I'd love one but I'm in UK
I would be all about providing feedback should supplies allow and you believe the experience worthwhile for the AM members.N
Not a thing. Just try and let me know what you think.
Keeping in mind it doesnt have a flavoring system in place in the samples. Its got some sucralose and tastes a bit like caramel.
I have used a few of these myself and they have been exceptional.
Just enough stim for a normal person.
What's your stim intake like?I would be all about providing feedback should supplies allow and you believe the experience worthwhile for the AM members.
Lipodrene Elite or None. Non-Stim Preworkout atm and a Boom while making phone calls at another point in the day. Ive used plenty of high stimulant Preworkouts but my performance suffers as my training intensity has jumped up quite a bit.What's your stim intake like?
I agree.That is how pre-workouts should be
lower stim, focus on nootropics , pump, endurance, and optimizing performance in the gym
not 400-600mg stim bombs.
It's true that one dose is hard to judge and, as such I will make some suggestions to the testers so as to maximize the perceived effects.I'd also be down to try a sample. Im not a big fan of stim heavy pres so im really hoping this works out in terms of a performance based pre. I dont really know how good the feedback can be off of a single workout just do to the multiple factors that can be at play that can cause you to have a good or bad workout, but id be down to give some feedback based on performance parameters (top end strength, endurance, strength endurance would be my big ones). I am also not a pump chaser, nor do I really train for pumps to be honest.
I feel even 300mg is a bit too much (for me). The 2 I’ve enjoyed that are 300mg+ are the ones from CL and Nutrabio, and those have theanine to smooth it out a bit.That is how pre-workouts should be
lower stim, focus on nootropics , pump, endurance, and optimizing performance in the gym
not 400-600mg stim bombs.
Yeah, that formula seems to work okay. I just seriously hope they came up with something far better then this during their 4 year testing process done on this product.I feel even 300mg is a bit too much (for me). The 2 I’ve enjoyed that are 300mg+ are the ones from CL and Nutrabio, and those have theanine to smooth it out a bit.
For me, ~200mg caffeine + 1.5g tyrosine + 2g ALCAR is a solid boost in energy, mood, and focus
We didYeah, that formula seems to work okay. I just seriously hope they came up with something far better then this during their 4 year testing process done on this product.
Spill some..We did
Once we are in the process of manufacturing I'll put out a label.Spill some..
And that would be me. ThanksI think there is a good chance we will be releasing a JUST stim product as well.
I noticed there are alot of guys who will take a pre workout product just for the stims. Meaning they take them at work or school etc because they are stimulating. Of course this defeats the purpose and why take al these extra ingredients that will be worthless in these cases. So a stim only product will give people the choice to add some stims to the pre if they want or just stim out if they want.
It makes more sense to have these products separate.And that would be me. Thanks
It makes more sense to have these products separate.
A pre without heavy vascular constriction, increased Blood pressure and heartrate, thickening of the blood and overall performance decrease.
And a stim than can be taken without the additional ingredients (and costs associated with them) for those just looking for stimulation.
Combine if you want but I think people should have a choice.
Hi Brundel, By when do we expect the (pre) product to hit the manufaturing line?Once we are in the process of manufacturing I'll put out a label.
He's answered this several times in this thread alreadyHi Brundel, By when do we expect the (pre) product to hit the manufaturing line?
I don’t think there is anything wrong about asking for an updated eta on this product.He's answered this several times in this thread already
This sounds good right hereAwesome.
1) Pump, focus, non-stim or non CNS stim or very low stim
2) Nitrates and L-Citrulline
3) Everything, but the kitchen sink copies of each other / too much stim and too much reliance on stim's.
One piece at a time for maximum efficacy.Brundel is now throughly testing out tubs and lids for the next 5 years ready for pre orders
I do understand the BA being lowered as many prefer to take multiple times per day and I know of plenty of customers that will NOT take a pre if it tingles too much. These people do not want to hear about clinical doses they just know that they feel temporarily uncomfortable and in this day and age peoples tolerance for anything other than easy and comfortable is almost ZERO, lol,Seems like alot of people like this type of formula. A testament to this is all of the products out there that look like this albeit with lower doses of everything.
This is also confusing to me....Why have a product with a dozen ingredients and none of them have doses high enough to be viable. Of course its done because the vast majority of customers dont know the difference. Scammy stuff.
Its a clinically studied ingredient and I like it in a pre as then I do not have to take it elsewhere. I could care less about feel and simply like not having to buy another bottle of something to take at another time. I understand what you mean about feel and know many that would dismiss a pre after one or two doses if they don't feel anything....these people would also be complaining about long ester test if they ever used it lol.If theres beta alanine in this pre I will not be buying. I really hope you wouldnt do that, Brundle. I definitely dont see BLR as a company that would do that but i just want to say thatd be massively disappointing. Those of you who would like BA in a pre, i would love to hear why? The feelz, bro?
Something about June maybe.The preworkout that was promised!
So is this actually coming soon or like The Winds of Winter coming soon?
For sure no BA in it. I HATE the pins and needles feeling from it. Its uncomfortable and distracts me.I do understand the BA being lowered as many prefer to take multiple times per day and I know of plenty of customers that will NOT take a pre if it tingles too much. These people do not want to hear about clinical doses they just know that they feel temporarily uncomfortable and in this day and age peoples tolerance for anything other than easy and comfortable is almost ZERO, lol,
Personally, I would like a pre that actually increased gains, if this is done via an increase in performance so be it. I like to either gain muscle or lose fat from a workout supplement. Pumps are easy for me personally, even on a keto diet I get a pump it simply does not last as long.
The goal is JuneThe preworkout that was promised!
So is this actually coming soon or like The Winds of Winter coming soon?
Have you looked into CarnoPrime? This will be a new ingredient which gets rid of the BA tingles but gives you the properties of Beta Alanine for Performance and EnduranceFor sure no BA in it. I HATE the pins and needles feeling from it. Its uncomfortable and distracts me.
I have compared BA to other things we have in the formula and ours seems to be much better at improving performance.
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