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Considering your not a newbie to benefit from placebo, to gain 12lbs is very impressive. did bodyfat change? 217 at 8% is no slouch.
one of the aspects I really appreciate, the gaining while leaning, approximately 10% upon startingConsidering your not a newbie to benefit from placebo, to gain 12lbs is very impressive. did bodyfat change? 217 at 8% is no slouch.
That was pretty manly.
And this is where the fd shines for alot of people..in higher reps. This is pretty strong. Better than I'd get for sure.Then did this...
http://youtu.be/UFdjbp7XNm0
Both videos are 10 pounds more than last week and two reps more than last week! **** works
First I would recommend against a rapid cut. It's unhealthy and often your body rebels against it. You'll also for sure lose a large portion of muscle. I would recommend a long...16 to 20 week cut so you only need to lose approx 1 lb per week. At this rate you can comfortably cut and really.minimize muscle loss.read through a lot of reports/info on this originally when i scooped up my pre sale stash. X months later with an addition to the family, finally about to try it lol.
i know the conventional wisdom is to cut slow but i have no plan for that. im going to cut hard and fast and try to drop about 25lbs or so which would put me around 215 and hopefully cut up. going to use ostarine to help mitigate muscle loss, and wondering whats best use for the follidrone.
A-throw it in with the ostarine on my cut.
B-throw it in mid-late cycle of some good stuff after im done cutting and recuperate lost cutting gains that way by maximizing the cycle.
i obviously will need whatever help i can get since i dont plan on cutting "smartly." but i dont want to waste the potential of follidrone either. although any significant fat decrease/muscle retention wouldnt be a waste to me personally. any anecdotal/obvious answers to using it in this manner?
well it will likely be more like 2.something lbs per week, after initial carb bloat drops off a nice chunk. i really dont see the justification for losing 1lb a week when i know i gain a lot more being able to bulk than i will lose cutting....which the key detail is here that im not natty. essentially, imo, i feel like theres more merit in minimizing time with a calorie deficit than there is worrying about muscle lost when i know i can gain it back easily. if not for any other reason than i hate cutting and the timing of my next run being when it is.First I would recommend against a rapid cut. It's unhealthy and often your body rebels against it. You'll also for sure lose a large portion of muscle. I would recommend a long...16 to 20 week cut so you only need to lose approx 1 lb per week. At this rate you can comfortably cut and really.minimize muscle loss.
But it's up to you of course.
Follidrone will help you retain muscle. Make sure your test levels are high. Follidrone 2 caps every day 30 min before training and about the same time on non training days.
Make sure to keep protein very high. 2g per lb weight.
Drink 1 to 2 gal water daily.
Take a solid multi vitamin, extra c, fish oil etc.
Lots of meat and veggies. Fats sre also fine....cut cals from carbs.
No more baked treats my ass lol, better get on some Chef Bob recipes lol. They help keep binging to a minimum lolwell it will likely be more like 2.something lbs per week, after initial carb bloat drops off a nice chunk. i really dont see the justification for losing 1lb a week when i know i gain a lot more being able to bulk than i will lose cutting....which the key detail is here that im not natty. essentially, imo, i feel like theres more merit in minimizing time with a calorie deficit than there is worrying about muscle lost when i know i can gain it back easily. if not for any other reason than i hate cutting and the timing of my next run being when it is.
also keep in mind, ostarine is specifically being tested for muscle wasting, although in different circumstances, i feel this is one aspect of use that people overlook when talking about it.
im not telling you that youre wrong, only explaining my thought on this to gauge how questionable i may sound lol. perhaps i should re evaluate my mind set.
well ill be throwing in whatever random products i have been hoarding away, but overall my test is likely to be slightly supressed due to osta, hopefully that wont impact the use of folli but my guess is it will be negligible. but i think i will pair those 2 together.
and yes... no more baked treats and double sized potato servings. it will be quite the b word.
at first i was like...is that a fat joke im really not that fat lmao...then i read the rest and was like aw yeayahh..lol touche man, good call.No more baked treats my ass lol, better get on some Chef Bob recipes lol. They help keep binging to a minimum lol
zing. guess my mind is made up then, and fortunately ive got the right compounds to do it with. maybe ill report back with results from this stack, i know ill lose some muscle but if its somewhat minimal im sure it will appeal to people as i know im not the only one that despises the cutting process.(-)-epicatechin/Follidrone is being studied for muscle wasting diseases as well
Its also been shown in studies to increase metabolism and fat loss.
Osta and Follidrone should be a great combo for cutting.
thanks for the info.. yeah I know, i was able to pick up 5 bottles so i have a little stocked up...Well, since you know that Formeron is discontinued, that will be a short term plan dependent on how much you stocked. Follidrone and Viron is an excellent stack and recommended Follidrone dose is 2 caps per day, taking it 45-60min pre workout on training days.
2 caps Ed? Iv only been takin 1.. Need to try 2 out and see. Just got 3 more bottles and want to get the most from my workouts.Well, since you know that Formeron is discontinued, that will be a short term plan dependent on how much you stocked. Follidrone and Viron is an excellent stack and recommended Follidrone dose is 2 caps per day, taking it 45-60min pre workout on training days.
Def should be doing 2 pwo.2 caps Ed? Iv only been takin 1.. Need to try 2 out and see. Just got 3 more bottles and want to get the most from my workouts.
Approx the same time as you would on training days.When do you recommend taking it on non training days ?
Thank youDef should be doing 2 pwo.
YesCan follodrone be taken with a preworkout, say something like Hemavol or High Volume?
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Absolutely.Can follodrone be taken with a preworkout, say something like Hemavol or High Volume?
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That's the way I take it. Usually 15 minutesCan follodrone be taken with a preworkout, say something like Hemavol or High Volume?
Thanks!
Epicatechin supplementation improved fasting plasma insulin/improving insulin resistance
When do you recommend taking it on non training days ?
No estrogen issues.Does Follidrone cause any estrogen issues and would an AI be needed with it?
Its non hormonal. So, no it does not raise estrogen. You could stack an AI like Exotherm with it i you were tryingDoes Follidrone cause any estrogen issues and would an AI be needed with it?