good OTC chill pill / relaxation?

You know what... for me, and many others, the problem is not necessarily dependence or addiction, it's permanent tolerance. My first several times with phenibut were absolute magic, but that faded over time. And it does not come back with time. I hadn't taken phenibut in several years, then I got some recently. It's okay, just not what it used to be. Many people on other forums have reported this as well
 
jcc80 said:
You know what... for me, and many others, the problem is not necessarily dependence or addiction, it's permanent tolerance. My first several times with phenibut were absolute magic, but that faded over time. And it does not come back with time. I hadn't taken phenibut in several years, then I got some recently. It's okay, just not what it used to be. Many people on other forums have reported this as well
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Must be y'all, cause it works great for me every time!
 
Did you abuse it an any point? I sure as hell did. But I stayed off of it for a good 5 years, but the magic was still gone
 
jcc80 said:
Did you abuse it an any point? I sure as hell did. But I stayed off of it for a good 5 years, but the magic was still gone
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Na, most I've taken is 2 or 3 grams (i think, can't really remember, lol)

But usually only take 500mg-1g once every other weekend
 
thegameoflife said:
Any recommendations on a good OTC supplement to help with relaxation?
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There are quite a few for sure I think 5-HTP could be a good start though it doesn't work for everyone and I think one of the best anxiolytics out there is phenibut, tastes terrible so you will probably need to get capsules and take at least 1.5g of it to get an effect but it is very good for relaxation.
 
jbryand101b said:
rash? dang that sucks.
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I was kinda bummed its the only supplement that has caused an allergic reaction. Which is a shame because I loved how it made me feel. Oh well I guess Ill just stick to Phenibut XT
 
Dirty Dan said:
I love SNS and was going to pick up Phenibut XT but then saw NP had a good price on their brand for Black Friday and picked up 2 bottles of that (sorry SNS :( ). Anyone have any experience with NP brand of Phenibut?
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We forgive you DD :D.

If the NP brand is powder, it tastes rough
 
Dirty Dan said:
Lol it is their capped version, they have them on sale for $12.19 a bottle. I was curious how effective they are compared to SNS brand Phenibut XT. It seems whenever I buy SNS brand products they always work better then other bulk brands. Must be the raws you use. Anyways if I like the effects of Phenibut, I promise I'll buy Phenibut XT when I re up next! :)
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Oh well that's good; I always buy capped where possible.

I'm sure you'll enjoy the product either way :D
 
Some of the comments in this thread are hilarious
 
Quick question...I've been taking ultram for a while for a shoulder injury from bb benching..and yes I've tried to stop taking it and the withdrawals are horrid...I'm only taking 75 mg/day if that...would Phenibut be something to think about trying for withdrawls?
 
blaykeryan said:
Quick question...I've been taking ultram for a while for a shoulder injury from bb benching..and yes I've tried to stop taking it and the withdrawals are horrid...I'm only taking 75 mg/day if that...would Phenibut be something to think about trying for withdrawls?
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You were taking Tramadol for a shoulder injury? Yikes. I wouldn't suggest using Phenibut as a way to alleviate the symptoms of withdrawal personally, because that in of itself needs to be used sparingly
 
blaykeryan said:
Quick question...I've been taking ultram for a while for a shoulder injury from bb benching..and yes I've tried to stop taking it and the withdrawals are horrid...I'm only taking 75 mg/day if that...would Phenibut be something to think about trying for withdrawls?
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Did Ultram even give you pain relief? For myself it really doesnt do a thing
 
mw1 said:
Did Ultram even give you pain relief? For myself it really doesnt do a thing
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Ultram puts my mind at ease and is very addictive. Not sure I really feel any pain relief though.
 
Yea it helps a little bit...yep they are addictive devils...they aren't as strong as other pain meds but the withdrawls are horrid..I'm at the point where I'm addicted to them and just rely on them too much..so it prolly would be stupid to take something else that can be addictive
 
Immodium ad actually works wonders for opiate withdrawals (probably because its an opiate itself just doesn't pass the blood brain barrier)
 
Oscar said:
Immodium ad actually works wonders for opiate withdrawals (probably because its an opiate itself just doesn't pass the blood brain barrier)
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Wouldnt you have to use an crazy amount of that stuff for it to work as a detox tool. I looked it up on erowid and this guy said he took enough to back you up for like a month!
 
Loperamide is not a mild opiate at all its actually an anoloug of fentanyl just to large a molecule to pass the bbb
 
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