Going to be a swole recovery.... with Lean Gains

MrKleen73 said:
If you have it I find that fluorescent lighting overhead and slightly in front of me seems to be the best for displaying the definition for me. No flash or you will fill all the lines in with light, you need the shadows to show the terrain of the musculature.
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Yah she uses a flash or we would not see much cuz we don't have a lot of light and it seems to be a pretty shyte camera. The last pics were taken with her sisters camera and they were a bit better...
 
MrKleen73 said:
If you have it I find that fluorescent lighting overhead and slightly in front of me seems to be the best for displaying the definition for me. No flash or you will fill all the lines in with light, you need the shadows to show the terrain of the musculature.
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I'm going to give that a try. I have fluorescent lighting in a utility room downstairs and I've never taken pics there.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Yah she uses a flash or we would not see much cuz we don't have a lot of light and it seems to be a pretty shyte camera. The last pics were taken with her sisters camera and they were a bit better...
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Yeah the flash fills the shadows in and flattens out all the contours the shadows accentuate. Even a regular overhead light will do if you stand in the right spot under it.
RickRock13 said:
I'm going to give that a try. I have fluorescent lighting in a utility room downstairs and I've never taken pics there.
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Yeah it looks different, try taking a few pics in a few different spots with the light above and just in front then like 6-12 inches back and until you get a few feet away from the light and then look at the pics and find your sweet spot. If you take all your pics in that area they will come out pretty good and you wont be looking at differences in lighting on your next pics. Time of day can be important too if a room has a window how much light is entering the window messing with the iris of the camera while it is trying to focus on you. Obviously never have a source of light behind you if possible.
 
Sort of a mediocre workout yesterday, when planning with some of my weights I didn't take into account how much I would have to drop the weight to get higher reps in... so would have been decent but I found I was overdoing it on some exercises...

Again the routine is full body workout with double drops..

Lat Pulldown 165 X 12 150 X 8 135 X 6 a bit challenging for the first time out
Bench press 185 X 12 165 X 8 145 X 8 this went ok
L-Lateral raise 30 X 12 25 X 11 X 20 X 11 fine
Close grip bench 165 X 8 135 X 8 105 X 8 weight was a bit too high
Obar curls 115 X 12 105 X 8 95 X 6 bit challenging massive arm pumpage with vascularity though
Front squats, was the highlight of the night... 210 X 12, nice reps 190 X 8, 170 X 8 all very good reps but sucking wind...
Stiff legged deads 205 X 10 185 X 8 165 X 10 weight was a bit too high for what I was trying to do...
Finished with some standing calf raise ...

Pace was fast and furious and it was all business....
 
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DreamWeaver said:
Sort of a mediocre workout yesterday, when planning with some of my weights I didn't take into account how much I would have to drop the weight to get higher reps in... so would have been decent but I found I was overdoing it on some exercises...

Again the routine is full body workout with double drops..

Lat Pulldown 165 X 12 150 X 8 135 X 6 a bit challenging for the first time out
Bench press 185 X 12 165 X 8 145 X 8 this went ok
L-Lateral raise 30 X 12 25 X 11 X 20 X 11 fine
Close grip bench 165 X 8 135 X 8 105 X 8 weight was a bit too high
Obar curls 115 X 12 105 X 8 95 X 6 bit challenging massive arm pumpage with vascularity though
Front squats, was the highlight of the night... 210 X 12, nice reps 190 X 8, 170 X 8 all very good reps but sucking wind...
Stiff legged deads 205 X 10 185 X 8 165 X 10 weight was a bit too high for what I was trying to do...
Finished with some standing calf raise ...

Pace was fast and furious and it was all business....
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Nice workout DW.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Sort of a mediocre workout yesterday, when planning with some of my weights I didn't take into account how much I would have to drop the weight to get higher reps in... so would have been decent but I found I was overdoing it on some exercises...

Again the routine is full body workout with double drops..

Lat Pulldown 165 X 12 150 X 8 135 X 6 a bit challenging for the first time out
Bench press 185 X 12 165 X 8 145 X 8 this went ok
L-Lateral raise 30 X 12 25 X 11 X 20 X 11 fine
Close grip bench 165 X 8 135 X 8 105 X 8 weight was a bit too high
Obar curls 115 X 12 105 X 8 95 X 6 bit challenging massive arm pumpage with vascularity though
Front squats, was the highlight of the night... 210 X 12, nice reps 190 X 8, 170 X 8 all very good reps but sucking wind...
Stiff legged deads 205 X 10 185 X 8 165 X 10 weight was a bit too high for what I was trying to do...
Finished with some standing calf raise ...

Pace was fast and furious and it was all business....
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nice workout Doug. Seems you lost some major strength since about 6 months ago, am I right on that?
 
John Smeton said:
nice workout Doug. Seems you lost some major strength since about 6 months ago, am I right on that?
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Some power but not major I am starting low around 70% and working my way back up. It's a different mode of training to save my joints some pain. I mean it just doesn't seem to be necessary to be pushing all the time. Plus this is high rep workouts strict form...
 
DreamWeaver said:
Some power but not major I am starting low around 70% and working my way back up. It's a different mode of training to save my joints some pain. I mean it just doesn't seem to be necessary to be pushing all the time. Plus this is high rep workouts strict form...
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I feel you i haven't done upper body in 5 weeks and starting back doing light.
 
That and his tempo is slower than before. He was using an explosive lifting style before and not each portion of the rep is more deliberate and powered through instead of exploded through. Making more use of the time under tension.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Some power but not major I am starting low around 70% and working my way back up. It's a different mode of training to save my joints some pain. I mean it just doesn't seem to be necessary to be pushing all the time. Plus this is high rep workouts strict form...
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I think that is probably the best approach to take. Doing great up in here DW!!
 
MrKleen73 said:
That and his tempo is slower than before. He was using an explosive lifting style before and not each portion of the rep is more deliberate and powered through instead of exploded through. Making more use of the time under tension.
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This is how I get my intensity now ... bringin the pain...


RickRock13 said:
I think that is probably the best approach to take. Doing great up in here DW!!
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Yah I was falling apart the other way....
 
MrKleen73 said:
That and his tempo is slower than before. He was using an explosive lifting style before and not each portion of the rep is more deliberate and powered through instead of exploded through. Making more use of the time under tension.
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I'm totally down with that, I do more concentrating, slower, burning style lifting now, less explosive (too hard on my joints), scared of injury!
 
ScottyDoc said:
I'm totally down with that, I do more concentrating, slower, burning style lifting now, less explosive (too hard on my joints), scared of injury!
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I agree with this. I got to be very careful with joints at my age and do alot more slower concentrated movements then trying to explode through them.
 
A_I_Sports_Nutrition said:
I agree with this. I got to be very careful with joints at my age and do alot more slower concentrated movements then trying to explode through them.
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As I get closer to 40, I can relate to having to take the movements slower and more controlled. If not I could sideline myself for a while
 
RickRock13 said:
As I get closer to 40, I can relate to having to take the movements slower and more controlled. If not I could sideline myself for a while
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Untill recently I was too focussed in on being a badazz and hoisting big weight....imagine that at over 50....time to smarten up. I've had people telling me this for years now...
 
DreamWeaver said:
Untill recently I was too focussed in on being a badazz and hoisting big weight....imagine that at over 50....time to smarten up. I've had people telling me this for years now...
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Just imagine if you knew what you know now at my age? Well... I know!!! LoL
 
ScottyDoc said:
Just imagine if you knew what you know now at my age? Well... I know!!! LoL
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Yep, but what are you going to do with that knowledge? Yoda says: Use it you must or fall by the wayside it will...
 
MrKleen73 said:
Yep, but what are you going to do with that knowledge? Yoda says: Use it you must or fall by the wayside it will...
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Falling by the waste-side it has!!! There is no try, try not..... DO!!!

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Brisk workout some challenging lifts but I figure I will be able to handle increases sure enough, Monica is back and eager to make progress ..despite her long layoff she looks damn good... Lot of potential there.

Workout was

Push Press 125 X12 105 X 10 85 X 12 remember these are drop sets
Db pullover 85 X 12, 75 X 12, 65 X 12
Reverse curl 80 X 12, 70 X 10, 60 X 10
Tbar row 160 X 12 150 X 10 140 X 8
Incline 165 X 12, 145 X 10, 135 X 8
Decline tri ext 85 X 12 75 X 12 65 X 12
Leg extension 120 X 12 100 X 10 8 X 10

Weighed in at 203.5 which is down 1.5 from before my vacatiion so I was able to trim a bit on vacation, I am down 4.5 lbs since my last pics I believe... I look pretty big though, Monica said she has never seen me look this good, she seemed quite shocked....
 
DreamWeaver said:
Brisk workout some challenging lifts but I figure I will be able to handle increases sure enough, Monica is back and eager to make progress ..despite her long layoff she looks damn good... Lot of potential there.

Workout was

Push Press 125 X12 105 X 10 85 X 12 remember these are drop sets
Db pullover 85 X 12, 75 X 12, 65 X 12
Reverse curl 80 X 12, 70 X 10, 60 X 10
Tbar row 160 X 12 150 X 10 140 X 8
Incline 165 X 12, 145 X 10, 135 X 8
Decline tri ext 85 X 12 75 X 12 65 X 12
Leg extension 120 X 12 100 X 10 8 X 10

Weighed in at 203.5 which is down 1.5 from before my vacatiion so I was able to trim a bit on vacation, I am down 4.5 lbs since my last pics I believe... I look pretty big though, Monica said she has never seen me look this good, she seemed quite shocked....
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whoa I missed it, whered you go on vacation? whatd you do any pictures? are they on facebook?

its not about weight , its about how you look. I am much happier than I am leaner than not leaner
 
John Smeton said:
whoa I missed it, whered you go on vacation? whatd you do any pictures? are they on facebook?

its not about weight , its about how you look. I am much happier than I am leaner than not leaner
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Went to Mont Tremblant no pics but speaking of being lean, I went down to the hot tubs and in the next tub were about 10 fireman on a reunion in there mid thirties, I was by for the best conditioned person there at 52 so I was pretty pleased. Lean gains has made it easy for me to stay lean, I have not lost any muscle that I have noticed and down 11.5 lbs in 7 weeks since I started.. Now on this lean bulk I should go up a bit but not an once will be fat and I bet I am leaner at the end of 5 weeks. Pics are a problem for us right now I am down about 2% from my last pics though.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Went to Mont Tremblant no pics but speaking of being lean, I went down to the hot tubs and in the next tub were about 10 fireman on a reunion in there mid thirties, I was by for the best conditioned person there at 52 so I was pretty pleased. Lean gains has made it easy for me to stay lean, I have not lost any muscle that I have noticed and down 11.5 lbs in 7 weeks since I started.. Now on this lean bulk I should go up a bit but not an once will be fat and I bet I am leaner at the end of 5 weeks. Pics are a problem for us right now I am down about 2% from my last pics though.
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Why are taking picts a problem right now???
 
ScottyDoc said:
Why are taking picts a problem right now???
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He can not find a camera with enough resolution to capture his awesomeness. It is completely understandable when you are the one and only OLD FUGGER!
 
MrKleen73 said:
He can not find a camera with enough resolution to capture his awesomeness. It is completely understandable when you are the one and only OLD FUGGER!
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Well said my friend, that was Fuggin Awesome!
 
MrKleen73 said:
He can not find a camera with enough resolution to capture his awesomeness. It is completely understandable when you are the one and only OLD FUGGER!
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:toofunny: Well said Kleen!! There can only be one OLD FUGGER!!
 
MrKleen73 said:
He can not find a camera with enough resolution to capture his awesomeness. It is completely understandable when you are the one and only OLD FUGGER!
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Yah there are several problems lighting, camera and photographer... when I do my update pics I will use my friend who is a good Photographer but it takes some organization. I will let the wife do my before pics... We just don't have a good spot to take pics...

ScottyDoc said:
Well said my friend, that was Fuggin Awesome!
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RickRock13 said:
:toofunny: Well said Kleen!! There can only be one OLD FUGGER!!
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There can only be one!!!
 
Well looking bigger and leaner this morning, cals go up again in a couple days to 3200 on wo days... I may try to get some more pics this weekend maybe, I will try the spot where I did my last pics but with this camera don't know if they will work out. It's frustrating to have dropped the fat and not have it show up on film because of poor photography...
 
DreamWeaver said:
Well looking bigger and leaner this morning, cals go up again in a couple days to 3200 on wo days... I may try to get some more pics this weekend maybe, I will try the spot where I did my last pics but with this camera don't know if they will work out. It's frustrating to have dropped the fat and not have it show up on film because of poor photography...
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sucks to hear about the pics.a good pic can do wonders for ya but a bad one can really you look pretty bad quick hopefully you get the camera thing down.
 
mich29 said:
sucks to hear about the pics.a good pic can do wonders for ya but a bad one can really you look pretty bad quick hopefully you get the camera thing down.
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Yah with the last pics I put up at least it was a good cameral even though the lighting sucked...
 
DreamWeaver said:
Yah with the last pics I put up at least it was a good cameral even though the lighting sucked...
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Just remember Chris's advice and get under some fluorescent lighting (better shadowing).
 
So I hammered my full body workout in about 35 minutes last night, all increases went well, the highlight of the night though was the really sweet Wheel of Death 10 and 5 reps. I thought I was going to get 11 but couldn't hold it and went flat on my face...

Weighed in at 203 so 3000 and 2400 have me losing weight still so I will go up to 3200 on wd's and will be ready to go to 3400 at a moments notice. I may even have to pick it up to 3600 before I am done.
 
Hey anybody have an opinion on this new follistatin peptide, supposed to be the real deal Follistatin 344, 98%
 
DreamWeaver said:
Hey anybody have an opinion on this new follistatin peptide, supposed to be the real deal Follistatin 344, 98%
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Yes, it is ridiculously priced BUT if it does as promised, it could save you the cost, pain and health issues of a 10-12 week cycle of Test/Deca for mass gain.
 
DreamWeaver said:
So I hammered my full body workout in about 35 minutes last night, all increases went well, the highlight of the night though was the really sweet Wheel of Death 10 and 5 reps. I thought I was going to get 11 but couldn't hold it and went flat on my face...

Weighed in at 203 so 3000 and 2400 have me losing weight still so I will go up to 3200 on wd's and will be ready to go to 3400 at a moments notice. I may even have to pick it up to 3600 before I am done.
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I am not surprised to hear you are still losing weight. I have to pack in well over 3000 now on workout days to continue to gain instead of recomp and on my low burn days, I need to be closer to 1500-2000 or I just drop weight with lean gains. I want to pack on as much mass as I can, it is just hard finding the space in my stomach for all the food!!!!
 
oufinny said:
I am not surprised to hear you are still losing weight. I have to pack in well over 3000 now on workout days to continue to gain instead of recomp and on my low burn days, I need to be closer to 1500-2000 or I just drop weight with lean gains. I want to pack on as much mass as I can, it is just hard finding the space in my stomach for all the food!!!!
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I have the space jut looking for the sweet spot....
 
oufinny said:
Yes, it is ridiculously priced BUT if it does as promised, it could save you the cost, pain and health issues of a 10-12 week cycle of Test/Deca for mass gain.
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Yah when you put it like that ... damn tempting... not enough testers for it yet though...
 
Wow I was a strong old basturd yesterday, what a stellar workout!! All increases made with more reps than before...I simply crushed it...

Lat Pulldown 170 X 12 155 X 12 140 X 10 crushed
Bench press 190 X 12 170 X 10 150 X 8 crushed
L-Lateral raise 32.5 X 12 25 X 12 X 20 X 12 crushed
Close grip bench 150 X 12 140 X 10 125 X 8
Obar curls 120 X 12 110 X 8 100 X 8 Massive pump I was looking huge by this time
Front squats, 215 X 12, 195 X 10, 175 X 9 damn near puked up a lung but I was an animal..
Stiff legged deads 210 X 12 190 X 8 170 X 10 Great finish

Bar of death 13 spectacular reps!!... at this time people were commenting on how much I had improved physically. I was wearing a spaghetti strap wife beater and I was looking big and cut some of the guys I thought were pretty big who dressed this way were not as big as I am to my surprise...I have definitely gotten bigger and leaner this past week though... feels fuggin good!! I feel like going lifting again today, I have to hold myself back from doing too much... it's on!!
 
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DreamWeaver said:
I have the space jut looking for the sweet spot....
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I certainly know all about that. This diet can put you gaining or losing easily just by moving a couple hundred cals ED. It is definetely all about finding the sweet spot. I know I'm getting close to mine with 3200/1800 going for recomp
 
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Thanks, hey do you have kids I don't recall you mentioining any....

RickRock13 said:
I certainly know all about that. This diet can put you gaining or losing easily just by moving a couple hundred cals ED. It is definetely all about finding the sweet spot. I know I'm getting close to mine with 3200/1800 going for recomp
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I am up to 3200 2400 and I seem to be about recomp level gaining size and still losing fat, I am ready to go higher any day now...
 
Getting the calories up and recomping? Sounds like some solid mass gains in there.

Are you still on track for a show this year?
 
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