First Injectable: TestE kicked with Superdrol

I dont think ill get to bad of side effects because im not trying to get ripped im going to put fat on my body cuz i weigh about 120 im going to try to get my self up to 125 130 first. Anyways im just getting a little help from this pill, im only going to take it untill i can see a difference then start working out the natural way..... will that work and will i still seee the difference????????? im not trying to make it a habit i just want to feel better about my self be able to take off my shirt and feel good. My body is the only thing thats makes me self concious so yeah ill post some pics soon nothing nice to look at right now, just skin and bone and some flab.... So u think i should do it , my plan is to eat a grip of carbs, iron, calcium, all that natural ****, get at least 10 pounds of fat on me before i get started. Then work out too , so for like a week or two all im going be doing is eatting the appropriate stuff and working out.after i get some fat and muscle on me i plan to start taking 2 or 3 epistanes a day for 2 or 3 weeks 20mg ones. Will i see a difference you think or what and will my body keep progressing once im off of it and working out naturally ???? Thanks man your the only one who has gave me good advice so let me know alright, later man. Write back please thankyou
 
chipmunk43 said:
I dont think ill get to bad of side effects because im not trying to get ripped im going to put fat on my body cuz i weigh about 120 im going to try to get my self up to 125 130 first. Anyways im just getting a little help from this pill, im only going to take it untill i can see a difference then start working out the natural way..... will that work and will i still seee the difference????????? im not trying to make it a habit i just want to feel better about my self be able to take off my shirt and feel good. My body is the only thing thats makes me self concious so yeah ill post some pics soon nothing nice to look at right now, just skin and bone and some flab.... So u think i should do it , my plan is to eat a grip of carbs, iron, calcium, all that natural ****, get at least 10 pounds of fat on me before i get started. Then work out too , so for like a week or two all im going be doing is eatting the appropriate stuff and working out.after i get some fat and muscle on me i plan to start taking 2 or 3 epistanes a day for 2 or 3 weeks 20mg ones. Will i see a difference you think or what and will my body keep progressing once im off of it and working out naturally ???? Thanks man your the only one who has gave me good advice so let me know alright, later man. Write back please thankyou
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steroids are def not for you right now. sounds like you haven't even been lifting at all and are ready to start steroids as soon as you do. i know guys your height that weigh over 200lbs naturally. start lifting, eating enough calories, getting enough protein, and getting enough sleep and you'll grow very quickly bc of your size. you could probably gain 35lbs naturally in the next year if you do things right.
 
chipmunk43 said:
I dont think ill get to bad of side effects because im not trying to get ripped im going to put fat on my body cuz i weigh about 120 im going to try to get my self up to 125 130 first. Anyways im just getting a little help from this pill, im only going to take it untill i can see a difference then start working out the natural way..... will that work and will i still seee the difference????????? im not trying to make it a habit i just want to feel better about my self be able to take off my shirt and feel good. My body is the only thing thats makes me self concious so yeah ill post some pics soon nothing nice to look at right now, just skin and bone and some flab.... So u think i should do it , my plan is to eat a grip of carbs, iron, calcium, all that natural ****, get at least 10 pounds of fat on me before i get started. Then work out too , so for like a week or two all im going be doing is eatting the appropriate stuff and working out.after i get some fat and muscle on me i plan to start taking 2 or 3 epistanes a day for 2 or 3 weeks 20mg ones. Will i see a difference you think or what and will my body keep progressing once im off of it and working out naturally ???? Thanks man your the only one who has gave me good advice so let me know alright, later man. Write back please thankyou
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YOU NEED MORE LIFTING EXPERIENCE, DIETING KNOWLEDGE , AND RESEARCH. YOU SHOULD NOT BE TAKING ANY STEROIDS AT ALL IN YOUR CONDITION. CHEERS, ANGEL77
 
angel77 said:
You lost your gains last time you ran super as well? What would you attribute that to? PCT? Diet? Just curious. I want to salvage as much out of my Super run as possible. Cheers Unreal, I hope the prop does you right.
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I don't know. Like i said in my first post, i've pretty much gained next to nothing from all the cycles I've run. I just chalk it up to not responding very well, as most of the cycles didn't even result in gains. I think i've got good genetics because I am relatively big considering i've only been lifting for a few years... when i started up weightlifting seriously I got my benchpress from 230 to 315 in about 6 months and my squats from about 265 to about 350 in the same time frame. And ever since then it's just been slow going. I started trying supplements and none of them did jack **** so i moved on and after dabbling in orals all i've found out is that SD is the only one that seems to work properly and that the gains are so fast that my body can't hold onto them.

When the gains dried up after Superdrol, i can't say what caused it. Not diet because I have a slow metabolism, tend to hold onto weight, and i was eating enough to maintain the weight -- it's just that, that level of calories resulted in fat being added even as muscle was lost.

In the end I just figure it's hard for me to hold onto gains and the only reason so many people retain gains so well here is because they're starting at a way less developed level. I see so many people on cycles here post screenshots and it looks like they've been lifting for maybe 1 year max. Granted I am not that impressive and still years and years away from my goals but obviously it's harder for me to keep gains than them.
 
day 59 234 (+14)

hit up some legs

Day 59 Legs

squats: 225*8, 295*6, 335*6, 355*4, 375*2
went heavy, it was just alright, it's better than when i started anyway

hack squats: 315*6, 275*10
i love repping out on hacks, it annihilates me

stiff legged deadlift (platform): 145*6, 245*6
stiff legged deadlift: 295*10, 335*8
i went up for some new all time high #s here.

calve raises (smithpress, toes on board): 285*25, 355*20, 375*20, 425*15
i gotta admit, these are good #s for me​


I feel like i always could have done stiff legged deadlifts so heavy, but my grip has been a limiting factor. Even on 335*8 the only reason i didn't do 10 is because my grip was slipping. Anyway though, i won't complain about the #s... my squats were better last week but calves were just great this week
 
You a fan of straps Unreal? Always a debate whether to use them or not - damn it I do for deadlifts if I need it - long as form as maintained.

Keep up the good fight! :bandit:
 
well i just started i need to gain up some more weight first and get healthiar im only doing it for a lil bit like 2 weeks to get a little jump start first f**k the haters i aint ruining my life with this **** i aint no idiot, i used to be wrestle in high school just lost it for a while trying to rebuild up some muscle u know i dont usually need **** like this but its a good deal and i want to know about it any answers or what is this stuff bunk
 
jakellpet said:
You a fan of straps Unreal? Always a debate whether to use them or not - damn it I do for deadlifts if I need it - long as form as maintained.

Keep up the good fight! :bandit:
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I've used straps before to do straight legged deads but back then i needed them just to do 315. I would use them if i had them but I don't and i'm poor. My grip lets me get pretty decent weight anyway. It's surprising because my hands hardly develop calluses.

chipmunk43 said:
well i just started i need to gain up some more weight first and get healthiar im only doing it for a lil bit like 2 weeks to get a little jump start first f**k the haters i aint ruining my life with this **** i aint no idiot, i used to be wrestle in high school just lost it for a while trying to rebuild up some muscle u know i dont usually need **** like this but its a good deal and i want to know about it any answers or what is this stuff bunk
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This is my thread, you want to talk about yourself then make your own thread.
 
Screw the straps buy some grippers. The 200 pound set would do you great. I used to have problems with deadlifts too.

Dumbell lunges help a lot too. The forearm pump from these are unreal.
 
Day 60 237 (+17)

Yesterday was Friday. Smoked lots of weed, ate lots of steak, stayed plenty hydrated. It was great... my body has always responded really well to steak, I can eat tons of it.

Helped me with the weigh in today but some water weight for sure.

Today was good, strength is starting to climb! YAY

Day 60 Chest and Biceps

incline bench: 185*8, 225*6, 245*6, 255*4, 265*3

dumbell curls (seated on incline bench): 60*8, 60*8, 65*6, 65*6
loved these sets, i forgot how much i like doing dumbell curls seated on an incline bench, gets some good contraction!

incline dumbell flys: 60*8, 65*6, 70*6, 75*5
dumbell flys are my favorite way to hit chest, these felt great and i went heavy

preacher curls: 95*8, 105*6, 85*8
what can I say... got so pumped I couldn't move my arms very much.. Haha.​


Good weight. Stupid pumps, just look at how pathetic those preacher curls are. My elbow's ROM was about cut in half. I really attribute this to pigging out on so much steak... I've done this before (ate a shitload of meat the previous night) and it did the exact same thing, high weigh in, good workout, ridiculous pumps). I am a big fan of the high meat, low carb diets by the way, my body can run so well on meat. Only reason i don't do this more often is because I obviously don't want to eat that much red meat (and its expensive!).

To give perspective on strength levels, i started this cycle @ 220 pounds and my last set on incline bench was 225*5. And yes, my bench does suck for my size, I think it's weak shoulders despite the fact that my deltoids are huge.
 
UnrealMachine said:
Yesterday was Friday. Smoked lots of weed, ate lots of steak, stayed plenty hydrated. It was great... my body has always responded really well to steak, I can eat tons of it.

Helped me with the weigh in today but some water weight for sure.

Today was good, strength is starting to climb! YAY

Day 60 Chest and Biceps

incline bench: 185*8, 225*6, 245*6, 255*4, 265*3

dumbell curls (seated on incline bench): 60*8, 60*8, 65*6, 65*6
loved these sets, i forgot how much i like doing dumbell curls seated on an incline bench, gets some good contraction!

incline dumbell flys: 60*8, 65*6, 70*6, 75*5
dumbell flys are my favorite way to hit chest, these felt great and i went heavy

preacher curls: 95*8, 105*6, 85*8
what can I say... got so pumped I couldn't move my arms very much.. Haha.​


Good weight. Stupid pumps, just look at how pathetic those preacher curls are. My elbow's ROM was about cut in half. I really attribute this to pigging out on so much steak... I've done this before (ate a shitload of meat the previous night) and it did the exact same thing, high weigh in, good workout, ridiculous pumps). I am a big fan of the high meat, low carb diets by the way, my body can run so well on meat. Only reason i don't do this more often is because I obviously don't want to eat that much red meat (and its expensive!).

To give perspective on strength levels, i started this cycle @ 220 pounds and my last set on incline bench was 225*5. And yes, my bench does suck for my size, I think it's weak shoulders despite the fact that my deltoids are huge.
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Sounds like a great day!
 
Day 61 235 (+15)

Hey, so I'm having trouble getting both prop and the HCG i'd need to keep this cycle going so long, and i'm in the NINTH WEEK now so i'm going to call it.

I got about 2.5 weeks left on my Test and so i'm starting T-Roid (19-nor tren xtreme clone, 30mg) @ 90a day now and i'll run it 2 weeks past the last inject and then start PCT. I'm going to have about 4.5 weeks on it then and probably run it like this 90/120/150/150/150(3days). I'm just hoping it works on me. Trenadrol... idk i did 9 days at 90mg and i felt 0 anabolic effects.

Lemme show yall the new outline for this ****
Wk,SD___Test___19-nor
1_10___600_____0
2_20___600_____0
3_20___600_____0
4_30___600_____0
5______600_____0
6______600_____0
7______900_____0
8______900_____0
9______900_____0
10_____900_____90
11_____900_____120
12_____________150
13_____________150
14_____PCT_START___
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I say Test because I don't know what else to call what i'm injecting, I know i started saying it was good, then i thought it wasn't working enough and it couldn't be test, or it must be underdosed... in the end I don't know, BUT I am feeling definite anabolic effects from it, my muscles have just been way too hard and the pumps have been huge. But no sense of well being, no aggression, no libido boost... I have gotten a couple pimples though. And my boys are feeling pretty small so for 100% sure there's something suppressing me and really none of the other steroids fits these effects at all. I am left back with my same conclusion as always, that my body does not respond properly to these compounds. It could be a combination of that and underdosed gear. But i've been at 900mg for weeks now and really not noticing much at all beyond hardness and pumps.

Your guess is as good as mine. I just know from my experience with orals that for some reason this **** doesn't work properly on me.

Anyway the workout today was good again, had crazy pumps going, definitely anabolics in effect...

Day 61 Back and a little Triceps

pullups (bench-grip width): *10, *10, *10, *8, *6, *8
got hard towards the end, that set of 6 i didn't rest long enough and my arms were too pumped to do enough ROM

triceps: did 4 dropsets on cable pushdowns, very intense

cable rows: 150*12, 170*10, 190*10

one armed machine rows: stack*12, stack*12
this is like a db row, i just max the machine out and rep it really hard, feels awesome​

You guys get used to seeing my low volume training yet... so pumped in the biceps i couldn't do much more. Before cable rows i tried to do bent over rows and my biceps were too pumped to bring the barbell up properly.

My biceps have been getting so pumped. Try to visualize this, I try to touch my left deltoid with my left fingers and can't get within 5 inches. That's what I'm talking about.
 
UnrealMachine said:
Hey, so I'm having trouble getting both prop and the HCG i'd need to keep this cycle going so long, and i'm in the NINTH WEEK now so i'm going to call it.

I got about 2.5 weeks left on my Test and so i'm starting T-Roid (19-nor tren xtreme clone, 30mg) @ 30mg a day now and i'll run it 2 weeks past the last inject and then start PCT.

I say Test because I don't know what else to call what i'm injecting, I know i started saying it was good, then i thought it wasn't working enough and it couldn't be test, or it must be underdosed... in the end I don't know, BUT I am feeling definite anabolic effects from it, my muscles have just been way too hard and the pumps have been huge. But no sense of well being, no aggression, no libido boost... I have gotten a couple pimples though. And my boys are feeling pretty small so for 100% sure there's something suppressing me and really none of the other steroids fits these effects at all. I am left back with my same conclusion as always, that my body does not respond properly to these compounds. It could be a combination of that and underdosed gear. But i've been at 900mg for weeks now and really not noticing much at all beyond hardness and pumps.

Your guess is as good as mine. I just know from my experience with orals that for some reason this **** doesn't work properly on me.

Anyway the workout today was good again, had crazy pumps going, definitely anabolics in effect...

Day 61 Back and a little Triceps

pullups (bench-grip width): *10, *10, *10, *8, *6, *8
got hard towards the end, that set of 6 i didn't rest long enough and my arms were too pumped to do enough ROM

triceps: did 4 dropsets on cable pushdowns, very intense

cable rows: 150*12, 170*10, 190*10

one armed machine rows: stack*12, stack*12
this is like a db row, i just max the machine out and rep it really hard, feels awesome​

You guys get used to seeing my low volume training yet... so pumped in the biceps i couldn't do much more. Before cable rows i tried to do bent over rows and my biceps were too pumped to bring the barbell up properly.

My biceps have been getting so pumped. Try to visualize this, I try to touch my left deltoid with my left fingers and can't get within 5 inches. That's what I'm talking about.
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15 lbs is a good gain in my book man.
 
hman85 said:
15 lbs is a good gain in my book man.
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Eh, at least half of it is fat. And the other half is probably the water weight and few pounds of muscle i'll lose in PCT. I've got to measure actual muscle gained by strength and my strength isn't so great.

Because I had a good WO yesterday my incline is up almost 30 pounds. My squats are up maybe 20 pounds. Pretty insignificant changes with all my other lifts, maybe a couple reps better on my curls.

I was stronger a month ago when i was at the end of Superdrol. And i was also stronger after I ran Superdrol for the first time, in fact that time I was stronger and I was about 5 pounds leaner. Guys lemme be honest, my progress here blows, and after this cycle i'm going to be done with anabolics for a while.

Net gains i've had from my 7 cycles now are going to be pretty slim especially after PCT. It's just not worth it to beat up my body and my wallet (which is empty) when this just doesn't work well on me. My genetics did all the work in getting here so it's going to be back to relying on them. Next up for me is trying to get to 8% bodyfat for a while, stay lean train natty for a long time...
Don't have the time, money, or patience to deal with this **** any more.
 
that one arm machine row, are you pulling horizontally or vertically because the only ones ive seen you pull horizontally. I ask because you said its exactly like a db row.

Ive had an expensive well planned cycle give me sh1t too. I felt like it was a waste and it really just gave me problems and sucked a bunch of money out of me. After PCT i wasnt up that much compare to all the stuff i ran but while i was running it i looked crazy mainly from the EQ. It was dissappointing and alot of times they turn up that way. If you think natty is best then really try to set a time limit at least because you will probably get tempted after 6 months, if you make it that long. You already have good build and genetics so you can sit back and be patient, just fine tune everything and have fun with it. Youre only 23 and you can always go back and try again when you hit 30 or something. Good luck bro with the decision and I hope the rest of the cycle treats you well.
 
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my deal is all the orals i've done (besides Superdrol) have not worked at all or have had effects far less than people normally get. This cycle was supposed to be the one that used an injectable to maintain the SD gains and achieve some good results but once again I'm getting way way less than I expected. These anabolics... I don't know what the problem is, the gains aren't really coming and eating more just results in more fat gain.

I do feel at this point that the test is building up more. It's weird but I think the effects from the injectable are still getting stronger, in the last few days my libido has started to rise above average and i'm getting pimples on my face and those are very rare for me. I just don't know why it took so long and doses SO high. This stuff shouldn't be that underdosed, it's not common.

I don't know how long i'll take off but I know I want to do some clen cycling and get my bodyfat to 8-9% while weighing in the 210-215 range. I want to do a cutting cycle with Tren but it'll have to wait for a while.
 
Day 62 234 (+14)

Ok well i have come to some conclusions

my test is underdosed

dunno how much but enough to make it weaker than it should be. Well that solves that

Good news: day 2 on the Tren Xtreme clone now and maybe it's in my head but I think my muscles feel wicked hard. Just damn solid.

The workout was just core training and cardio today. i never notice a difference when i'm ON when it comes to doing this stuff, no differences whatsoever.
 
UnrealMachine said:
Ok well i have come to some conclusions

my test is underdosed

dunno how much but enough to make it weaker than it should be. Well that solves that

Good news: day 2 on the Tren Xtreme clone now and maybe it's in my head but I think my muscles feel wicked hard. Just damn solid.

The workout was just core training and cardio today. i never notice a difference when i'm ON when it comes to doing this stuff, no differences whatsoever.
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Ya that **** musta been dosed at like 25mg/ml..lol

Hope you have better luck with the TrenX
 
Day 63 235 (+15)

gotta take today off i've been too busy studying, just forcing myself to take food breaks... my schedule will free up next week it's just crazy right now though

Weight is holding stable

Definitely more acne and increased libido... this started happening BEFORE i started dosing the 19nor so test is building up concentration still?

Since adding the 19-nor i think my muscles have gotten harder. Right now the hardness is pretty outrageous. This morning i got an arm pump from holding the overhead railing on the bus.
 
Its good to see it finally kicking in for you. You should try and get a blood test done. Did you get a test done before the cycle? If you have naturally very high test levels you would see less from all steroids and would need higher doses.
 
Day 64 235 (+15)

Been maintaining weight even while eating probably less than maintenance the last 2 days (been busy). This is good though, i feel like the anabolics are in strong effect and my gains are solidifying as fat is being recomped off. I am experiencing some GREAT hardness, it's really impressive. I've got a lot more confidence now that I can get my weight up a few pounds AND make it more solid before the end of this cycle.

Day 64 Shoulders

military press: 105*8, 155*6, 175*6, 195*6, 215*2
195*6 was a good set but the 215 didn't improve from last week, it's just damn heavy

upright rows: 135*10, 135*10, 135*10, 135*10, 145*10
These felt really good, definitely moved up because in the end i tried 145 and i could still rep it out for 10. Moving up!

dumbell raises (lateral): 35*12, 35*12
dumbell raises (front): 35*18, 35*16
dumbell raises (rear): 30*16, 30*18​

Good, quick shoulder workout. The military went alright, i've always sucked at it, but the upright rows have never felt so solid, i'm sure that next week I can hit my sets with 155. My raises went well too, just feeling solid and pretty strong for this workout.

I've got my fingers crossed hoping that the 19-nor might actually be working for me... I think it is. This muscular hardness is crazy and strength was up for this workout a noticable amount.
 
update in a GOOD way, i HAVE been able to source prop so consider me being stocked up and ready to roll this out for a while longer.

Considering that i'm finishing up Enanthate (that was underdosed and i feel has only recently started reaching real noticable levels) and that i'm on day 4 of 90mg 19-nor, i'm wondering how everything thinks i should run this prop.

I think that i should inject the rest of the enanthate and while it's clearing, start shooting prop 100mg eod. And after ~2 weeks (ester cleared) bump the prop to 100mg ed. Keep that up with the "tren" for 4 weeks more weeks. 100mg of prop and 120mg of 19-nor everyday is bound to have ****ing awesome effects. Opinions?
 
UnrealMachine said:
update in a GOOD way, i HAVE been able to source prop so consider me being stocked up and ready to roll this out for a while longer.

Considering that i'm finishing up Enanthate (that was underdosed and i feel has only recently started reaching real noticable levels) and that i'm on day 4 of 90mg 19-nor, i'm wondering how everything thinks i should run this prop.

I think that i should inject the rest of the enanthate and while it's clearing, start shooting prop 100mg eod. And after ~2 weeks (ester cleared) bump the prop to 100mg ed. Keep that up with the "tren" for 4 weeks more weeks. 100mg of prop and 120mg of 19-nor everyday is bound to have ****ing awesome effects. Opinions?
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I would do 125-150mg EOD.. I really don't think 700mg/wk is needed for your first test cycle. I think even at 100mg/eod you will make some great progress.
 
i forgot to mention that i've got HCG to help my recovery. I've got nothing stopping me from pushing some real doses... to me every cycle is about trying out a new compound and pushing the dose until i get a feel for it... ;)
 
Push it then bro. You are already shutdown. You have HCG and good PCT laid out. (correct?) If you dont push it you may come out of it thinkin you should have. You are planning to stop taking hormonals for a good while. This is not advice for everyone but for you specifically regarding your personal situation. Intelligent experimentation bro :thumbsup:
 
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I would do 125-150mg EOD.. I really don't think 700mg/wk is needed for your first test cycle. I think even at 100mg/eod you will make some great progress.
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700mg at his bodyweight and experience though? I personally see nothing wrong with him running 700-1000mg, especially as he can't confirm the dose. He may really be only seeing 400-500..
 
well i know i should be finishing the enanthate but I have injected a mL of prop yesterday and today and since i've got working test now, i'm discontinuing 19-nor. I like to try out compounds one at a time.
 
Day 66 237 (+17)

This is a good weigh in. I just got back from the gym and i messed up the workout. Tried to do legs without a spotter using more reps and I pushed too hard and almost threw up. Ended up doing 9 sets but every set I did took me right to the point of vomitting so I had to take it slow and in the end I just cut it short and left.

Now the good news is, because my stomach still feels like **** it's almost empty, but my weigh in is up 2 pounds. That means the weight is coming on! Oh man i'm excited, 245 pounds here I come.


And i'll be able to get some more quality training and diet in now. The last week was hell on me. I missed a few meals and my workouts were just OK. I was just extremely busy but now I got time to make this all work.

Something I should mention, although I had to cut my leg training short today, my quads got a massive pump in them. They don't usually get pumped like that!
 
Good to see the scale moving up for a change. I know you have lofty goals and it is good to see you are close to acheiving them.
 
Day 67 235 (+15)

Trying to get this weight up. No training partner today and i'm due for chest which needs a partner. I'm saving chest/tris for tomorrow so just hit biceps and abs today

Biceps/Abs

standing dumbell curls: 55*10, 60*10, 65*10
incline curls: 60*6, 55*6, 55*6, 60*6
concentration curls: 45*10, 50*8, 55*6
standing reverse grip ez curl bar: 115*6, 115*8

4 sets of abs​

Workout was good. It's really hard to tell if my strength has gone up recently here, but I think so. I've never done the 65's for 10 reps before. Also my recovery seemed funny... got burned out but after 5 minutes or taking a set to do abs, i'd come back to almost full strength. I'd call it good recovery so long as I take the workout slow.

Another thing to mention is i've been pinning the prop 100mg ed for 3 days now. I figure it won't be long before this starts working. Sorry that the log has been so confusing in terms of compounds used!
 
UnrealMachine said:
Also my recovery seemed funny... got burned out but after 5 minutes or taking a set to do abs, i'd come back to almost full strength. I'd call it good recovery so long as I take the workout slow.
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i have noticed the exact same thing. i get burned out and pumped so fast, but if i take a minute or two to rest then im good to go at full strength
 
Day 68 236 (+16)

I've been continuing the 100mg of prop ed. I've heard repeatedly that prop can be painful but mine feels just like the enanthate, it is completely painless. In fact i've only been injecting my quads and it's hard to remember which one i pinned the previous day because there's no pain or tightness to tell.

My workout was pretty normal. I would have thought that the test would really be coming in full swing now but I'll continue to be patient since i'm on a decent dose. As I type this i'm sipping a nice PWO shake with about 70g of protein and a little dextrose.

Chest/Triceps

incline bench: 185*6, 225*6, 245*6, 265*4
can't complain with this weight, way up since pre cycle but I did 265*5 at the end of Superdrol
switch to close grip incline: 205*10, 215*7

incline db flys: 55*6, 60*6, 65*6

incline bb frenchpress: 100*10*3
took it easy because these presses have a tendency to mess with my elbows

flat db flys: 50*6, 40*10, 40*10, 40*9
my chest was dead so i took the weight down and repped it out hard with a full ROM

rope pushdowns: 70*12, 80*9, 90*6​

It's a decent workout but i'm waiting for that ON feeling.
 
Day 69 235 (+15)

Day 5 of 100mg of prop ed :)

comments: confirmed that libido is up

Surprised my weight isn't up. I ate a ton yesterday including steak. I keep expecting to see the scale moving up and it's just not but this has been going on for weeks. I guess it'll take a while longer for test prop to kick in. I thought it would be quick because my test levels are already elevated. I'll have to keep being patient.

Today was nothing but back and it felt good, developed a decent pump

Day 69 Back

real T-bar rows: 2plates*10, 3plates*10, 4plates*10, 5plates*10, 5.5plates*4

bent over rows: 225*8, 235*8, 245*8

pull down machine (iso hammer style, weight per side): 90*10, 115*10, 140*8, 125*10

single arm row (like db row, iso hammer style, weight per side): 90*10, 115*10, 125*10, 140*10

then a couple miscellaneous sets of cable rows​

felt nice... waiting to see some real gains still but this felt good
 
keep it going unreal. i've also tried everything to bump my weight up a little...but no success. between the tren and the helios im just glad i am where i am
 
Day 70 233 (+13)

goddammmit my weight isn't moving up

Day 70 Shoulders

military press: 105*10, 155*10, 165*9, 175*7, 185*4

barbell shrugs: 195*20, 245*20, 265*20, 285*20

front dumbell raises: 35*18, 35*16
lateral dumbell raises: 30*20, 35*14
rear dumbell raises: 30*20, 30*20

upright rows: 105*10, 125*10, 125*10​

went for a higher rep, more volume based workout. The weight got low quickly as my muscles burned out but that's what happens when I train higher reps. It was a good workout though.

Day 6 of test prop and still waiting.
 
ur weight fluctuations are JUST like mine. i bet ur gaining muscle, but not as fast as ur burning fat.

size is always what i want. but ive come to the conclusion that a gain of 10lbs that are lean are FAR better than 20lb gains of muscle/water/fat. my weight has been about the same since week 3 and hasnt budged....but if that means that i'll keep everything in PCT...then thats fine by me
 
Great workout Unreal. Keep workin' hard. Underdosed or whatever, your definately getting something out of it.
 
no hcg yet

i forgot to add, with the prop i've got tight spots in my legs now. Nothing bad but i can definitely feel it. I couldn't feel anything a few days ago. It's pretty mild but some delayed tightness in the muscle. I pinned my left delt today so i'm bringing delts back into the rotation.

I feel the hardness and better pumps, but in terms of weight gain or strength gain i'm just not getting anything yet. I might be losing fat but it would have to be at a very very slow rate. Overall I look back at the past few weeks and all I see is maintenance at 235.

I started at 220 but I was way leaner then. my avatar is pre-cycle at 220. I look way better then. This prop better start doing something.
 
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