FOLLIDRONE 2.0

I'll tell you what brundel... I was skeptical about FD2 and have tried running it 2 times... first time I was doing a CKD and the second run was during an LGD cycle... both times I experienced nothing really noteworthy.

I've been on FD2 for 3 wks and am carb cycling and I think I really have my diet and training dialed in for what works for me.

I'm getting ph like results from the FD2 this time. I've dropped 6lbs and my squats & deads have gone up in both weight and reps. Vascularity and muscle pumps started this week.

I'll be running this for the next 6 months
 
mmorso said:
I'll tell you what brundel... I was skeptical about FD2 and have tried running it 2 times... first time I was doing a CKD and the second run was during an LGD cycle... both times I experienced nothing really noteworthy.

I've been on FD2 for 3 wks and am carb cycling and I think I really have my diet and training dialed in for what works for me.

I'm getting ph like results from the FD2 this time. I've dropped 6lbs and my squats & deads have gone up in both weight and reps. Vascularity and muscle pumps started this week.

I'll be running this for the next 6 months
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Told you this is my favorite supp bit ch! I always run it solo. being all Natty this is a GOD send. I have never carb loaded with this, might give it a try. starting back up in a month or so.
Can't wait for brundel anabolic he is working on.
 
Something that offers gains beyond FD 2.0.......No way its legal!
 
jameschoi said:
What if I bought more ECava by itself to stack wit FD2. Would that amplify FD2. Also, is there any difference if you were to take 6 caps a day of FD2.
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I have some 300mg/cap Ford-Speranza (can't tell if it's doing anything) purchased before FD2 so I stacked them for a couple days at meals, then decided to stop, after all FD2 has EC. Didn't feel any difference.

bigsmall said:
I used 3-6 caps a day for 5 months (mostly 5-6 caps) and yes.....the effects were much more pronounced.
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Ha, gotta try that!
 
bigsmall said:
I used 3-6 caps a day for 5 months (mostly 5-6 caps) and yes.....the effects were much more pronounced.
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My plan is to stay at 3 caps for this month then jump to 6 caps for all of may to see how it compares, i only ran 4-6 caps for 1-2 weeks before so i feel 1 month at 6 will give a better comparison.
 
mmorso said:
I'll tell you what brundel... I was skeptical about FD2 and have tried running it 2 times... first time I was doing a CKD and the second run was during an LGD cycle... both times I experienced nothing really noteworthy.

I've been on FD2 for 3 wks and am carb cycling and I think I really have my diet and training dialed in for what works for me.

I'm getting ph like results from the FD2 this time. I've dropped 6lbs and my squats & deads have gone up in both weight and reps. Vascularity and muscle pumps started this week.

I'll be running this for the next 6 months
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Seems like on the first 2 runs you had things that might inhibit FD2s effects. Once you get the diet in check FD2 is, as you say, very similar to a PH/DS.
I know this is a big statement but dozens of guys say this and nothing else I know of can help you lose fat while gaining muscle. Especially while eating more carbs and more food.
 
Stray_Cat said:
I have some 300mg/cap Ford-Speranza (can't tell if it's doing anything) purchased before FD2 so I stacked them for a couple days at meals, then decided to stop, after all FD2 has EC. Didn't feel any difference.



Ha, gotta try that!
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Keep in mind that not all EC extracts are the same. The ford brand is different. I dont know what their standardizations are (if any) or how strong the extract it. Could be just seaweed powder 1:1. Ours is exceptionally strong and delivers all of the proper components.
Plus...FD2 isnt just EC.
EC
Epi
Flos
Q/n co crystals
plus absorption.
VASTLY different.
 
brundel said:
Keep in mind that not all EC extracts are the same. The ford brand is different. I dont know what their standardizations are (if any) or how strong the extract it. Could be just seaweed powder 1:1. Ours is exceptionally strong and delivers all of the proper components.
Plus...FD2 isnt just EC.
EC
Epi
Flos
Q/n co crystals
plus absorption.
VASTLY different.
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Definitely. I feel the FD2 is doing more. Stacked with what I am running, I've gotten a sense of "indestructibility" in terms of recovery and endurance, if not power due to a long hiatus from lifting. The smaller groups and connective tissues have been the limiting factor.

I originally bought the Ford Speranza EC looking for what a few have described as an in-the-pocket, in-the-zone, sense of well being. I stacked it with FD2 with meals to assess any GDA like properties. It's primarily marketed as a 8300 ORAC antioxidant and Glucose regulator 98.8% purity Full spectrum water-based extract, standardized to 15% phlorotannin polyphenols that's 40% fat soluble and crosses the blood-brain barrier.

Bottom line? Haven't dosed the Ford a few days now, redundant with FD2, getting my antioxidant needs met by FD2 and 12mg ED Bioastin Astaxanthin.
 
1/5

I just finished running 1 bottle of the FD2 and unfortunately it was a huge disappointment for me. Based on almost all the other reviews I was expecting to see some benefits in regards to body comp and potentially strength/exercise capacity... I am currently dieting and have actually lost almost no weight, nor has body comp changed measurably. Based on a diet and training style that ive run many times successfully over the last few years, this is a real bummer.

FWIW, I have not had luck with almost any -(-)epi supplement, but had hoped to see something more from this as it has some other ingredients, as well as what I expected to be a different impact from the extract/absorption/etc combo in it. For me, this was a 100% miss and I would not purchase nor recommend, especially considering the price tag.
 
As far as natty anabolics go, how does BLR's FD2 compare to something like PES' new Anabeta Elite?
 
I cannot say as i have not tried anabeta yet, but i have used Laxogenin in form of DSU and SU by Olympus Labs, and X Factor by Molecular Nutrition, laxogenin works well for my joints but i never report it as an effective anabolic product, ARA causes serious doms and i used at maintenance and at slight deficit and i feel it worked well to allow for me to retain strength and muscle during PCT, i have also used Phosphadic Acid, in form of cutlers King and Tr1umph by OL, and find it works well for added muscle fullness and better pumps and compliments ARA.

FD2 i find works well to allow for strength to be retained as well as muscle when in fat loss phases.

I have never used it for a full on bulk or at maintenance or caloric surplus.
 
I've run the past two Anabeta Elite Versions and enjoyed both runs.
I've run MN's X-Factor and X-Factor advanced. Both during bulking phases and gained slightly over average strength on both runs too.
I ran MuscleTech's Phosphamusucle twice too, but can't say I got much from it tbh.

I got two bottles of FD2 for my birthday last year that I've been itching to crack open so I'm looking to run either
CEL's M-Test + BLR's FD2
OR
PES' New Anabeta Elite + BLR's FD2

What do you guys think?
 
Slims said:
I've run the past two Anabeta Elite Versions and enjoyed both runs.
I've run MN's X-Factor and X-Factor advanced. Both during bulking phases and gained slightly over average strength on both runs too.
I ran MuscleTech's Phosphamusucle twice too, but can't say I got much from it tbh.

I got two bottles of FD2 for my birthday last year that I've been itching to crack open so I'm looking to run either
CEL's M-Test + BLR's FD2
OR
PES' New Anabeta Elite + BLR's FD2

What do you guys think?
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Why not run all 3?

If only 2 I would run the anabeta and FD2 because anabeta makes you hungry and FD2 plus a huge caloric surplus is an epic bulk.
 
Slims said:
Appetite is definitely not an issue for me haha!
Have you tried FD2?
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I own Black lion research. So I know it well as I formulated it.
I have used it as a product and all of the ingredients solo. Extensively.
 
brundel said:
I own Black lion research. So I know it well as I formulated it.
I have used it as a product and all of the ingredients solo. Extensively.
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Oh! O.k. You're probably the best person to speak to then. What can I realistically expect from FD2 with a solid hypertrophy focussed training programme and +500kcal surplus diet?
 
Slims said:
Oh! O.k. You're probably the best person to speak to then. What can I realistically expect from FD2 with a solid hypertrophy focussed training programme and +500kcal surplus diet?
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A lean and solid bulk seems to be the consensus. I actually lost fat on a caloric surplus using fd2.
 
Slims said:
How were the strength and size gains on that run?
What else, if anything, were you running?
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I was going all natty - just eating real good and working out hard. I actually ran a log....I'll find it and link it here

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Oh, and I just remembered that the first review post here is mine.....:)
 
Thank you for the link. That's a really good and detailed log and you had some awesome results. I'm even more excited to crack open my FD2 now!
 
Slims said:
Thank you for the link. That's a really good and detailed log and you had some awesome results. I'm even more excited to crack open my FD2 now!
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Make sure you have all your ancillaries in place before you start your FD2 cycle
 
Slims said:
Oh! O.k. You're probably the best person to speak to then. What can I realistically expect from FD2 with a solid hypertrophy focussed training programme and +500kcal surplus diet?
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Some fat loss for sure and some muscle gain.
Most see weight loss at 500 cals above maintenance.
If you want to grow I would increase cals 500 for each week.
It sounds like alot and it is. Youll gain some bodyfat prob by the end but I can promise you youll be significantly larger.
The point is...eat. alot more than norm and youll grow a ton.
Eat maintenance and youll likely lose weight.
Eat just above and you may still lose some weight as fd2 has serious fat loss action.
One of our members did like I outlined. Tons of extra cals. He gained 17lbs. I think 4 to 8 weeks.
 
Slims said:
Oh! O.k. You're probably the best person to speak to then. What can I realistically expect from FD2 with a solid hypertrophy focussed training programme and +500kcal surplus diet?
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Also remember....you dont grow when your training. You grow when your eating and sleeping..bodybuilding is done at the dinner table.
Focus on the food bro.
Have faith in my words.
 
patrick25 said:
For whatever reason I responded better to FD1 has the thought of a re release ever crossed your mind.
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Fd2 IS fd1. Its the same ingredients plus new ones.
Fd1 was epicatechin.
Fd2 is epicatechin plus absorption enhancement
Ecklonia
Flos carth
Quercetin niacin co crystals.

Its vastly better.
 
brundel said:
Hes joking. You dont need ancillaries. Fd2 is non hpta driven.
No pct or ancillaries.
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I know FD2 is Natty, that's why I questioned him haha!
Really looking forward to this run. I'm running with a +500/600kcal surplus and hypertrophy focussed training programme...Plus some power Deads ;)
 
Slims said:
I know FD2 is Natty, that's why I questioned him haha!
Really looking forward to this run. I'm running with a +500/600kcal surplus and hypertrophy focussed training programme...Plus some power Deads ;)
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Awesome to hear, keep us posted with feedback on your run.
 
paul56778 said:
What are bloods for, FD2 is non suppressive.
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I'm stacking the FD2 alongside an M-Test run.
I have to have bloods taken every 8 weeks and I'm due to have the next set done next week. Which gives me the perfect opportunity to see if M-Test really does increase Testosterone levels, with bloods to prove/disprove it.
I'm going to start the 8-12 week (Unsponsored) M-Test run (Plus A Log) the day after my bloods are taken and will be posting the pre and post results.
 
I'm having trouble finding fd 2.0 , is there new packaging from strong or is that 1.0?
 
luckylefty811 said:
I'm having trouble finding fd 2.0 , is there new packaging from strong or is that 1.0?
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Strong shows the new bottle design.

this shows the old bottles. they just need to update their picks. you will get FD.2
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I think code AM5 gets you 5% off.

Both are great companys
 
luckylefty811 said:
I'm having trouble finding fd 2.0 , is there new packaging from strong or is that 1.0?
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the best deal is nutri verse two bottle combo for 75.99. although it shows old packaging, you will receive the new packaging (of fd2). Add it to your cart for discount. Sign up for their newsletter and you can get 10% more off.
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Hate to revive an old thread, but how should one dose if they train fasted in the morning? For reference, I wake up at 4:45, slam my pre while I get dressed and am usually in the gym by 5:15 warming up. I have a bottle of this on hand and would like to add it to my log once progress starts slowing a tad.

Thanks!
 
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