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FL3X is getting WEIRD with AI Sports Phenibut/3z (sponsored)

FL3X MAGNUM said:
Well....ok.
I took 1.5g with a bottle of Mountain Dew (I know. I'm bad!)
Then I proceeded to drink my 6 pack of Coors Light.
I felt very mellowed out from the start of this endeavor (about midnight) all the way til the end (about 4 am).
I think the phenibut enhanced my buzz.
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so.......you took phenibut with a stimulant, then proceeded to confuse the crap out of your body by drowning it in depressants? You are a cruel man to your CNS. Well done.
 
kingjameskjf said:
so.......you took phenibut with a stimulant, then proceeded to confuse the crap out of your body by drowning it in depressants? You are a cruel man to your CNS. Well done.
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You told me you wanted me to experiment with my body.

Or did you say you wanted to experiment with my body.........
 
Had a bunch of f'd up dreams the other night.
I took 3 caps of 3z about half hour before bed and then I was out.
Had a dream that I was in the future, everything was run down, the government/big pharma was in control of all medicines and supplements, and I was part of an elite team that went around slinging supps and meds, kinda like a drug dealer. We all had super powers, and most of the places we went looked like some of the maps from Halo lol. We were using our super powers to beat up all the government hit men that tried to stop us.
It was cool for the most part but I remember I was very paranoid in my dream.
Then yesterday I got crappy sleep so in the morning I took 3 caps of phenibut and tried to pass back out. My eyelids got heavy within 20 minutes but I wasn't out for a good hour and a half after that, but when I was out, I was out cold. Don't even remember my dream this time.
I woke up this morning off 5 hours of sleep and felt energized and ready to rock. No going back to sleep for me.
Normally after 5 hours of sleep on a day off I would want more, but it just wasn't happening.
I am wondering if maybe this has something to do with the phenibut messing with my body's natural rhythm.
I think the plan now will be to take the 3z only on the nights where I took phenibut the night before.
Mostly to save my supplies lol, but also to experiment.
 
PrettY average dream...lol
FL3X MAGNUM said:
Had a bunch of f'd up dreams the other night.
I took 3 caps of 3z about half hour before bed and then I was out.
Had a dream that I was in the future, everything was run down, the government/big pharma was in control of all medicines and supplements, and I was part of an elite team that went around slinging supps and meds, kinda like a drug dealer. We all had super powers, and most of the places we went looked like some of the maps from Halo lol. We were using our super powers to beat up all the government hit men that tried to stop us.
It was cool for the most part but I remember I was very paranoid in my dream.
Then yesterday I got crappy sleep so in the morning I took 3 caps of phenibut and tried to pass back out. My eyelids got heavy within 20 minutes but I wasn't out for a good hour and a half after that, but when I was out, I was out cold. Don't even remember my dream this time.
I woke up this morning off 5 hours of sleep and felt energized and ready to rock. No going back to sleep for me.
Normally after 5 hours of sleep on a day off I would want more, but it just wasn't happening.
I am wondering if maybe this has something to do with the phenibut messing with my body's natural rhythm.
I think the plan now will be to take the 3z only on the nights where I took phenibut the night before.
Mostly to save my supplies lol, but also to experiment.
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kingjameskjf said:
Oh. I thought it was only 3 days, not 5.
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Phenibut is to be cycled James. Has SNS taught you nothing???
 
Update time...

Per AI's suggestion (can't remember who suggested) I have taken my last two nights of phenibut about an hour before the 3z instead of directly before bed.
1.5g both times. This seriously put me in a nice relaxed mood while getting ready for bed.
Normally I catch a second wind about half hour before bed it seems. It can make for very little effectiveness from the 3z. But this idea actually took that wind out of me I guess you could say.
Phenibut in that sense can enhance the effectiveness of 3z.
I had a dream last night that I woke up before the sun and none of my light switches worked. The clocks and TV still did so I knew there was power. After grabbing a flashlight I discovered someone had unscrewed all my light bulbs while i was sleeping. Not sure what that means.....but it was freaky.
 
I tried 1.5g of Phenibut last night, for the first time. I took it with three capsules of HGHpro. I dreamed that I rolled my truck, woke up, then I was blindsided by a huge dog in the back yard, woke up, and then I woke myself up talking in my sleep, but I can't remember what the dream was, lol.
 
stxnas said:
I tried 1.5g of Phenibut last night, for the first time. I took it with three capsules of HGHpro. I dreamed that I rolled my truck, woke up, then I was blindsided by a huge dog in the back yard, woke up, and then I woke myself up talking in my sleep, but I can't remember what the dream was, lol.
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Are you sure you didn't sleep over at MidwestBeast's house?
 
It's uncomfortable over there. He always calls big spoon. :(
 
So last night I popped 3 caps phenibut around 8 pm, and was in bed by 10. I felt nice and mellowed out for a change instead of getting that second wind. I ran out of 3z so I broke into some ZMA caps I had stashed away. Not quite as powerful as 3z but it will do for now.

Had some weird dreams again lol...as if you would expect anything else!!
I can't remember it all but I do remember that I was at work and for some reason decided to take my pants off while I was all by myself and kick back in a chair to relax for a couple minutes. Some bitter older lady that works there caught me somehow and tried to get me fired and I told her I'm a man and I can do what I want. Wtf? I have no idea lol....

I should also note that, I woke up at 3:30 am. I didn't fall asleep til just before 11pm, so that was 4.5 hours of sleep. Not too much sleep. But I was wide awake when I woke up and couldn't get back to sleep. I felt eager to start my day. Not sure if this means my sleep has achieved super powers and I get mega rested or if the phenibut is messing with me. Either way I feel fine right now, not tired at all.
 
stxnas said:
I tried 1.5g of Phenibut last night, for the first time. I took it with three capsules of HGHpro. I dreamed that I rolled my truck, woke up, then I was blindsided by a huge dog in the back yard, woke up, and then I woke myself up talking in my sleep, but I can't remember what the dream was, lol.
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I wonder what would happen if you take Phenibut, 3z and HGHpro all together lol. You'll prolly have a SUPER CRAZY DREAM
 
Bulkypinoy61 said:
I wonder what would happen if you take Phenibut, 3z and HGHpro all together lol. You'll prolly have a SUPER CRAZY DREAM
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I bet man! Would I ever come out of it?? Lol.
Am I in it right now? Is this a dream!?!?!?!?
 
Last night's phenibut episode:

Popped 4 caps, 2g, about 2 hours before bed. I winded down very nice. I would say I don't notice much a difference between 1.5g and 2g, maybe tiredness sets in a little faster. But the tiredness goes away after about half an hour and then I just feel mellow and generally good.

I think I might try 3g tomorrow night and see if I observe anything extra.

My weird dream...lol....

My gf and I were living at my place, but my place was HUGE and in Florida on some big spring break hotspot. We were hanging out in a community hot tub and someone took all our clothes. Can't remember what happened after that but later on we were back at my place and my roommate that I just recently kicked out showed up with a huge crew and they just started dragging all his sh!t in. A friend of his told me it was a big party weekend and they needed a place to crash. They brought his dresser, bed, dishes, freaking EVERYTHING and just started partying in my house. I was so upset. I remember I jumped up on my table with a microphone and announced to them all that they had no business being there and I was going to call the cops. They told me I was a buzz kill and left to the bar. I started dragging all his stuff back out, and I don't know the significance of this but there was a giant hole in the floor in the room he was using.
While I was dragging his stuff out, the cops or somebody like that came and told me that was illegal and I had to let him move it on his own. I proceeded to secretly move it and suddenly there was this hit squad after me trying to kill me. I killed a bunch of them and was trying to act like I wasn't there anymore. I swung out on this balcony and swung my gf to safety, and I looked in the window and saw the cleaning lady pull out a gun and point it at me so I killed her too, then I don't remember anything else.

Good stuff....lol.

Just realized I do in fact have 3 caps of 3z left, taking those in a bit and crashing out for the night.......
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
Update time...

Per AI's suggestion (can't remember who suggested) I have taken my last two nights of phenibut about an hour before the 3z instead of directly before bed.
1.5g both times. This seriously put me in a nice relaxed mood while getting ready for bed.
Normally I catch a second wind about half hour before bed it seems. It can make for very little effectiveness from the 3z. But this idea actually took that wind out of me I guess you could say.
Phenibut in that sense can enhance the effectiveness of 3z.
I had a dream last night that I woke up before the sun and none of my light switches worked. The clocks and TV still did so I knew there was power. After grabbing a flashlight I discovered someone had unscrewed all my light bulbs while i was sleeping. Not sure what that means.....but it was freaky.
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It must of been your roomate that did it, either that or, your GF who didn't want you to see her sneaking off to boot camp ;-)

I like the way you dosed the phenibut, I'm going to give that a try tonight.
 
D2footballjrc said:
It must of been your roomate that did it, either that or, your GF who didn't want you to see her sneaking off to boot camp ;-)

I like the way you dosed the phenibut, I'm going to give that a try tonight.
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Let me know how it treats you
 
Definitely going to try this, my son has been waking me up lately though and wanted to sleep in our bed. He goes through little sessions of like 4 days when he does this, so I'll wait til its over
 
Well guys I am gonna try the mid day dose today I think....
2 caps? 4 caps? Let the voting begin!!!
Power nap and then back at it for the day. Gotta shoot my new handgun later :)
 
Happy Monday gentlemen!
Had a freaking BUSY last few days. Mondays are supposed to be the hectic days I thought! Just thought I would catch you guys up on a couple things.
I took 4 caps of Phenibut Thursday evening and it pretty much turned me into a vegetable! My body was sluggish. But I felt good.
I don't drink much these days but I was doing some St. Patty's celebrating and reuniting with friends so Thursday through Saturday I poisoned myself lol.
I am pretty sure phenibut makes me a cheap drunk.

I took two caps yesterday around noon so I could pass out and recover for a few hours.
I also gave the gf one single cap and she slept for a good 5 hours. She told me it made her body feel like she couldn't move it but she liked it.
This could get interesting ;)
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
Last night's phenibut episode:

Popped 4 caps, 2g, about 2 hours before bed. I winded down very nice. I would say I don't notice much a difference between 1.5g and 2g, maybe tiredness sets in a little faster. But the tiredness goes away after about half an hour and then I just feel mellow and generally good.

I think I might try 3g tomorrow night and see if I observe anything extra.

My weird dream...lol....

My gf and I were living at my place, but my place was HUGE and in Florida on some big spring break hotspot. We were hanging out in a community hot tub and someone took all our clothes. Can't remember what happened after that but later on we were back at my place and my roommate that I just recently kicked out showed up with a huge crew and they just started dragging all his sh!t in. A friend of his told me it was a big party weekend and they needed a place to crash. They brought his dresser, bed, dishes, freaking EVERYTHING and just started partying in my house. I was so upset. I remember I jumped up on my table with a microphone and announced to them all that they had no business being there and I was going to call the cops. They told me I was a buzz kill and left to the bar. I started dragging all his stuff back out, and I don't know the significance of this but there was a giant hole in the floor in the room he was using.
While I was dragging his stuff out, the cops or somebody like that came and told me that was illegal and I had to let him move it on his own. I proceeded to secretly move it and suddenly there was this hit squad after me trying to kill me. I killed a bunch of them and was trying to act like I wasn't there anymore. I swung out on this balcony and swung my gf to safety, and I looked in the window and saw the cleaning lady pull out a gun and point it at me so I killed her too, then I don't remember anything else.

Good stuff....lol.

Just realized I do in fact have 3 caps of 3z left, taking those in a bit and crashing out for the night.......
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Finally kicked out the roomie huh.
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
Happy Monday gentlemen!
Had a freaking BUSY last few days. Mondays are supposed to be the hectic days I thought! Just thought I would catch you guys up on a couple things.
I took 4 caps of Phenibut Thursday evening and it pretty much turned me into a vegetable! My body was sluggish. But I felt good.
I don't drink much these days but I was doing some St. Patty's celebrating and reuniting with friends so Thursday through Saturday I poisoned myself lol.
I am pretty sure phenibut makes me a cheap drunk.

I took two caps yesterday around noon so I could pass out and recover for a few hours.
I also gave the gf one single cap and she slept for a good 5 hours. She told me it made her body feel like she couldn't move it but she liked it.
This could get interesting ;)
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So what's the sweet spot, so far? Have you figured out how many capsules to take for different situations?
 
I think his dreams mirror many of his real life experiences. :D
 
Sorry for the lack of updates guys. Some new things that I've taken on have been consuming quite a big chunk of my time.

Nate to answer your question on dosage, I would say 3 is the sweet spot. If I take 3 caps with a night time GH supplement and ZMA on top of that though I seriously wake up feeling hung over, minus the head ache. You know when you wake up and you're walking around like your head is 100 pounds? Lol. It's seriously like that. I also still feel comfortable and warm the next morning. When I take 3 without that stuff, it's money! Perfect mellow feeling, nice sleep, wake up alert and ready to go.

I think the way I've been experimenting with it lately is messing with me, I took 3 caps for 3 days straight, and 5 caps one day, and then yesterday I didn't take any, and I kept feeling anxious. I had barely any sleep and I would be sitting on the couch and just get hit with a wall of anxiety like I GOTTA GET UP AND JUMP AROUND RIGHT NOW kind of feeling, like a big adrenaline rush I guess you could say. It would come and go in waves throughout the day. Kinda weird. That's the whole point of this log though right? Taking a few days off from it anyways lol....will report back ;)
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
Sorry for the lack of updates guys. Some new things that I've taken on have been consuming quite a big chunk of my time.

Nate to answer your question on dosage, I would say 3 is the sweet spot. If I take 3 caps with a night time GH supplement and ZMA on top of that though I seriously wake up feeling hung over, minus the head ache. You know when you wake up and you're walking around like your head is 100 pounds? Lol. It's seriously like that. I also still feel comfortable and warm the next morning. When I take 3 without that stuff, it's money! Perfect mellow feeling, nice sleep, wake up alert and ready to go.

I think the way I've been experimenting with it lately is messing with me, I took 3 caps for 3 days straight, and 5 caps one day, and then yesterday I didn't take any, and I kept feeling anxious. I had barely any sleep and I would be sitting on the couch and just get hit with a wall of anxiety like I GOTTA GET UP AND JUMP AROUND RIGHT NOW kind of feeling, like a big adrenaline rush I guess you could say. It would come and go in waves throughout the day. Kinda weird. That's the whole point of this log though right? Taking a few days off from it anyways lol....will report back ;)
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Fl3x if you would ever like to try HGHPro let me know, just curious to see if it gives you some wicked dreams like Phenibut and 3z. Only we are going to make you have a dream diary then sell the dreams as ideas to make movies out of. I'll be rich!
 
D2footballjrc said:
Fl3x if you would ever like to try HGHPro let me know, just curious to see if it gives you some wicked dreams like Phenibut and 3z. Only we are going to make you have a dream diary then sell the dreams as ideas to make movies out of. I'll be rich!
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I tried a half bottle a while back and liked it but mind you back then I didn't know what the hell it was supposed to do. Now that I have this huge wealth of knowledge in my brain I feelz smarter.
 
Well fellas my bottles is not quite empty yet but I feel I have become familiar enough with the Phenibut to give a final assessment on it. I plan on taking this whole entire week off from it to see how it affects me (will get into this below) and I don't want you guys to think I left this log hanging ;)
3Z assessment:
3Z is definitely effective, and does not need to be stacked with any other sleep aides. When used solo at 3 caps half hour before bed, granted you are READY for bed and didn't just pound a preworkout drink, I had no problems becoming sleepy and getting to sleep. Resulted in vivid dreams which seemed to become more vivid with prolonged use, which tells me that prolonged use of 3Z has the potential to boost GH levels. The recommended dose is 3 caps and I wouldn't recommend going beyond that. ZMA makes me SWEAT when I sleep, so extra ZMA= extra sweat. And with 3 caps being effective why take more?
Phenibut assessment:
It does what it claims. It is a powerful nootropic IMO. I trialed it in multiple different situations and here is what I have concluded:
Great for those who need to sleep. Great means of curbing anxiety/stress in a work setting. Good addition for a "going out" c0cktail for those of you who don't want to drink alcohol and still have a good time. Great for those moments where you just need to wind down. Phenibut was my metaphorical beer and a cigarette after work a few times.
To give you an idea of what dosages worked in what ways for me....
1 cap: Drowsy feeling, easier to fall asleep for the night.
2 caps: Drowsy feeling, very relaxed, easy to wind down. When taken with caffeine it shortens the drowsy period. Without caffeine the drowsiness lasts me aout half hour and then goes away and I just feel good.
3 caps: Melting into my bed type of relaxed. When taken at 3 caps with a "going out" c0cktail I didn't feel sleepy, just felt GOOD while I was out.
4 caps: Drowsy, but goes away. Had a euphoric feeling to it. I only did the 4 caps a couple times just because I was nervous to, and didn't take with caffeine either time I believe so no comments there.
Because of the precautions I took, taking days off between phenibut doses, it is hard for me to say that my body develops a resistance to it, but I don't plan on taking it every day to figure that out. The one thing that stayed pretty constant is a mild feeling of anxiety on the day off if I took it two nights in a row. It wasn't anything crazy but it was there. I am wondering if it is some form of withdrawal to it. Keep in mind I was above the recommended dose every time after the first week.
Lastly, 3Z and phenibut together are great for sleep! If you want some awesome sleep and crazy dreams, try 3 caps 3z and 3 caps phenibut about an hour before bed ;)
Thanks to AI Sports for their generousity, I appreciate it and I have had a lot of fun with this log. Thanks to all that followed!
 
That's a pretty awesome final review, Fl3x! Thanks for taking the time to experiment in the ways that you did, too.
 
John Smeton said:
very nice never mixed these together. May have to try this
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If you try it make sure you don't have to do anything too important in the morning just in case the effects last longer.
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
If you try it make sure you don't have to do anything too important in the morning just in case the effects last longer.
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This is a good point. I won't take 3Z + Phenibut if I have under 8-9 hours before having to get up. If I've had a stressful day, I just take two caps of phenibut about 60-90 minutes before bed. If I don't have to get up in a few hours, I'll take 3Z and and maybe even one more phenibut about 30 minutes before I plan to go to sleep.
 
John Smeton said:
O I agree I took phenibut last night and slept 11 hours straight.

do you mix 3z AND PHENIBUT AT THE SAME TIME?
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Yeah. It's not bad. Try two caps phenibut a couple hours before bed to wind down and the 3z just before bed.
 
^^^That's how I've come to use the combination of Phenibut and 3Z.
 
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