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Getting My Competitive Edge with CEL! (M1,4ADD and P-Mag) [CEL Sponsored]

I think a lot of people still don't know that this is a new batch with a legit source.

There were a lot of companies that never corrected the problem 2 years ago like you guys did. So I suspect that they're just overgeneralizing saying that all M14 is still bunk, when this is obviously legit and potent.

You may be right. I'm really not sure what to do to change that though. We have posted lab reports and there have been alot of positive logs done on it.

I think it is one of the most overlooked ph's available in terms of quality size gains.
 
You may be right. I'm really not sure what to do to change that though. We have posted lab reports and there have been alot of positive logs done on it.

I think it is one of the most overlooked ph's available in terms of quality size gains.

I've always thought the sales site should post links to logs on the product. I think BN used to do that with links to relevant forum threads. Oh well, I suspect that it's gonna sell out everywhere eventually and still bring in profit in the long run.
 
You may be right. I'm really not sure what to do to change that though. We have posted lab reports and there have been alot of positive logs done on it.

I think it is one of the most overlooked ph's available in terms of quality size gains.

I always thought that this product wasn't very cost effective, which is why I hadn't bought any earlier. The success of this log encouraged me to double check the price on m14add and I bought a couple bottles at about $23 each. Not a bad deal at all.
 
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Day 14 of PCT- Chest
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Supplements-
Formestane-No more formestane (didnt run out, just end of use) :hmmm:
Supress C- 2 squirts at 7a, 2 squirts at 8p
PCT Assist-3 caps with breakfast, 3 caps with dinner
SNS Liver Assist-3 caps with breakfast, 3 caps with dinner
Orange triad, 3 g flax seed oil-with breakfast and dinner
SNS Inhibit E-2 caps with bedtime meal
Universal Shock Therapy, Storm, Intra Aid-Pre/Intra Workout

[SIZE=+2]239.0 lbs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+2]Chest[/SIZE]

BB Incline Press-245x10, 275x8, 315x8, 365x4

Flat BB Press-315x8, 315x8, 275x10, 225x15

DB Flys-10x50's, 10x50's, 8x60's

Dips-10, 10

Thoughts
Had a really strong and nice chest workout today, pushed alot of weight for as low as my rest times were. Done with formestane today, I am gonna miss that stuff. Still feeling great, libido is a little low, but weight is stayin on nicely.
 
Quick Update-

I will be putting my arms workout up today after I complete it. I started to do Hams/Calves on Friday, but used a different height box than normal for SLDL's, and as a result dropped a 275lb BB across my big toes...that pretty much put an end to that workout. I took yesterday off because I took a break from discipline and went and tailgated for the OSU v. Wisc. game. It was a good time, I needed a little break from being so serious all the time to preserve my sanity.
 
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Day 17 of PCT- Arms/Forearms/Abs
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Supplements-
Supress C- 2 squirts at 7a, 2 squirts at 8p
PCT Assist-3 caps with breakfast, 3 caps with dinner
SNS Liver Assist-3 caps with breakfast, 3 caps with dinner
Orange triad, 3 g flax seed oil-with breakfast and dinner
SNS Inhibit E-2 caps with bedtime meal
Universal Shock Therapy, Storm, Intra Aid-Pre/Intra Workout

[SIZE=+2]239.0 lbs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+2]Arms/Forearms/Abs[/SIZE]

BB Skull Crushers-95x10, 115x10, 145x8, 115x12

Chins (2 neutral, 2 underhand close)-8, 8, 7, 7

V-Bar Pressdowns-10x210(stack), 10x210, 10x210, 10x210

EZ Bar Curls-10x75, 10x85, 8x95, 21's with 75

Rope Pulley Extensions-12x60, 12x70
Superset with
High Pulley Cable Curls-12x60, 12x60

Reverse EZ Bar Curls-12x70, 10x70, 12x60

BB Wrist Curls-12x85, 12x85, 12x85

Ab Work

Thoughts
After a weekend of eating like ****, I felt like absolute **** before going to the gym. Ended up havin a really good workout. Still feeling good, like 10 more days of PCT.
 
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Day 19 of PCT- Shoulders
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Supplements-
Supress C- 2 squirts at 7a, 2 squirts at 8p
PCT Assist-3 caps with breakfast, 3 caps with dinner
SNS Liver Assist-3 caps with breakfast, 3 caps with dinner
Orange triad, 3 g flax seed oil-with breakfast and dinner
SNS Inhibit E-2 caps with bedtime meal
Universal Shock Therapy, Storm, Intra Aid-Pre/Intra Workout

[SIZE=+2]240.0 lbs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+2]Shoulders[/SIZE]

BB Clean and Press-175x6, 185x5, 205x4, 225x3......225x1 floor to ceiling for 3 sets

BB Shoulder Press-185x12, 225x10, 245x8

DB Side Lateral-8x30's, 10x30's, 8x30's
Superset with
Rear DB Laterals-8x30's, 10x25's, 10x25's

Cable Upright Rows-110x10, 125x10, 135x8

Thoughts
Definitely do not have the explosive lifts down like I did in high school. The clean and presses were a struggle, but it felt good to do them after so long. Will be throwing in more of stuff like that from now on. Still feelin good. Sex drive is back up to normal, and I feel overall pretty recovered.
 
So how do u like Supress-C? It sounds like u LOVE Formestane curious how u like the SC. Might try a similar OTC PCT with my P-Mag run.
 
So how do u like Supress-C? It sounds like u LOVE Formestane curious how u like the SC. Might try a similar OTC PCT with my P-Mag run.

Loving formestane is an understatement. I like the suppress C quite a bit as well, I think it has definitely helped with catabolism, maybe even leaned me out a bit, but with my high food intake at the moment it's hard tellin. Definitely not magical, but I think it for sure has a part in a good PCT.

EDIT- I say it has helped with catabolism because this is the first PCT I've ever run where I haven't lost so much as an ounce, I've even gained a pound thus far.
 
Loving formestane is an understatement. I like the suppress C quite a bit as well, I think it has definitely helped with catabolism, maybe even leaned me out a bit, but with my high food intake at the moment it's hard tellin. Definitely not magical, but I think it for sure has a part in a good PCT.

EDIT- I say it has helped with catabolism because this is the first PCT I've ever run where I haven't lost so much as an ounce, I've even gained a pound thus far.

Lol ya I plan on buying some Formestane and I have the supplies to make my own 5 gram bottle. Ya ur goals were def a bulk and it has showed. Looking like a straight beast. With the amount of food u have to be taking in any bit of leaning out is amazing.

Dang sounds like a great PCT to me.
 
Lol ya I plan on buying some Formestane and I have the supplies to make my own 5 gram bottle. Ya ur goals were def a bulk and it has showed. Looking like a straight beast. With the amount of food u have to be taking in any bit of leaning out is amazing.

Dang sounds like a great PCT to me.

My only alteration would have been to use a different AI than ATD. I think 6-oxo would have complemented Formestane better. Formestane at full dose with 50mg of ATD seemed to negate, or at least balance out, the sex drive death that ATD causes, but once it was half dose form and 50 mg ATD it went from thru the roof, to normal, to none. While some might say "it's only your sex drive", I believe that same drive can really lead to a more aggressive and intense workout too. I'm interested to see what kind of balancing act there is between 25mg ATD and PCT assist in 2 days, to see how that goes. Keep in mind that I also have a pretty poor reaction as far as ATD goes, so my results may not be typical.
 
Tomahawk,
prepare for a battle with formestane to get it into solution if you've never done it yourself before. Do your homework so you don't waste your hard to find form powder.

Escholar,
my experience is that a light dose of ATD (25mg) is a nice boost in libido and strength/gym aggression. Anything more than that hinders libido and in terms of gym, I agree that it goes hand in hand.

6oxo/trione is a double edged sword with formestane. I've ran that stack with fantastic results (hint mix 1.5g trione with 1.5g form in TD carrier for convenient badass stack).

Now the downside. Coming from someone with a mild case of gyno, form crushes the lump... GONE. 6oxo slightly aggravates it (just ran it about a month ago). 6oxo is poor estrogen control for pct IMO.

Just giving both sides of the story.
 
Ya I will def do plenty of reading before I think about making my own Form TD. Will most likely get some CEL Formestane 1st to try out.
 
Tomahawk,
prepare for a battle with formestane to get it into solution if you've never done it yourself before. Do your homework so you don't waste your hard to find form powder.

Escholar,
my experience is that a light dose of ATD (25mg) is a nice boost in libido and strength/gym aggression. Anything more than that hinders libido and in terms of gym, I agree that it goes hand in hand.

6oxo/trione is a double edged sword with formestane. I've ran that stack with fantastic results (hint mix 1.5g trione with 1.5g form in TD carrier for convenient badass stack).

Now the downside. Coming from someone with a mild case of gyno, form crushes the lump... GONE. 6oxo slightly aggravates it (just ran it about a month ago). 6oxo is poor estrogen control for pct IMO.

Just giving both sides of the story.

Good to know. Makes me look forward to 25mg starting tomorrow. Thanks for the info, you really seem to know your ****.
 
Tomahawk,
prepare for a battle with formestane to get it into solution if you've never done it yourself before. Do your homework so you don't waste your hard to find form powder.

Escholar,
my experience is that a light dose of ATD (25mg) is a nice boost in libido and strength/gym aggression. Anything more than that hinders libido and in terms of gym, I agree that it goes hand in hand.

6oxo/trione is a double edged sword with formestane. I've ran that stack with fantastic results (hint mix 1.5g trione with 1.5g form in TD carrier for convenient badass stack).

Now the downside. Coming from someone with a mild case of gyno, form crushes the lump... GONE. 6oxo slightly aggravates it (just ran it about a month ago). 6oxo is poor estrogen control for pct IMO.

Just giving both sides of the story.

Thanks for the info btw and good location :cheers:
 
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Day 21 of PCT- Quads/Calves
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Supplements-
Supress C- 2 squirts at 7a, 2 squirts at 8p
PCT Assist-3 caps with breakfast, 3 caps with dinner
SNS Liver Assist-3 caps with breakfast, 3 caps with dinner
Orange triad, 3 g flax seed oil-with breakfast and dinner
SNS Inhibit E-1 cap with bedtime meal
Universal Shock Therapy, Storm, Intra Aid-Pre/Intra Workout

[SIZE=+2]240.0 lbs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+2]Quads/Calves[/SIZE]

BB Squats-275x12, 275x12, 315x10, 365x8

Leg Press-810x15, 900x12, 900x10

Feet together Hack Squats-12x140, 12x140, 10x180

Leg Extensions-150x12, 170x12, 170x12

Donkey Calf Machine-4 sets with 90lbs to failure

Thoughts
I have pretty much felt like **** the last 2 days, I was gonna go do legs last night, but I got to the gym, and basically turned right back around and left, because I felt so sick. Called off work today and rested all morning, and dragged myself to the gym this afternoon to get a light and easy leg workout in, and hopefully sweat out whatever has been ailing me. Dunno if that is quite what happened, but I'm feeling a little better.
 
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Day 24 of PCT- Back
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Supplements-
Supress C- 2 squirts at 7a, 2 squirts at 8p
PCT Assist-3 caps with breakfast, 3 caps with dinner
SNS Liver Assist-3 caps with breakfast, 3 caps with dinner
Orange triad, 3 g flax seed oil-with breakfast and dinner
SNS Inhibit E-1 cap with bedtime meal
Universal Shock Therapy, Storm, Intra Aid-Pre/Intra Workout

[SIZE=+2]240.5 lbs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+2]Back[/SIZE]

Wide Grip Pulldowns-150x10, 150x10, 160x10, 180x8

BB Yates Rows-185x8, 185x8, 155x12

Neutral Grip Pullups-8, 8, 8

Wide Grip T-Bar Rows-10x90, 10x90, 10x100

DB Rows-10x70, 10x70, 10x70

Ab Work

Thoughts-
Starting to lose motivation a bit. Going into the gym is starting to feel a bit more like a chore than the fun time it used to be. So I am gonna back off this week a bit, just go in and do some light full body workouts and some cardio, just to stay active. Not at all a reflection of how PCT is going or anything, everything is going great....just need a little sanity break.
 
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Day 31 of PCT-Upper Power
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Supplements-
PCT Assist-3 caps with breakfast, 3 caps with dinner
SNS Liver Assist-3 caps with breakfast, 3 caps with dinner
Orange triad, 3 g flax seed oil-with breakfast and dinner
SNS Inhibit E-1 cap with bedtime meal
Universal Shock Therapy, Storm, Intra Aid-Pre/Intra Workout

[SIZE=+2]240.3 lbs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+2]Upper Power[/SIZE]

BB Flat Bench-315x5, 335x5, 355x5, 365x5

BB Bent Over Row-225x5, 225x5, 245x5, 245x5

BB Military-225x5, 225x5, 245x4, 245x4

BB Curls-105x5, 105x5, 105x5

BB Skull Crushers-135x5, 135x5, 155x4

Thoughts
Back at it with a new split, here's how it goes:

Upper Body strength/power focus
Lower Body strength/power focus
Off
Push volume/rep focus
Pull volume/rep focus
Legs volume/rep focus
Off

Since this is the first day of the new split, and last day of PCT, this will be the last day of this log as well.
 
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Final Review​
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Before Stats
Weight-219lbs...............240.4 lbs [SIZE=+3]+ 21.4lbs[/SIZE]

Best Big 3 Lifts
Bench Press-355x3...............405x2
Squats-375x3........................405x5, 435x2
Deadlifts-455x2......................495x2

[SIZE=+2]Thoughts on the cycle[/SIZE]

Best cycle I have ever run, without question. 3 big reasons why:
1. low side effects
2. huge weight/strength gain
3. kept every single ounce I gained

I don't know what else to say about this cycle, I grew and put on more mass than I ever have before, got freakishly stronger, and kept the mass and the strength. I can't really rate the products separately, since everything was stacked, but I can point out two things:

[SIZE=+1]CEL Formestane[/SIZE]
Wow. This stuff is awesome. Put my libido and gym drive through the roof, made PCT bearable, and I feel helped me even gain a little bit into PCT. Absolutely love this stuff now.


[SIZE=+1]M1,4ADD[/SIZE]
This stuff kicked in for me after like 3 days. It put my appetite through the roof, I was constantly starving. Gave my strength a huge boost, and when you are lifting heavy and eating like crazy, of course gains will soon follow. Great compound here, very underrated and underhyped.

[SIZE=+3]I want to thank CEL for giving me the opportunity to represent their products, and thank everyone for following along.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+2]If there is something here you want more info on, or something you want to see further explained, or any questions, feel free to PM me or just post up here.[/SIZE]
 
Very nice log here indeed, I'm still catching up but from what i've gather so far this cycle really treated you nicely with those type of gains, I got those same CEL products in my stash and will definitely consider running the same. well, considering you logged this in 4 forums major kudos for the effort, I guess CEL really got their moneys worth with this log :D
Back to reading the remaining
 
Very nice log here indeed, I'm still catching up but from what i've gather so far this cycle really treated you nicely with those type of gains, I got those same CEL products in my stash and will definitely consider running the same. well, considering you logged this in 4 forums major kudos for the effort, I guess CEL really got their moneys worth with this log :D
Back to reading the remaining

Thanks man, I just wanted to make sure CEL didn't regret handing over all that product, so I wanted to get them as much exposure as possible. Let me know what you think when you are done looking thru the rest of it.
 
For anyone following this log and interested in M1,4ADD, I just wanted to let them know that it is available now at some places for 19.95 per bottle until it is completely sold out.

We will not be making anymore, so once its gone, its gone.
 
For anyone following this log and interested in M1,4ADD, I just wanted to let them know that it is available now at some places for 19.95 per bottle until it is completely sold out.

We will not be making anymore, so once its gone, its gone.

:32: It is SOOOO tempting!
 
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