You think you might have tape worms?
You can get pills that kill them off in one dose! you gotta **** them out though lol
You can get pills that kill them off in one dose! you gotta **** them out though lol
No, but you can MASK it with melting CHOCOLATEi'm scared of coconut, since i hate the taste. does the coconut milk taste different? i've never tried it plain - only when its masked in curry.
You think you might have tape worms?
You can get pills that kill them off in one dose! you gotta **** them out though lol
now there's a thought! i'll give this a go, and see what i can get from it. thanks.No, but you can MASK it with melting CHOCOLATE
yeah, there is something wrong if u take in 6600 calories...i am 190 lbs at 5'10, lean, and i only take in like 4000... We should call you Super Ecto. and u have to wear a cape.
my diet is kinda nuts right now. let me preface it with i'm an ecto, so fat gain is not a concern. i've been bulking for a couple years now, with no breaks, and am at 10.5% body fat right now. even drinking a liter of 1/2 and 1/2 a day i've never broken 12% body fat.
my diet :
breakfast - 5 eggs, two bowls of cereal (organic version of honey bunches of oats) with whole milk, two cups of coffee with three cups of 1/2 and 1/2 = 1900 calories
snack - peanut butter - 2 tbsp = 180 calories
snack - string cheese = 90 calories
lunch - two double cheeseburgers = 800 calories
pre workout - 50g of protein, 120g of carbs = 650 calories
post workout - 50g of protein, 120g of carbs = 650 calories
snack - peanut butter - 2 tbsp = 180 calories
snack - string cheese = 90 calories
dinner - 8oz buffalo or chicken + veggies + rice = 400 calories (est.)
snack - two servings of peanut butter (4 tbsp) = 360 calories
snack - string cheese = 90 calories
bedtime meal - 6-8 oz steak - no veggies or carbs = 280 calories (i'm guessing here)
also throughout the day i drink 1/2 a gallon of whole milk (1000+ calories), and i don't count the calories of canola and olive oil i cook with, since most of them are left in the pan.
my calories might not look clean now, but with the exception of string cheese and the pre/post workout, everything i eat is organic, and i cook all my meals at home, in either olive or canola oil.
i've lived in a few third world countries, so its possible that i have tapeworms. i gain about 2 pounds per month, and obviously 10% of that is fat.
Agreed.i dont think soreness is a good indicator of effectiveness.
no clue. that's my bulking dietThat's insane man.
What's your BMR?
thanks PF and GJ!Agreed.
This is the first time I've checked out those transformation pics suncloud. Very awesome! Very motivating for fellow ectos.
that's the best thing about an ectoWow, the transformation pics are amazing. I'm an ecto gaining weight (16 pounds so far) with only 1% increase in body fat on a dirty bulk. However, I do know in order for me to get to the level of suncloud I will need to change my diet at some point. Notes have been taken!
My diet is depressing consiting of fast food, pizza, chinese, and frozen dinners. Thank the lord I'm an ecto.
p.s. - I don't advise anyone to eat the way I do. It's unrealistic, dumb, and very ignorant of myself to be doing :nutkick:
*Gah as I eat blueberry poptarts*
now that's a goal my brotha!Everything in this thread has been extremely helpful for me for several months. As an ecto taking back up to 4500 cals a day (approx 100g fat, over 500g carbs and 300g protein on workout days) I constantly look back to this when I stop growing. I still haven't figured out why its so hard to grow at a decent pace, but thats what being an ecto is all about. Im gonna try to match sunclouds before and after pics at some point, only itll be shirtless as Ive maintained under 7% body fat this whole time.
You wish has been granted. This will help me a lot. I thought I was eating a lot...that's only because I've been anorexic...so eating normal seems like a lot, haha.good post man i wish i read this when i first started liftin ...hopefully some other noob can get to it
glad to help. i did the same thing when i started. diet was around 2k, then i started hitting the gym, and adding in protein shakes. i always wondered why i wasn't gaining any size - i mean there was 500 calories in that shake - surely that would do something. little did i realize it was quality of calories, and the fact that i probably burned so many calories at the gym, there was nothing left to bulk off. you live, you learn, and hope nobody else will fall into that trapYou wish has been granted. This will help me a lot. I thought I was eating a lot...that's only because I've been anorexic...so eating normal seems like a lot, haha.
Great post OP.
that just makes progress all the sweeter - overcoming major roadblocks keep it up my brotha.Thanks suncloud.
But I didn't just mean I don't eat enough, I mean I've actually been anorexic and bulimic before...so my nutritional values are kinda ****ed up. I always knew I loved protein though! haha
thanks bonscott i hope everything in your life is coming together a little bit more every day.This is a great thread, obviously helping many. So, my question is, when are you gonna become a rep Suncloud!!???
my diet is kinda nuts right now. let me preface it with i'm an ecto, so fat gain is not a concern. i've been bulking for a couple years now, with no breaks, and am at 10.5% body fat right now. even drinking a liter of 1/2 and 1/2 a day i've never broken 12% body fat.
my diet :
breakfast - 5 eggs, two bowls of cereal (organic version of honey bunches of oats) with whole milk, two cups of coffee with three cups of 1/2 and 1/2 = 1900 calories
snack - peanut butter - 2 tbsp = 180 calories
snack - string cheese = 90 calories
lunch - two double cheeseburgers = 800 calories
pre workout - 50g of protein, 120g of carbs = 650 calories
post workout - 50g of protein, 120g of carbs = 650 calories
snack - peanut butter - 2 tbsp = 180 calories
snack - string cheese = 90 calories
dinner - 8oz buffalo or chicken + veggies + rice = 400 calories (est.)
snack - two servings of peanut butter (4 tbsp) = 360 calories
snack - string cheese = 90 calories
bedtime meal - 6-8 oz steak - no veggies or carbs = 280 calories (i'm guessing here)
also throughout the day i drink 1/2 a gallon of whole milk (1000+ calories), and i don't count the calories of canola and olive oil i cook with, since most of them are left in the pan.
my calories might not look clean now, but with the exception of string cheese and the pre/post workout, everything i eat is organic, and i cook all my meals at home, in either olive or canola oil.
i've lived in a few third world countries, so its possible that i have tapeworms. i gain about 2 pounds per month, and obviously 10% of that is fat.
i don't think my body ever "starves", but you're entitled to your opinion.wtf are you eating that much at breakfast for? your body scrambles to store/use the 2k cals in the 1st 3 hours of the day, then starves, then again overloaded with cheeseburgers, then starves the rest of the day?
wtf are you eating that much at breakfast for? your body scrambles to store/use the 2k cals in the 1st 3 hours of the day, then starves, then again overloaded with cheeseburgers, then starves the rest of the day?
Hahahaha.....i don't think my body ever "starves", but you're entitled to your opinion.
the excess calories at breakfast is because i usually wake up hungry, and putting down those calories for breakfast isn't that hard to do.
i think i just kept adding in food by roughly 500 calorie increments every week until i was satisfied with my caloric intake.Hahahaha.....
Its his middle of the nite "workouts" that wear him out so he when he wakes up he has to replenish those cals! :laugh: JK Bradda!
Ya i dont think his body ever starves, thats for sure! Keep doing whats been working for ya bro heem!
No to fig out how to eat that many cals in a day???? Siiigh..... :burnout:
i drink my milk throughout the day - there's no set time. i buy 2 gallons at a time, and they last 4 days right now, i'm trying to cut my calories back to maintenance due to knee issues. adding 50% to your natural size (where your body wants to be) till now has left my knees a little tender, so from here its just maintaining what i've got. i can loose fat, switch over to a strength routine, so the work never ends, the goals just changeWhen do you drink your half gallon of milk? is some of that between breakfast and lunch? Because theres 2 things I would like to say that may help you: you actually do need to move some of your breakfast calories to your snacks (for example: one cup of half and half with breakfast, one with your first snack and one with your second). That would keep you more anabolic until lunch. The second thing is that you may want to add a shake during the night. I know it sounds crazy, but you wake up less hungry and more anabolic if you have, for example, 8oz of milk and a half to a whole scoop of whey in a shake to drink when you wake up to take a piss at night. If youre drinking enough water, you should have to get up anyways, and this will make night a more anabolic time. I wake up less sore the day after workouts now because Ive added this.
now i have to find my maintenance calories, which i've been trying to exceed by ridiculous margins. my most recent pic is around 3 weeks old, but here's me at 196 or so.Yeah man, spend a month or so cutting, which will not only make your knees happier, it will probably make someone whos put on as much muscle as you have look pretty ridiculous with your shirt off. Cutting down to somewhere between 4% and 8% bf will probably do wonders for you. That being said, I would take a week or so off lifting to let your knees recover a little, then get back to business.
I have no idea how much you know about cutting up, but theres tons of articles and posts about it everywhere. You'll probably really enjoy it when its all said and done.
I ****ing love T-Bar Rows!
what's your age at now?dunno...when i was 15 i guess my estrogen got too high or something. they put me on tamoxifen and then femara, but the tissue had already developed...****ing sucks.
Especially because i'm naturally skinny, so it sticks out like a sore thumb.
Check if you are gluten intolerant. (simple blood test)now there's a thought! i'll give this a go, and see what i can get from it. thanks.