Drag curls are one of my favorite bicep moves. Really does a great job of isolating the bicep and taking the anterior delt out of the movement.
Thanks bro, I totally understand where you're coming from. Even with a full gym I have to change things up because they are not well equipped.Mean workout. Yea kleens program is mean. I love it. Would do it if I could do drop sets at home.. Kinda hard with adjustable DBS and not much room to move around to even adjust the weight on the bar lol.
Go get you some! Im a big fan of the Bent Over Row, awesome lat action.God I have to start doing bent over rows!!! Green another killer workout brother. Your freaking insane bra.
Yeah I try to get between 2200-2500 on builds, but Im ok with a little less as Im trying to strip down.Is your calories @2000 a build day?
Its probably my new favorite lift. The movement feels unbelievable, and triggers so much more than just the bicep.Drag curls are one of my favorite bicep moves. Really does a great job of isolating the bicep and taking the anterior delt out of the movement.
I think you should Tiny...you would likey.I've been thinking about trying those, Next workout i say yes!
Hell yeah bro, thats what Im talking about!Drag curls have been added to my workout tomorrow!
Thanks for checking in Doc, getting stronger by the week! You're looking awesome yourself there, excellent progress!!Killer Workouts Green, you are one strong Mo-Fo, keep it up Brotha!!!
I did them with DBs, and kept my elbows way back, but I think they are commonly done with a straight bar. IMO either way you decide shold render excellent results.I'm doing biceps tomorrow and got to remember to do these drag curls!! Are they used with straight or ez bar?
Nice work Green! Way to kill the workout. For those of you wanting to incorporate the DB Drag curls they are a bit different that BB drag curls you pull your elbows far back and try to move the db in an almost perfect verticle line with the centerline of your body, pulling the elbows back that far completely disengages the anterior delts giving the biceps the laser focus intensity they crave. Give it a shot and your biceps will love / hate you.
T-Cups are basically doing a front raise bringing the weight down in front of you but not all the way down just the slightest bit in front of you and off of your hips to keep the tension on the shoulders then do a lateral raise, come down again but not quite all the way to the hips and change direction back to the front so the entire set the tension NEVER comes of the shoulders. One rep is up to the front down, then up to the side and down.
Your shoulders will burn like crazy and you will experience a pump like you probably have never experienced in your shoulders before. Use strength to move the weights not momentum, and be tough it will burn but the bowling balls connecting your arms to you traps will be worth it at the end of the set.
Nice work Green! Way to kill the workout. For those of you wanting to incorporate the DB Drag curls they are a bit different that BB drag curls you pull your elbows far back and try to move the db in an almost perfect verticle line with the centerline of your body, pulling the elbows back that far completely disengages the anterior delts giving the biceps the laser focus intensity they crave. Give it a shot and your biceps will love / hate you.
T-Cups are basically doing a front raise bringing the weight down in front of you but not all the way down just the slightest bit in front of you and off of your hips to keep the tension on the shoulders then do a lateral raise, come down again but not quite all the way to the hips and change direction back to the front so the entire set the tension NEVER comes of the shoulders. One rep is up to the front down, then up to the side and down.
Your shoulders will burn like crazy and you will experience a pump like you probably have never experienced in your shoulders before. Use strength to move the weights not momentum, and be tough it will burn but the bowling balls connecting your arms to you traps will be worth it at the end of the set.
Thank you for the clarification. I searched for a good bit to find this guy with no luck. I didnt want to be a pain in your a$$ and start lighting you with questions, so again thanks Kleen...awesome protocol!
09/07/2011
Meal 1 1300hrs:
511 calories
-10oz chicken breast
-4tbs hummus
-1 piece Layne's cheesecake (with whey powder baked in)
-1 portabella mushroom
Meal 2 1800hrs:
951 calories
-6 eggs (only 2 yolk)
-4tbsp salsa
-2 scoop whey protein
-4oz sirloin tip steak
-4oz chicken breast
-4tbsp hummus
-2 portabella mushroom
-1 navel orange
Meal 3 2045hrs:
410 calories
-2 tbsp hummus
-4oz sirloin tip steak
-2 scoop whey protein
Calories: 1,873
Fat: 53.7g (25%)
Carb: 70g (15%)
Protein: 290.2g (60%)
09/07/2011
Wake 0630hrs:
1-Reduce XT/3-Beat-Alanine/1-Multi-V
Meal 1 1300hrs:
511 calories
-10oz chicken breast
-4tbs hummus
-1 piece Layne's cheesecake (with whey powder baked in)
-1 portabella mushroom
Pre-Workout supplementation 1600hrs:
1-Reduce XT/3-CEE/3-Beta-Alanine
1 scoop of Peach Tea Lit-Up
Training 1630hrs:
WW2: 2 Work Sets to Form Failure 6-8 reps, second Set is a double SSUF (Strip Set until Failure)
Ex. Warm-up Set, Work Set, Work Set > SSUF > SSUF
Chin Ups, BWx8, 50x8, 50x8 > 40x6 >30x5
Felt strong on the chins, 50x8s are no joke. I really focused on a good negative, close to GVT style timing.
Decline Bench, 135x8, 245x8, 245x8 > 205x6 >135x4
This is an exercise I don’t normally do. I really had a nice pump when finished although it took a little time to get balanced. Overall a good addition to the protocol.
Wide Grip Upright Rows, 135x8, 195x8, 195x8 > 175x10 >155x11
I always have good power here, and I pushed to really crank out some high rep failures. I use more of a clean movement with these so its more of an explosive row, but still effective.
T-Cups, The only reference I could find to this exercise was more of a stretch. I did 4 sets of 8 on each side holding no weight. The stretch felt really good, even more so because of the awesome pump I had acquired as a result of the previous lifts. If there is a heavy lift called a T-Cup, please inform me!
Squats, 135x8, 315x8, 315x8 > 295x9 > 275x10
What can I say? Always essential, these were not fun at all especially in the SSUF. Again I focused on more of a GVT style timing.
Stiff Leg Deads, 135x8, 225x8, 225x8 > 205x9 > 195x15
I had some serious enegy at the end here and cranked out the reps. I was thinking I had 20 lbs less on the bar so it seems my mind took over and said 15 reps was a good place to stop on the last SSUF.
Awesome pumps today once again. I did skip a rest day so I could get on schedule with the way the protocol was written. Tommorow will be a rest (active recovery day). I am experiencing some soreness...which I really enjoy and loving the challenge of the SSUF!
Meal 2 1800hrs:
951 calories
-6 eggs (only 2 yolk)
-4tbsp salsa
-2 scoop whey protein
-4oz sirloin tip steak
-4oz chicken breast
-4tbsp hummus
-2 portabella mushroom
-1 navel orange
Post-Workout Supplementation
3-CEE
1 scoop RecoverPro
Meal 3 2045hrs:
410 calories
-2 tbsp hummus
-4oz sirloin tip steak
-2 scoop whey protein
Calories: 1,873
Fat: 53.7g (25%)
Carb: 70g (15%)
Protein: 290.2g (60%)
1-Reduce XT before bed
With the Iron Warrior protocol there is a relationship between mind and muscle. The mind tells you that as you strip off the sets to what seems like lower weight the lift should become easier. The body says that as the weight gets ligther the lift should become easier. As a result IMO the body and mind push harder to attain reps that one would normaly be able to attain at those lower weights even though the body may be incapable of handeling such a demand...This to me as a result should render serious growth...we shall see.
ScottyDoc said:I'm digging the diet Bro, I mean honestly that is probably looking very close to what I will be doing once I hit my mark and I'm looking to maintain, I just might up it a tad more, but then again, I am not sure what day it is for you, as in... burn day, maintenance day, bulk day, don't you vary the diet/calories day by day just a little? I mean that is what I think I have learned from creeping around and reading what everyone is posting about lean gains and stuff!
Thank you sir, yeah that was a burn/build day since I didn't take a rest between workouts. I'd like to get my build up around 2500, and I may thrown in a weekly refeed to around 3500 cals or so to give me a kick since I'm so restricted. So far the protocol I'm using is working well and giving results...so all is well.
09/07/2011
Wake 0630hrs:
1-Reduce XT/3-Beat-Alanine/1-Multi-V
Meal 1 1300hrs:
511 calories
-10oz chicken breast
-4tbs hummus
-1 piece Layne's cheesecake (with whey powder baked in)
-1 portabella mushroom
Pre-Workout supplementation 1600hrs:
1-Reduce XT/3-CEE/3-Beta-Alanine
1 scoop of Peach Tea Lit-Up
Training 1630hrs:
WW2: 2 Work Sets to Form Failure 6-8 reps, second Set is a double SSUF (Strip Set until Failure)
Ex. Warm-up Set, Work Set, Work Set > SSUF > SSUF
Chin Ups, BWx8, 50x8, 50x8 > 40x6 >30x5
Felt strong on the chins, 50x8s are no joke. I really focused on a good negative, close to GVT style timing.
Decline Bench, 135x8, 245x8, 245x8 > 205x6 >135x4
This is an exercise I don’t normally do. I really had a nice pump when finished although it took a little time to get balanced. Overall a good addition to the protocol.
Wide Grip Upright Rows, 135x8, 195x8, 195x8 > 175x10 >155x11
I always have good power here, and I pushed to really crank out some high rep failures. I use more of a clean movement with these so its more of an explosive row, but still effective.
T-Cups, The only reference I could find to this exercise was more of a stretch. I did 4 sets of 8 on each side holding no weight. The stretch felt really good, even more so because of the awesome pump I had acquired as a result of the previous lifts. If there is a heavy lift called a T-Cup, please inform me!
Squats, 135x8, 315x8, 315x8 > 295x9 > 275x10
What can I say? Always essential, these were not fun at all especially in the SSUF. Again I focused on more of a GVT style timing.
Stiff Leg Deads, 135x8, 225x8, 225x8 > 205x9 > 195x15
I had some serious enegy at the end here and cranked out the reps. I was thinking I had 20 lbs less on the bar so it seems my mind took over and said 15 reps was a good place to stop on the last SSUF.
Awesome pumps today once again. I did skip a rest day so I could get on schedule with the way the protocol was written. Tommorow will be a rest (active recovery day). I am experiencing some soreness...which I really enjoy and loving the challenge of the SSUF!
Meal 2 1800hrs:
951 calories
-6 eggs (only 2 yolk)
-4tbsp salsa
-2 scoop whey protein
-4oz sirloin tip steak
-4oz chicken breast
-4tbsp hummus
-2 portabella mushroom
-1 navel orange
Post-Workout Supplementation
3-CEE
1 scoop RecoverPro
Meal 3 2045hrs:
410 calories
-2 tbsp hummus
-4oz sirloin tip steak
-2 scoop whey protein
Calories: 1,873
Fat: 53.7g (25%)
Carb: 70g (15%)
Protein: 290.2g (60%)
1-Reduce XT before bed
With the Iron Warrior protocol there is a relationship between mind and muscle. The mind tells you that as you strip off the sets to what seems like lower weight the lift should become easier. The body says that as the weight gets ligther the lift should become easier. As a result IMO the body and mind push harder to attain reps that one would normaly be able to attain at those lower weights even though the body may be incapable of handeling such a demand...This to me as a result should render serious growth...we shall see.
I am so glad that I am not the only one that LOVES humus! Is it not delish. I remember when I saw it for the first time while in the desert and thought it was bullshiza, but after I ate it...it was on!!!! Love it!
Man I kill some hummus!! I use it as a sauce! Its awesome mixed in with brown rice, used as a dip for chicken and steak, mixed with tuna (instead of may...sooo good), even mixed in with eggs (scrambled, after being cooked). I even started microwaving it and mixing it with hot sauce...I know sounds gross, but it actually thins out and is awesome to dip meats in. VERSATILE!
Oh yeah LOVE HUMMUS! All Hail Chickpea Goo!Man I kill some hummus!! I use it as a sauce! Its awesome mixed in with brown rice, used as a dip for chicken and steak, mixed with tuna (instead of may...sooo good), even mixed in with eggs (scrambled, after being cooked). I even started microwaving it and mixing it with hot sauce...I know sounds gross, but it actually thins out and is awesome to dip meats in. VERSATILE!
I eat that shiza straight from the tub!!!! I need to learn how to make it so that I can save some money, but I'd spread that stuff on raw beaver and lap it up.
Was that too far? Oh Well!
I eat that shiza straight from the tub!!!! I need to learn how to make it so that I can save some money, but I'd spread that stuff on raw beaver and lap it up.
Was that too far? Oh Well!
Oh yeah LOVE HUMMUS! All Hail Chickpea Goo!
UHM yeah you are def a freak of nature. That is one heck of a workout. You would make a dam good personal trainer.
DreamWeaver said:Who else is going to do that kind of volume.. lol Al does it cuz he likes volume... it's not by any means necessary to do that much. He's a crazy fug!! Ohhh Ohhh Pot .. kettle being called black... ok I'm a crazy fug too!! but still don't like high volume...
Who else is going to do that kind of volume.. lol Al does it cuz he likes volume... it's not by any means necessary to do that much. He's a crazy fug!! Ohhh Ohhh Pot .. kettle being called black... ok I'm a crazy fug too!! but still don't like high volume...
ScottyDoc said:Old Fugger... I was just talking to Kleen about this earlier today, do you think my volume is too much? Obviously not your preference, but do you think it is too much for what I am trying to achieve, honestly, I will not take any offense to other's opinions, they are like A$$holes, LoL, we all got them! Seriously though, down for your honest opinion and/or anyone else if they would like to offer theirs!
09/05/2011
Wake 1000hrs:
1-Reduce XT/3-Beat-Alanine/1-Multi-V
I could have slept all day. I think the only reason I finally woke up is because I had to pee so bad, and my back was killing me.
Meal 1 1330hrs:
734 calories
-10oz chicken breast
-4tbs hummus
-1 cup home made chili
-1oz tortilla chips
-3 tbsp salsa
Supplementation 1600hrs:
1-Reduce XT/3-CEE/3-Beta-Alanine
Training:
Due to my gym being closed I decide to stay home, clean the house, and start packing for my future move.
Meal 2 1630hrs:
715 calories
-6oz chicken breast
-8oz sirloin tip steak
-1 portabella mushroom
-2 scoop whey protein
-1 piece aLyne’s cheesecake (with whey protein powder baked in)
Supplementation 1730hrs:
3-CEE
Meal 3 2035hrs:
337 calories
-4 eggs (only 2 yolk)
-1 scoop whey protein
Calories: 1,786
Fat: 54.4g (27%)
Carb: 74.7g (17%)
Protein: 254.7g (56%)
1-Reduce XT before bed
I was out of town this weekend which made things rocky. I wasnt too thrilled with my nutrition, but manged to stick fairly close to my usuall nutrient timing. Again this is another instance of life happening, so I just had to make the best of a situation. We were invited to go and tailgate/watch the Clemson home opener on Saturday with LittleGreen’s family. We all know the quality of tailgate food and beverage, Ill leave it at that, I did have a couple beers, but I was definitely well reserved in the alcohol consumption department.
My supplementation remained the same throughout the weekend. Even with the irregularities in nutrition, I’d say I havent noticed any decline in my physique (which I usually can in situation such as this). I’m looking very vascular especially in my arms and starting to see some increased veinage in my quads extending to the knee caps (nothing extreme, but theyre there).
Im looking forward to getting back into my normal training and nutrition protocols. Its looking like Ill have begin the Iron Warrior Protocol on Wednesday to due obligation with my job tomorrow (both meetings and sports duties in one day...sucks).
dear god you dude can't eat some stuff.. There is no way i can put away all that food. I am too picky with food. And end up getting bored eating the same stuff. You go boy.
TurningGreen said:09/09/2011
Wake 0630hrs:
1-Reduce XT/3-Beat-Alanine/1-Multi-V
Meal 1 1300hrs:
553 calories
-8oz chicken breast
-4tbs hummus
-1 piece Layne's cheesecake (with whey powder baked in)
-1 portabella mushroom
-2 cups kettle corn
Pre-Workout supplementation 1600hrs:
1-Reduce XT/3-CEE/3-Beta-Alanine
1 scoop of Peach Tea Lit-Up
Training 1630hrs:
WW3: 2 Work Sets to Form Failure 6-8 reps, second Set is a double SSUF (Strip Set until Failure)
Ex. Warm-up Set, Work Set, Work Set > SSUF > SSUF
Push Press, 135x8,165x8, 165x8 > 155x10 > 135x10
This has never been a strong lift for me, but I felt ok today. I will probably not increase much on this lift as it really tears up my joints
DB Pull Over, 50x8, 75x12, 75x12 > 65x10 > 55x10
I have done these before, but utilizing them in this protocol really made their worth noticeable. The lower part of my triceps were on fire, massive pump which stayed throughout the duration of the workout.
Smith Incline Bench, 120x8, 205x8 > 205x6 > 185x6 > 165x4
I have never incline benched on a smith before. I must say that I was impressed by the isolation of the chest muscles, which made for an awesome pump. Even as I began to form fail I still was forced to utilize mainly the chest muscle throughout the lift. Very nice!
Reverse Grip Bench Press,120x8, 180x8, 180x8 > 160x12 > 140x8
Dont usually hit these, but again I felt a lot of focus on that lower tricep area. This lift felt really good to me although I need to work on hand placement as my wrists took a beating.
Dead Lifts, 135x8, 265x8, 265x8 > 245x7 > 225x4
Another staple lift here. I focused on a GVT style timing for these. At this point in the protocol I was very tired, but I gave it may all.
Leg Ext,130x8, 210x8, 210x8 > 190x15 >170x20
I think the endorphins were raging here. I gave one last hard effort at the end (probably because I knew it was over. I had trouble walking to my car.
Im sure I will feel tomorrows workout something fierce! I have been sore all week, but not to the point where I cant function. I must say that after week one I am loving this protocol. I am looking forward to the next few weeks, and even more so PHASE II.
Meal 2 1800hrs:
812 calories
-3tbsp sala
-3tbsp light blue cheese dressing
-2/3 cup beef vegetable soup
-10oz chicken breast
-1 steak and mushroom wrap
-2 cups toscana salad (greens, feta, walnuts, roasted red pepper)
-2tbsp vinaigrette dressing
-4tbsp hummus
-1portabella mushroom
Post-Workout Supplementation
3-CEE
1 scoop RecoverPro
Meal 3 2045hrs:
725 calories
-4oz sirloin tip steak
-2 scoop whey protein
-1 slice Layne's cheesecake (with whey powder baked in)
-16oz sam adams oktoberfest (yeah I know)
Calories: 2,090(build)
Fat: 66.3g (30%)
Carb: 109g (22%)
Protein: 237.5g (48%)
1-Reduce XT before bed
Nothing really new to report today. I am sleeping really well since I started the new protocol, which is nice. Im looking forward to adding in some N.O. Ignite (thanks Finaflex and Doc) and kicking the DAA (in the Lit-Up) untill I run the next PH. Should have progress pics tomorrow...LittleGreen will as well...so check em out!
Ha! I am far from picky! Chances are if you put it in front of me ill eat it.
09/09/2011 Nothing really new to report today. I am sleeping really well since I started the new protocol, which is nice. Im looking forward to adding in some N.O. Ignite (thanks Finaflex and Doc) and kicking the DAA (in the Lit-Up) untill I run the next PH. Should have progress pics tomorrow...LittleGreen will as well...so check em out!
packers6211 said:Green that is a solid routine you have brother. That is insane reverse grip bench press cause that shiz isn't easy to do. BTW I hate you, I wish I could eat cheese cake and look like that.
MrKleen73 said:Great workout, man you are doing awesome with this. A suggestion on the reverse grips, Hold the bar in the v of your palm and thumb and keep wrists straight and upright instead of letting them go back making a platform out of your palm for the bar to sit on. When you do that it twists the bones of the forearms so that they are crossing one another under thew weight. I also would not go to wide on them. It is a triceps maneuver so closer together is better. I typically have my arms aligned where the inside of my hand is about even with where the knurl starts or just a little outside of that.
Many of our lifts are very comparable. Although you seem to have more muscular endurance. Not sure if that is a natural gift or a result of your hyperfitness work outs.
Help!!! Im curious, I tried 1mr / :" took a sample pack on tuesday, and i was drug tested on wednesday for probation??? im freaking out- that i may get a false positive? I just need a definitive answer from somone who knows!!!!!!!!?????please.![]()
packers6211 said:Nice detailed pics brother! I so hate you and that body fat percent. I don't know how the heck I'll ever get that low. Just to much mass I got to lose. Also like the calves measurement not bad at all.