Girlfriend and Steroids

dsade said:
Translation: Having a good looking, buff boyfriend makes her stock go up. Also fun for her to touch.
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LOL, never thought like this way... Actually she was recovering from her boob job/silicon implants surgery. So she stood almost all the time at home. I think she never really had any problem with steroids, its just some concern about my heatlh.
 
Lol, I think I was going out with my girlfriend for like 5 or 6 months when I flat out told her Ive taken steroids. I mean she always knew I was into bodybuilding and when I told her she was like well I kinda figured... lol I always talk to her about **** like what I have planned for a cycle and she has no idea what i'm talking about. I'm pretty sure she wants me to do more cycles cuz she's very supportive, only time she hates it is when the junk aint workin like it should. Lol
 
Have you tried X-Factor? I am currently finishing up my last week on my first Epi cycle and my results from Epi are very comparable to my cycles on X-Factor. If it were me, I would just not see my girl until I finished the cycle of M-Drol. Just tell her that you are visiting friends at school during those weekends you would normally see her and then after the cycle is finished buy her flowers and take her to an expensive restaraunt and apologize for not giving her your attention lately.... Honestly tho its not a big deal, you could be doing a lot worse things than steroids
 
spres444 said:
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or wait till the end of december and get that new dymethazine. ish is supposed to be like sdrol without the sides.
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Remember back when superdrol was supposed to have no sides...ah the memories...

anyway..

How bout Phera? Its (IMO) less suppressive, and makes me wanna hump the refrigerator (damned sexy frig)...
 
If she really loves you, I don't see why this would change with you taking steroids.

My wifey doesn't like to see me doing it either but I always tell her. She knows that errection and/ or libido problems can occur but she also knows this will only be temporary.

Don't ever let a girl tell you what to do. I mean talk about it, have a discussion but don't fight about it. At the end its YOU thats got to make the decision.

Ever thought about Halo? It gave me great gains and my libido was through the roof.

~abuleh
 
nephilim666 said:
beat me to it :P i was about to say if you liked havoc and have used it twice previously with good results then stacking it with the 1-t will only make it better. pct would be the same except i would use nolva at 40/30/20/10 versus 20x2 10x2
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Negative! 40mg Nolva is too high and unnecessary. Starting at 20 and tapering down to 10 should be enough. This isn't a sides-free drug here folks. More is not better.

If you are pursuaded to run higher levels of Nolva, then 30 should be max.

And OP, do you really think your g/f thinks steroids could be PILLS?! Based on her ignorance on the subject, she's probably linking steroids with needles, drug dealers, aggression, rage, and tiny penises. She has the media mindset.

That is to your advantage. If (when?) you run your oral and you gain size and if you g/f asks, "Are you using steroids?", you just say, "Hun, I'm a needle-free guy. I'm using a new product NutraPlanet." ;) For all she knows, anything you can get from a "GNC" is harmless and can't be steroids. Right? ;) ;)
 
Yeah im in the same boat as you...Only im gonna run an epistane pulse. Hopefully the girlfriend doesnt notice anything or she said "shed be real dissappointed"
 
papapumpsd said:
That is to your advantage. If (when?) you run your oral and you gain size and if you g/f asks, "Are you using steroids?", you just say, "Hun, I'm a needle-free guy. I'm using a new product NutraPlanet." ;) For all she knows, anything you can get from a "GNC" is harmless and can't be steroids. Right? ;) ;)
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Good point. I was home for Thanksgiving and a lot of my old friends commented jokingly about me using steroids. The g/f, (who worries alot, asked me about it later. She said I couldn't be on steroids because I would "look huge like those guys on tv, have small balls, and be mad all the time." AH! Havoc is great and ignorance is bliss.
 
P-Plex and havoc :D
 
MuscleBound1337 said:
Lol, I think I was going out with my girlfriend for like 5 or 6 months when I flat out told her Ive taken steroids. I mean she always knew I was into bodybuilding and when I told her she was like well I kinda figured... lol I always talk to her about **** like what I have planned for a cycle and she has no idea what i'm talking about. I'm pretty sure she wants me to do more cycles cuz she's very supportive, only time she hates it is when the junk aint workin like it should. Lol
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My x-gf wasn't really supportive, but she had no problems with it and respected my decision, just want me to be sure that it was safe. I even told her that if sometime i would go into injectables, she would have to inject for me, and she was fine with that!
 
i would tell her your rebounding from a diet if she asks why u got so big, i would also reccommend 7,8 benzoflavone from PP couple times a week during the cycle if shrinkage is that bad.
 
Has nothing to do with this girl, nothing to do w/ 'roids - or their absence: has EVERYTHING to do w/ what kind of life you want.

If you want a life full of lies, deception, hiding, feeling 'caught', getting caught, disappointment & breakups, now's not too early to start lying to a potential "partner" - might as well get used to the cheating life as soon as possible.

Or, you can be yourself, tell the truth & not try too hard to be a tuff-guy, and know that the one person you CAN'T lie to - besides yourself - is the person you most need to trust and stand by you.

Like they say in the movies: 'choose wisely'....
 
honestly if shes gonna break up wit ya over steroids shes a little immature if you ask me.

get some research, show you know what your doing.

if she doesnt accept it, and still is going to get upset..maybe shes nto the right one bro :cheers:
 
I am sorry you may not want to hear this but any woman that will give you an ultimatum like taht is not worth having. As if you lie, it will crush your trust, but if you don't do it you will never get past your natural genetic potential. You are young bro do you!!!

And if you wnat to know what makes me such an expert try getting a divorce as one of the reasons for inreconsilable differences. :thumbsup:
 
BodyWizard said:
Has nothing to do with this girl, nothing to do w/ 'roids - or their absence: has EVERYTHING to do w/ what kind of life you want.

If you want a life full of lies, deception, hiding, feeling 'caught', getting caught, disappointment & breakups, now's not too early to start lying to a potential "partner" - might as well get used to the cheating life as soon as possible.

Or, you can be yourself, tell the truth & not try too hard to be a tuff-guy, and know that the one person you CAN'T lie to - besides yourself - is the person you most need to trust and stand by you.

Like they say in the movies: 'choose wisely'....
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good advice. Just do your homework and show her you know what you are doing. Be a sales rep and sell her on it. After she sees all the hard work and dedication you put into learning about it and not just jumping in she should respect that. You are adults and shoule be able to have an adult discussion about it

You could go the route of lying and play it off like it is creatine but when she finds out its is 10x worse and also you are lying to ur GF.. the one person you are soupposed to be completely honest with

If you are in a serious realitionship with herand see a future with her then tell her
Or if you are just in it for the booty and just a GF for now, then hide it
 
girls that train are a lot easier to break the news to. girls that have been around gyms for a long time arent retarded (possibly naive) know that most huge guys in the gym are on steroids.

...leading me to say they are usually more open to the subject. no reason why they can get a boob job for a better appearance and us not be able to use steroids.....definite double standard right there
 
nosnmiveins said:
no reason why they can get a boob job for a better appearance and us not be able to use steroids.....definite double standard right there
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wow never thought of it that way.. good point!!
 
I explained to my girl friend how Havoc works and what it does. I told her about some of the stuff I would take with it and told her about PCT. It was all good until I told her it was a steroid, LOL! She didn't give a sh*t about the word androgen, then she hears the word steroid and trips! I had a little talk with her, and she hasn't brought it up since. She's going to start working out with me soon, and I'm going to buy some NO Shotgun for her. Nitric Oxide products scare her too lol! She will love it once she tries it, though. I give her a lot of information to read about supplements, but I'm not sure if any of it gets read.
 
don't worry, i will tell her any product i use and what it does... i just won't say "steroid"... lol....because ya know havoc is legal so therefore its not a steroid...right? right? lol

i've decided to just do 1-t solo. i want to see how its is by itself. my pct is sustain. got the info at the PP forums.
 
RemoteControl said:
don't worry, i will tell her any product i use and what it does... i just won't say "steroid"... lol....because ya know havoc is legal so therefore its not a steroid...right? right? lol

i've decided to just do 1-t solo. i want to see how its is by itself. my pct is sustain. got the info at the PP forums.
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Let us know how that PP stack works. I've always been interested in their products.
 
Lots of good advice here. IMO, dont say anything to her unless she brings it up. No need to confess to something you didnt do. My GF doesnt want me using "steroids", but I think she really just doesnt want me injecting stuff, that scares most people. Taking a pill is much "safer" in their eyes, even though it is more harmful.
 
thegodfather said:
Lots of good advice here. IMO, dont say anything to her unless she brings it up. No need to confess to something you didnt do. My GF doesnt want me using "steroids", but I think she really just doesnt want me injecting stuff, that scares most people. Taking a pill is much "safer" in their eyes, even though it is more harmful.
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Word! It's not like we go around telling women they shouldn't be doping with hormones daily... I'm talking about birth control. :nono:
 
my gf doesn't think i'm taking steroids she thinks they are just "booster pills"...shes always saying stop taking those stupid pills you don't need them
 
monsterbox said:
my gf doesn't think i'm taking steroids she thinks they are just "booster pills"...shes always saying stop taking those stupid pills you don't need them
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they all say that....yet when u get big and/or cut and they always want to touch u and show u off to their friends....:rolleyes:
 
its true, i remember when my wife was pregnant she kept asking me to stop lifting and i didnt understand why until she flat out told me she was afraid i would cheat on her becuase she would be getting fat and i would be getting freakier.
 
nephilim666 said:
its true, i remember when my wife was pregnant she kept asking me to stop lifting and i didnt understand why until she flat out told me she was afraid i would cheat on her becuase she would be getting fat and i would be getting freakier.
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So what did you do?
 
RemoteControl said:
I've previously done two Havoc cycles with OTC PCT and was very interested in doing an Mdol cycle of 10/20/20

5'9"
192 lbs
Age: 23

Anyway, i've got Nolva 10mg/pill on hand and everything. Basically sometimes i talk to the gf about steroids, bringing it up saying that "hey i bet that guy does steroids" yadda yadda yadda

She doesnt know that ive done 2 previous cycles and said that if i'm obviously interested in doing them because i mention them all the time.(shes right lol) She says if i ever did them she would break up with me.

So basically, is there anything i can do or add to an mdrol cycle (pp's sustain?) to reduce testicular shrinkage, if there is any? Is acne bad on cycle? I love her to death so breaking up with her to gain a few pounds is out of the question. She just doesnt understand, like most of the public, that if you are responsible with your support supplements that you will be fine.

Any suggestions?
Thanks.
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If you love her that much, then I wouldn't cycle. She gave you a blanket statement that no "grey area products" will get you out of. My wife has never made a statement that bold, but made it clear that if she finds syringes, or any related items, our relationship will be headed for some serious turmoil. So far I've kept up my end of the deal.
 
LilPsychotic said:
If you love her that much, then I wouldn't cycle. She gave you a blanket statement that no "grey area products" will get you out of. My wife has never made a statement that bold, but made it clear that if she finds syringes, or any related items, our relationship will be headed for some serious turmoil. So far I've kept up my end of the deal.
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then whats here end of the deal? i would want the power to request a BJ when and where i wanted :D
 
LilPsychotic said:
If you love her that much, then I wouldn't cycle. She gave you a blanket statement that no "grey area products" will get you out of. My wife has never made a statement that bold, but made it clear that if she finds syringes, or any related items, our relationship will be headed for some serious turmoil. So far I've kept up my end of the deal.
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Dude, he's not using steroids... He's using lotion!
 
haha if i had to give up juice i would want more then a bj! wtf? i wud want her plus all her friends plus all her friends friends plus their moms and sisters and cusions all at once! ALL THE TIME!!!!
 
nephilim666 said:
haha if i had to give up juice i would want more then a bj! wtf? i wud want her plus all her friends plus all her friends friends plus their moms and sisters and cusions all at once! ALL THE TIME!!!!
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i used the BJ comment as an example. i would love to have what u mentioned....plus my gf has twin 18 year old sisters :D:food:
 
RemoteControl said:
hmmm... by primordial right? the transdermal?
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If your worried about shutdown, this may be worse than SD. You'll be worse than a limp noodle in approximately 3 days. If your hell bent on SD, why not do a 3 on/ 4 off type of deal, or vice versa. SD is good to pulse, the gains will be good but not crazy, and if you do it right you will have a nice little rebound effect for your weekend fukc marathons. You can have the best of both worlds, my friend.
 
nosnmiveins said:
then whats here end of the deal? i would want the power to request a BJ when and where i wanted :D
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A BJ? Hell, I'm lucky if I get laid once a week. Let me give you some advice buddy, STAY SINGLE. It doesn't get better, only worse. If I ever become rich, we are buying seperate houses. It all relates back to my theory of life, if it weren't for a need for sex, men and women would have nothing to do witheach other. And I stand by that theory!
 
its true except my wife cooks me 6 meals a day and i am grateful for that! if not for her i would be eating macdonalds and furniture.
 
LilPsychotic said:
A BJ? Hell, I'm lucky if I get laid once a week. Let me give you some advice buddy, STAY SINGLE. It doesn't get better, only worse. If I ever become rich, we are buying seperate houses. It all relates back to my theory of life, if it weren't for a need for sex, men and women would have nothing to do witheach other. And I stand by that theory!
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You forgot to mention love... :nutkick:
 
UnrealMachine said:
The level of brainwashing we've been put through by the government and media regarding drugs is a TRAGEDY.

Some levels of AAS use should be covered as much as possible like illegal injectables, but PH/DS are technically legal i think that should be more out in the open to discuss... Unless you are arguing with a bonehead, eventually the truth will prevail. Unfortunately the bullshit and lies about steroids and drugs in general are rooted pretty deep in most people's heads and they may be too stubborn to reason with.
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Honestly - You girl probably would not consider any of what your considering as "steroids" like others have said - most see Steroids as injectable only and think that if it can be bought over the counter it cant be bad for you or it wouldn't be legal. I would be very upfront with her, show her what you are taking, hell even order it with her present. This way she feels she was a part of the decision and will see that you are using a legit product.

I have done a few cycles since being married and my wife was supportive initially but over last couple years has become opposed to using injectables. It's funny tho, she has ZERO issue with anything I have used or considered that I can buy online.... LMAO cracks me up cuz I feel like a million bucks on test and such, very little sides especially with right PCT. No the orals - definitely feel the sides and are much worse on me as far as liver and libido with some. I tell her this and she's like well why arent they legal then.......:frustrate
 
Dude she is probably just worried cause they are illegal. Im sure she wont mind if she knows they are legal and if u explain it to her
 
LilPsychotic said:
If your worried about shutdown, this may be worse than SD. You'll be worse than a limp noodle in approximately 3 days. If your hell bent on SD, why not do a 3 on/ 4 off type of deal, or vice versa. SD is good to pulse, the gains will be good but not crazy, and if you do it right you will have a nice little rebound effect for your weekend fukc marathons. You can have the best of both worlds, my friend.
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eric on the PP forums said that libido and lethargy would not be a problem with a 4 pump a day, 4 week cycle.
 
RemoteControl said:
eric on the PP forums said that libido and lethargy would not be a problem with a 4 pump a day, 4 week cycle.
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Well, I've taken the oral form of this derm, and it shut me down within 3 days. Dermal absorption for this compound is much higher, so at least for me I'm certain it will have the same effect.
 
1-T CYCLE! Will be logging this soon... stay tuned for link!!!

On:
6 weeks 1-T (2 bottles) @ 5 pumps ED in morning.
Sustain Alpha @ 3 days on, 3 days off

PCT:
Sustain Alpha @ 5 days on 2 days off.
Endoamp
Toco-8

Look for the log!!
:bb3:
But yeah, back to the topic of discussion...
 
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