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First cycle, EP15STANE, thoughts?

FCS3817

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Background: 27 years old, 9 years lifting, 5ft8in, 177lbs, 3 natty cycles (triazole/activate, PES Erase/Activate x 2), and am looking to get some nice gains and bust this weight plateau I've been stuck on!

Daily Sups: Fish Oils, Cissus RX, Vitamins, Beta-Alanine, Creatine Mono
Pre Workout Sups: Assault, or Xpand, or C4
Protein: ON Whey, ON casein
Daily food: 3500, 200g protein

Plan:
EP15TANE 30/45/45/45/45/45
SUP3R PCT 0/0/0/0/0/0/4/4/3/3/2/1
Nolva 20/20/10/10
Damage Control 1 week pre through 2 weeks post (finish the 2 bottles)

I'll have some Taurine laying around in case I need it, anything else I should have on hand or add?

I'm just checking to see if the dosages all look about right for the cycle and PCT. Any thoughts, questions, or additions are more than welcome! I'm planning this out, nothing has been ordered, and until I get a solid plan down and am fully ready to commit 100% to concentrated gains I won't pull the trigger...rest be assured when I do I'll post results!
 
If Nolva is for PCT, looks good.

I personally would save the PWO for PCT though. It's when you'll need it.
 
Yep Nolva for PCT, and would the PWO cause painful pumps or something of the sort on cycle? I work long hours and sometimes like the energy boost they give me; but, I can find some other source of energy during cycle to avoid unnecessary supplementation.
and Hazard - I managed to add average 3 or 4 lbs per natty cycle, working hard at it...the last one I felt almost no difference and added no real size or weight - hence the Epi cycle.

Any advice on Epi brands, on cycle support, or AI PCT brand? I'm not necessarily settled, and am trying to get the best bang for my buck.
 
FCS3817 said:
Yep Nolva for PCT, and would the PWO cause painful pumps or something of the sort on cycle? I work long hours and sometimes like the energy boost they give me; but, I can find some other source of energy during cycle to avoid unnecessary supplementation. and Hazard - I managed to add average 3 or 4 lbs per natty cycle, working hard at it...the last one I felt almost no difference and added no real size or weight - hence the Epi cycle. Any advice on Epi brands, on cycle support, or AI PCT brand? I'm not necessarily settled, and am trying to get the best bang for my buck.
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Olympus Labs is the best bang for your buck for epi, their are loads of cycle supports choose one that you like the ingredients/dosages.
 
FCS3817 said:
Yep Nolva for PCT, and would the PWO cause painful pumps or something of the sort on cycle? I work long hours and sometimes like the energy boost they give me; but, I can find some other source of energy during cycle to avoid unnecessary supplementation.
and Hazard - I managed to add average 3 or 4 lbs per natty cycle, working hard at it...the last one I felt almost no difference and added no real size or weight - hence the Epi cycle.

Any advice on Epi brands, on cycle support, or AI PCT brand? I'm not necessarily settled, and am trying to get the best bang for my buck.
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PWO's may increase your blood pressure but it's very individual.

I of course recommend Olympus Labs EP15TANE. Other good brands are Ironflex, Celtic Labs, LGI and RPN. Can't go wrong with any of them - compare prices and pick the cheapest one. One bottle of our Epi equals to two bottles of other Epi clones and nutri-verse.com is giving out 10% off discount codes for first time customers.

AR1MACARE PRO is a good all in one cycle support product - it has TUDCA in it.

SUP3R PCT is great OTC AI/test booster. It keeps estrogen and cortisol under control (arimistane), controls prolactin (mucuna pruriens) and elevates testosterone with the help of several ingredients. 4/4/3/3/2/1 is a good dosing protocol and one bottle is enough.

You could throw in DAA as well. I prefer sodium-D-aspartate because it's more soluble than free DAA. SNS DAA is sodium-D-aspartate and it's pretty cheap in powder form.
 
Ok, cool - I'll grab some DAA to add to the PCT - thanks for the advice! I think I'll stick with the EP15STANE and SUP3R PCT, looks like a good blend of ingredients and dosages for nice price.
 
FCS3817 said:
Ok, cool - I'll grab some DAA to add to the PCT - thanks for the advice! I think I'll stick with the EP15STANE and SUP3R PCT, looks like a good blend of ingredients and dosages for nice price.
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Sounds good. I always start in the last week of my cycle but I don't think it matters much.
 
Another question: I hear there may be some lethargy from this cycle. Any recommendations as to what I can take or do to help mitigate this?
 
FCS3817 said:
Another question: I hear there may be some lethargy from this cycle. Any recommendations as to what I can take or do to help mitigate this?
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4-AD (=4-DHEA nowadays)
Stano (epiandrosterone, I prefer it over 4-DHEA)
Trest (it's the best option but I would save it for your next cycle)
Transdermal DHEA (I'm not a fan of it though)
Caffeine if it doesn't elevate your BP on cycle
 
Any recommendations for Stano brand and dosage? After some quick research I see its non-methyl so I suppose it won't add any dangerous sides. Besides some energy, what else will stano do for me?
 
FCS3817 said:
Background: 27 years old, 9 years lifting, 5ft8in, 177lbs, 3 natty cycles (triazole/activate, PES Erase/Activate x 2), and am looking to get some nice gains and bust this weight plateau I've been stuck on!

Daily Sups: Fish Oils, Cissus RX, Vitamins, Beta-Alanine, Creatine Mono
Pre Workout Sups: Assault, or Xpand, or C4
Protein: ON Whey, ON casein
Daily food: 3500, 200g protein

Plan:
EP15TANE 30/45/45/45/45/45
SUP3R PCT 0/0/0/0/0/0/4/4/3/3/2/1
Nolva 20/20/10/10
Damage Control 1 week pre through 2 weeks post (finish the 2 bottles)

I'll have some Taurine laying around in case I need it, anything else I should have on hand or add?

I'm just checking to see if the dosages all look about right for the cycle and PCT. Any thoughts, questions, or additions are more than welcome! I'm planning this out, nothing has been ordered, and until I get a solid plan down and am fully ready to commit 100% to concentrated gains I won't pull the trigger...rest be assured when I do I'll post results!
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cycle looks good to me!

FCS3817 said:
Another question: I hear there may be some lethargy from this cycle. Any recommendations as to what I can take or do to help mitigate this?
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I usually just use caffeine

FCS3817 said:
Any recommendations for Stano brand and dosage? After some quick research I see its non-methyl so I suppose it won't add any dangerous sides. Besides some energy, what else will stano do for me?
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600-800mgs

cut you up a little, or at least it did to myself
 
600mg/day is the bare minimum IMO. If you buy two bottles (90x200mg), you could run it at 800/800/800/800/1000/1000. It's one of those compounds that are better at bigger dose IMO.

It will dry you up a bit, make your libido better and keep lethargy under control. It won't add much if anything to your gains though.
 
I added it in my 2nd week of halodrol and I'm glad I did. My libido is still great and it's had a nice hardening effect. Stacks well with halodrol or epi for sure.
 
Looks like Nutri-Verse is out of damage control, they're offering to replace it with Ar1macare Pro, which is alll fine and dandy, except I don't think I want, nor need Armistane in my on-cycle support, especially with Epi. I know I've seen g0hardorgohom say there should be no problem, but I feel like I'll be a little bit too dry. Any thoughts?
 
FCS3817 said:
Looks like Nutri-Verse is out of damage control, they're offering to replace it with Ar1macare Pro, which is alll fine and dandy, except I don't think I want, nor need Armistane in my on-cycle support, especially with Epi. I know I've seen g0hardorgohom say there should be no problem, but I feel like I'll be a little bit too dry. Any thoughts?
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If you're taking fish oil and glucosamine, you should be fine imo.

But if you're really worried, look into a different on cycle support with TUDCA in it
 
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