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first ph was spawn, what should i take next?

dothereject

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I took spawn my first ph now im looking to take another but im not sure what to take. spawn gave me reasonable strength and weight gains and i want a ph that can do the same if not better. Any suggestions of ph's to look into for a second cycle?
 
yeah i was going to mention phera as well. Just a real SOLID PH, not deficient in any way. Good strength, good size, hardness/vascularity. IMO a 5 weeker like 30/30/30/40/40... something like that.
 
dothereject said:
isnt phara wet gains tho? would i lose my gains after pct or did u guys keep ur gains
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Read up on what wet vs dry gains actually are.


Phera is illegal now, and so is the tren that was in spawn.

Id say your best bet would be to read up a bit, running spawn as a first cycle probably wasnt an informed decision.

I would recommend epi or hdrol for your next cycle pending you research about it. :)
 
deadaim said:
Read up on what wet vs dry gains actually are.


Phera is illegal now, and so is the tren that was in spawn.

Id say your best bet would be to read up a bit, running spawn as a first cycle probably wasnt an informed decision.

I would recommend epi or hdrol for your next cycle pending you research about it. :)
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already have read up on it, and i disagree with you, i thought spawn was awesome and had no side effects so im glad i took it as my first ph
 
deadaim said:
Read up on what wet vs dry gains actually are.


Phera is illegal now, and so is the tren that was in spawn.

Id say your best bet would be to read up a bit, running spawn as a first cycle probably wasnt an informed decision.

I would recommend epi or hdrol for your next cycle pending you research about it. :)
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What you have said here is true....but germany, czech republic, britain, finland,etc do not know this...I think that is hints enough:sgrin:
 
dothereject said:
is superdrol more toxic to the liver then spawn?
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Superdrol is the current raining champ still available for being "most risky". Though the granddaddy of risk for liver would be M1T, not counting some of the real AAS you can that can damn near kill you in 10 times faster(such as Cheque drops).

But you be smart about it, risk should be minimal. But remember, it all involves risks.
 
even if i could get my hands on phera plex i prob wont because if its banned im sure the remaining bottles have an expired expiration date along with superdrol. What is the best remainging un-banned ph?
 
dothereject said:
even if i could get my hands on phera plex i prob wont because if its banned im sure the remaining bottles have an expired expiration date along with superdrol. What is the best remainging un-banned ph?
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At your height and weight, Id be tempted to tell you to run some Test with a light dbol kickstart ha.


I would definitely say try some hdrol and see how you like it. Even guys your size can put on a solid ten lbs on cycle.

The max you could put on is like near 20lbs on an extreme oral cycle, and your bound to lose some weight. So why take something extreme to gain 15 lbs, when you can work your butt off and get 10 with something much more mild.
 
i gained around 12-14 pounds with spawn and my bench went up 30 lbs. test doesnt do anything for me. its been months since my spawn cycle and i still kept on most of the weight, lost around 3 or 4 pounds. i dont think im too small to take a good ph
 
dothereject said:
even if i could get my hands on phera plex i prob wont because if its banned im sure the remaining bottles have an expired expiration date along with superdrol. What is the best remainging un-banned ph?
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Banned does not mean its no longer being produced friend.

Also, the expiration dates on most things just banned probably last out to 2012. Besides if you can get em, vaccum seal em, and store in in a cool dry place...they should last longer than exp date. I seen people still running old M1T and other substances getting results.
 
Zero V said:
Banned does not mean its no longer being produced friend.

Also, the expiration dates on most things just banned probably last out to 2012. Besides if you can get em, vaccum seal em, and store in in a cool dry place...they should last longer than exp date. I seen people still running old M1T and other substances getting results.
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well in that case i might be doing some research into phera plex. how long has that been banned for?
 
dothereject said:
i gained around 12-14 pounds with spawn and my bench went up 30 lbs. test doesnt do anything for me. its been months since my spawn cycle and i still kept on most of the weight, lost around 3 or 4 pounds. i dont think im too small to take a good ph
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i'm actually excited to see another nonresponder to test, can you tell me anything more about that? It would mean a lot to me.

As for Phera I'm sure you can still find some. A friggin boatload was produced.
 
ive been looking into halodrol, testanate50, havoc, h-drol, tren xtreme. seems like most are banned tho and hard to find. i found a place that has phera plex but it says its best by feb 2008 so its most likely not good now
 
I have heard great things about Prurus labs M1-4e, epistane and m1,4add. You could also buy them separate and play with the doses. Superdrol is also one of the best non banned compounds followed by high dosed Epi.
 
Silver3CSRT8 said:
I have heard great things about Prurus labs M1-4e, epistane and m1,4add. You could also buy them separate and play with the doses. Superdrol is also one of the best non banned compounds followed by high dosed Epi.
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superdrol is banned already isnt it? i havent found any places selling it
 
dothereject said:
superdrol is banned already isnt it? i havent found any places selling it
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No its not....well technically the original was, but clones :squareeyed:

Look for M-drol, Microdrol, plain old superdrol.

I have found plenty of places with it. I found some US sites still carrying most things. Not everyone is as quick to tuck their tail and run in the face of oppression...
 
Zero V said:
No its not....well technically the original was, but clones :squareeyed:

Look for M-drol, Microdrol, plain old superdrol.

I have found plenty of places with it. I found some US sites still carrying most things. Not everyone is as quick to tuck their tail and run in the face of oppression...
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yea i wasnt sure clones would be as strong, your sayin it works just as good? are there any phera plex clones that still work good?
 
dothereject said:
i read some threads on bunk mdrol but they were old threads, is that rumor still goin around now?
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Bud stop worrying so much, be more worried about understanding it and less worried about getting bunk mdrol.

These "supplements" are produced in mass, as in thousands of them get pumped through a line, as a result every once in awhile there will be, for many products, a small batch that may not be exactly like its intended.

If you get bunk, you simply lost 25 bucks no physical harm should come of it.

Still, that was a LONG time ago, I would be worried about the name of the brand you purchase from. Some companies are shady, some are legit. I always liked CEL, RPN, PP for their reps here and their performance. Though RPN is gone I have still found some Havoc around (epi).
 
if i bought mdrol and took cycle assist during and PCS and torem after would i be fine, thats what i did for spawn and i had no sides
 
dothereject said:
if i bought mdrol and took cycle assist during and PCS and torem after would i be fine, thats what i did for spawn and i had no sides
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let me peer into my crystal ball... ahh... the vision is coming to me... yes, if you PCT with toremifene, you will get gyno. Oh, i see the titties jiggling. It will be bad gyno. That PCT won't work. I am sorry.

No one can tell you that stuff man. You know your body better than we do.
 
yea guess ur right cause that pct worked fine for me and no gyno, torem is better in my opinion than nolva or clomid because its the least toxic out of the three
 
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