2x) *PR*
260 (1x) *PR*
225 (3x + 1x reverse)
185 (10x)
135 (17x)

Absolutely great workout today. It's crazy, when I'm doing my warm up at 135 I don't feel any stronger and the reps don't seem any easier but then as the weight gets piled on it just goes up. I don't know how exactly to explain it. My state of mind doesn't even seem different I just feel very confident when I lift it off the rack. I'd never tried 250lbs and it went up so easily I had to go for another rep and no probs! I figured just for the hell of it go for 260. It was about 30 seconds after I did 250 twice and I popped it right up.
Let me tell everybody something, the Havoc WORKS!! I always look forward to doing bench and it's a workout I always struggled at until now. It's so nice to get over a hump. Still eating clean and actually looking forward to cutting here in about 5 weeks. I'm ready to shred!! Cheers guys, I hope this assures you non-believers that orals do work and a product like this works VERY WELL on its own. Just for the record about my weight... I have gained a total of 8-9lbs. I fluctuate like everyone else right around 203 and 204lbs. To be honest, I'd just assume adding strength all along. I don't care to much about adding more weight. This has been a very successful cycle thus far and it's just the start of my 4th week. I'm looking forward to gains going into my 5th week. Peace dogs!!!!:head:
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Great to see the havoc is working well for you brother. Nice job on the log! :)
 
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