spiderduncan
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I advise keeping shakes on hand, and always be ready to slam some food when your stomach doesn't object. LOL.
Exactly. Love my shakes! Whey isolate, casein, oats and almonds in water.
I advise keeping shakes on hand, and always be ready to slam some food when your stomach doesn't object. LOL.
It can get pretty rough sometimes (no hunger), especially toward the end of the cycle. I advise keeping shakes on hand, and always be ready to slam some food when your stomach doesn't object. LOL.
Hell ya. Almost the same results- half the side effects. If you’re one of the lucky ones that can run it at 20mg, go for it. I struggle to eat at all though even on 10. Still seen ridiculous body composition changes more than any other drug with low dose SD. To this day, I’ve run almost everything out there, Trest and SD at low doses was the most jaw dropping transformation I’ve ever experienced.
Im running my trt alongside 350mg of tren e and currently 10mg of superdrol until I feel better (dont want to waste it). When do your 10mg to ensure your best results? I read its half life is only 8-9 hours...
Hell ya. Almost the same results- half the side effects. If you’re one of the lucky ones that can run it at 20mg, go for it. I struggle to eat at all though even on 10. Still seen ridiculous body composition changes more than any other drug with low dose SD. To this day, I’ve run almost everything out there, Trest and SD at low doses was the most jaw dropping transformation I’ve ever experienced.
It's hard to argue against anyone going low dose.
The only reason I don't usually recommend that dose is because I know know that almost nobody will even try it.
I’ve recently jumped on the low dose band wagon as well. I’ve ran 1g of test with other AAS before, this cycle only has 250mg. With the low dose superdrol however, if I take it in the morning with I even feel it when I train 12 hours later with the short half life?
I'll be honest...I don't really remember a Preworkout "on" type of effect. I personally like having it available as much as possible during my waking hours......and ESPECIALLY (for me) I like to have it as far ahead of my sleep attempt as possible.
Well im not thinking a preworkout effect, but dont you want to be training while you are in the half life window if you are only popping 1 tab a day?
It literally doesn’t matter when. The stuff is potent. There’s still 5mg , 8 hours later in your system, so it’s not gone, thats enough to make a difference, I promise. What I have done also, is on important workout days, pop another 10mg 2 hours prior, maybe just twice a week or so. And then, every other day kind of in the AM how all the old schoolers used to do it 40 years ago with Dbol. ‘Morning Dbol’
My plan originally was to take 10mg at 6am and 10 mg at 4pm (workout usually starts around 530-6), but I guess that will all depend on if I can tolerate 20.
What would you guys say the sides were like compared to msten? I remember last year I did a 4 week cycle with test 20/20/20/30 on week 4 I felt like death but the gains were unreal
Hell ya. Almost the same results- half the side effects. If you’re one of the lucky ones that can run it at 20mg, go for it. I struggle to eat at all though even on 10. Still seen ridiculous body composition changes more than any other drug with low dose SD. To this day, I’ve run almost everything out there, Trest and SD at low doses was the most jaw dropping transformation I’ve ever experienced.
I recently did sd at 20mg for the best part of 4 weeks but felt horrible by the end. Not stomach aches but didn't do a normal crap for the last couple of weeks. First week felt like a god though so getting negative symptoms 3 days in is odd. It may be just your body trying to deal with everything your throwing at it. If you have gone from nothing to suddenly taking 20 pills a day of sd plus multi, fish oils and support sups then you will be shocking your body and giving your stomach a heavy workload.
20 is better, no doubt. But I’ve seen astounding results 10mg every day for 35 days, once a day. I’ve ran SD every way you can run it. My first go was 40mg split up 4xdaily, I think 25 lbs was on me by the beginning of week 4. At 27 years old, I didn’t even feel lousy, but at 37, I couldn’t even finish 20mg a day for all 4 weeks. So I stick with 10mg all the way through with the occasional bump of extra.
I’m clearly not an expert on SD as this is my first run, but I’m taken every other oral except halo. That being said because of the 8-9 hour half life I wouldn’t think you would get as much out of it as opposed to running 20mg a day and creating more stable blood levels.What about pulsing? is SD strong enough too see gains from pulsing it at 3 days a week at 40 mg split on pre/post workout.
Ya man, I’m hoping your right. Most AAS lowers your immune system right? Wondering if it just made me more susceptible.... though no one around me at home or at work is sick lolSounds like you just came down with a cold. Granted it may have played a part in you getting the cold somehow, but that's how it sounds to me
I’m clearly not an expert on SD as this is my first run, but I’m taken every other oral except halo. That being said because of the 8-9 hour half life I wouldn’t think you would get as much out of it as opposed to running 20mg a day and creating more stable blood levels.
Yeah pulsing seem like a wild shot, plus I'm sure the suppression would kick in before too long. Still, I'd imagine pulsing SD would be better than natty
You’re right, pulsing would be better than natty, but if you have enough pills to pulse 40mg 3 times a week.... what would make you choose that over 20mg a day. Also, unstable blood levels and large infrequent dosing causes more side effects.
I would not pulse any compound ever.
Waste of time?
I have to agree 100% with Renew1 on this one. Pulsing is a waste of time and money, and potential gains. The ONLY way I could see pulsing being worthwhile is if you were on a cycle of (for sake of argument) 500 test and 400 tren and you could find an oral that had a short enough half life that it worked like a test suspension. If that were the case though, people wouldnt run test suspensions as preworkouts.Well I think the idea of pulsing would be to avoid the serous side effects as much as possible. You say you've run every oral. what would you say is a strong enough oral to get noticeable gains but with the lowest side effects while pulsing? I know Dbol is used to pulse but you'll know more about orals. Pulsing is attractive because running full cycles isn't practical in life once you've done enough haha
You wont die if you run 20mg for 5 weeks with proper liver care (milk thistle, NAC), and consume lots of water/no alcohol. Ive ran tbol for 8 weeks, followed by winstrol for 6 weeks and my liver was fine on my bloodwork.Does going 20mg for 4 weeks really beat 10mg a day at 5 weeks?
With any oral, 3-4 weeks isnt going to buy you a lot of strength after your pct, especially if the strength gains are dramatically quick (adrol/m1t comes to mind), your body needs time to grow. That said, if you had a test base with it, that continued for another 8 weeks after so that the muscle had more time to develope, I could see you holding onto a lot more of it.Since there's quite a few people in here that have used sd, how was your guys strength after stopping sd use? Were you guys able to maintain a majority of strength gains, a percentage of it, or none at all?
With any oral, 3-4 weeks isnt going to buy you a lot of strength after your pct, especially if the strength gains are dramatically quick (adrol/m1t comes to mind), your body needs time to grow. That said, if you had a test base with it, that continued for another 8 weeks after so that the muscle had more time to develope, I could see you holding onto a lot more of it.
Any timeThat makes sense, I figured that's why most orals are ran in the beginning of the cycle when aiming for strength, thanks :thumbsup:
You wont die if you run 20mg for 5 weeks with proper liver care (milk thistle, NAC), and consume lots of water/no alcohol. Ive ran tbol for 8 weeks, followed by winstrol for 6 weeks and my liver was fine on my bloodwork.
Why not just do 10mg at 6 weeks then?
With any oral, 3-4 weeks isnt going to buy you a lot of strength after your pct, especially if the strength gains are dramatically quick (adrol/m1t comes to mind), your body needs time to grow. That said, if you had a test base with it, that continued for another 8 weeks after so that the muscle had more time to develope, I could see you holding onto a lot more of it.
Well today was my first day on it. Was going to start with ten mgs but I have a decent amount of experience and I'm on test so I went right to 20, split dosing. Planning on two, maybe 3 weeks depending on how I feel. So I'll keep you posted. How many days in are you? The reason I used it to kick is strength gains are supposed to come on fast