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Finaflex 1-andro and PNI prodigy log

DreamWeaver said:
Yah you could .. and yes it will :)
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Hmm looks like that cycle just got a little more finaflexed. I was excited about this cycle and still am but boy is this next one going to be something killer. Will most definitely be logged.
 
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Everyone should check out that video. Truly inspirational.
 
Gym time:dance:
 
PREracing25 said:
Gym time:dance:
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Day 36 - 154.5

Seems that my weight has leveled off which might be because of not enough cals. I kinda feel like I am still gaining but am not totally sure. I felt great in the gym this morning. Me and my buddy moved a bunch of weight. I did do standing BB curls starting at 90 degrees and going up. I did 75 for 8 I believe. I know 75 is not a ton after we all watch Mack crush like 135. I think on Friday I am going to give it another go and push for 85 at least. I am starting to do wrist curls everyday to try and strengthen my wrists a little more to help with curls and bench. Now I did to BB curls but today was a leg day which felt good for once but again still kept it lite to avoid screwing up my knees or groin.

Well to give you all some info on my next cycle it is looking like this. Cycle will be starting in February or march.

Day 1 - 30 - Finaflex 1-alpha
Day 31 - 60 - Finaflex Epi-V
Day 1 - 60 - PNI Thermadex
Day 1 - 60 - Finaflex 550-xd

This well all be powered by ignite 2. PCT Rev black with also be run on cycle with super cissus and taurine.
 
lineup looks good, I guess thermadex is a test booster ?

You could add some crea-trona during PCT I think you will be glad you did... I will hit the Crea-trona hard during pcit...
 
DreamWeaver said:
lineup looks good, I guess thermadex is a test booster ?

You could add some crea-trona during PCT I think you will be glad you did... I will hit the Crea-trona hard during pcit...
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That would be a nice kick in PCT. I always like creatine there anyway.
 
DreamWeaver said:
lineup looks good, I guess thermadex is a test booster ?

You could add some crea-trona during PCT I think you will be glad you did... I will hit the Crea-trona hard during pcit...
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The thermadex is a fat burner. Howwedo could give you more info. I know I'm putting a fat burner on top of epi-v if its to much I can always take it out after alpha as it does not need to be cycled.

As far as crea-tona is concerned I forgot add that, I have some due to the bogo on epi. I generally run creatine on cycle and pct 5g a day with my first protein shake. Can I just do the same with crea-tona? Also would the dosage be the same at 5g? Perform will also be run during cycle and during PCT to prevent any libido loss.
 
PREracing25 said:
The thermadex is a fat burner. Howwedo could give you more info. I know I'm putting a fat burner on top of epi-v if its to much I can always take it out after alpha as it does not need to be cycled.

As far as crea-tona is concerned I forgot add that, I have some due to the bogo on epi. I generally run creatine on cycle and pct 5g a day with my first protein shake. Can I just do the same with crea-tona? Also would the dosage be the same at 5g? Perform will also be run during cycle and during PCT to prevent any libido loss.
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Yah 5 grams would be fne...

No test booster, I would throw in some Pure Test. Libido is only one reason to recover from shutdown you want your test levels back up to maintain gains. Do not cut during PCT, you should be peaking with the Epi-v...
 
I'm the worse at posting stuff DW lol. Just like my pct for this cycle il be using DAA also so there is the test booster. The thermadex won't be run in pct so I don't plan on cutting during pct.
 
PREracing25 said:
I'm the worse at posting stuff DW lol. Just like my pct for this cycle il be using DAA also so there is the test booster. The thermadex won't be run in pct so I don't plan on cutting during pct.
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Also DW I was. Going to use ignite 2 as a PWO. However I see it has to be cycled. Seeing what it does should I save it and run it with pct to maintain gains seeing as I have enough going on?
 
Day 37 - 155.0


Well guys had a pretty damn good work out this morning. Told myself not to do anything but cardio and core work. I'm happy I stuck to it. I'm planning a big bi and tri day on Friday so trying to give everything a rest but my core and legs. So like I said it was a good work out. I'm running out of perform which sucks, I'm still waiting on my NP order to ship out so I can be restocked and there is some stuff for the next cycle in there as well. So far side on this cycle, lower back pumps (solved with 8g of taurine ED split 4/4), back acne (solved with glytone back acne spray), no loss of libido or shut down but i have been on perform the whole cycle. I'd rather prevent something then fix it later. So far so good guys.
 
PREracing25 said:
Day 37 - 155.0

Well guys had a pretty damn good work out this morning. Told myself not to do anything but cardio and core work. I'm happy I stuck to it. I'm planning a big bi and tri day on Friday so trying to give everything a rest but my core and legs. So like I said it was a good work out. I'm running out of perform which sucks, I'm still waiting on my NP order to ship out so I can be restocked and there is some stuff for the next cycle in there as well. So far side on this cycle, lower back pumps (solved with 8g of taurine ED split 4/4), back acne (solved with glytone back acne spray), no loss of libido or shut down but i have been on perform the whole cycle. I'd rather prevent something then fix it later. So far so good guys.
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Day 38 final day. Gym soon update after.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Ah all things mist end :(
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Yes but my weight took a move last night which il update on after the gym. Also DW since your here right now. Think I should go ahead and start PCT tonight with the 2 caps of black or hold off till tomorrow night. I am very happy at this time and will post up a review after the gym.
 
PREracing25 said:
Yes but my weight took a move last night which il update on after the gym. Also DW since your here right now. Think I should go ahead and start PCT tonight with the 2 caps of black or hold off till tomorrow night. I am very happy at this time and will post up a review after the gym.
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Your good either way really...
 
Final Day

Day 38 - 157.6 (19.6lbs)

Well guys today is my final day and tomorrow will start PCT. I will be logging my PCT right here for all the people following so you dont have to sub to another thread.

It was a good day in the gym and I felt great. Andro did a wonderful job as you can see. I gained 19.6lbs and am going to do my best in PCT to keep as much as I can so I can lean out and tighten up in March. Thank you everyone for sticking with me and following this log. You guys keep me motivated to keep going. Pictures will be posted tonight I hope. Maybe tomorrow morning before I eat.
 
Final Review before PCT (Unsponsored)
　
Starting weight 138, Finishing weight before PCT 157.6 (19.6)

Strength Increase 7/10... I know you are probably saying "He gained 19.6lbs and he gave it a 7." I gave it a 7 because it was my first cycle so I did account that I may gain more then normal. I will say that this converted very nicely for me though. I know the big thing with 1-andro is conversion. If it converts well then you will make some solid gains. If it does not convert well then you may not.

Libido 5/10... I give libido a 5 because it did not increase and it did not decrease. Remember though I was taking perform thoughout my entire cycle so I would have to say that helped it not decrease.

Acne 4/10... So I did in fact have an issue with back acne. Again the acne only showed up on my back and no where else. However once I started using glytone on my back its slowly starting to go away. Be thing is it prevented any further development.
Back Pumps 6/10... Il be honest the back pumped were awful. I give it a 6 because they were bad but as soon as I got on 8g of taurine and day they were no longer an issue.

Recovery 7/10... Again I am giving this a 7 because it is my first cycle. I did recover great after my workouts and in between sets. Its like in my mind I said ok rest 90 seconds. 30 seconds later i was doing another set. I just couldnt wait around I just had to do another set.

Final Review 8/10... In the end guys Finaflex 1-andro was great. I surely enjoyed it and am very happy that I used it as my first cycle over something else. The sides were not bad and the gains were plenty enough to offset any of the sides that I did in fact have. Plus all the sides I was able to control with supporting supplements so sides are deffinetly no problem.
I would like to give a big shout out to all the guys that followed my log and to all the guys that I sent messages to with questions. The finaflex reps are incredible and anwsered any and all questions that I had for them. Much respect for the company and that is why my next cycle is a finaflex cycle. Thank you guys for a fantastic product.
 
19 lbs! Wow. Lol. That's a huge gain bro. I'll be curious as to how you hold that through PCT.
 
Rahl said:
19 lbs! Wow. Lol. That's a huge gain bro. I'll be curious as to how you hold that through PCT.
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Thanks Rahl like I said I am new and its my first cycle so I did expect a little more then someone who has done a cycle before. I did put on some fat to but I plan on trimming up and tightening a bit in mid February or march.
 
PREracing25 said:
Thanks Rahl like I said I am new and its my first cycle so I did expect a little more then someone who has done a cycle before. I did put on some fat to but I plan on trimming up and tightening a bit in mid February or march.
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That's cool man. Just don't make the rookie mistake of cutting cals in PCT. and remember overall that you're carrying more mass than before and in order to hold it your maintenance calories are higher now. Don't under eat.
 
Rahl said:
That's cool man. Just don't make the rookie mistake of cutting cals in PCT. and remember overall that you're carrying more mass than before and in order to hold it your maintenance calories are higher now. Don't under eat.
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Exactly, I plan on carrying on doing the same I am now and after pct. just keep slamming the food down my throat. I don't plan on dropping cals until mid march when I'm on epi-v and thermadex.
 
For what 1-andro is 19.6 is very good even for a newb.. this is not one of those harsh products that adds a bunch of water weight the gains are very dry. I would never expect anything more with this type of product. Personally for me it's the quality of the gains over the quantity.

I think the fact that your libido did not go down warrants a higher rating. I know you were taking preform but shutdown is shutdown I can't see where a herbal product like that would make a difference either way. So shutdown was not strong and that is significant or what we would really try to assess in this situation.

Otherwise great review and thanks ...

Good call on keeping the cals up for a while...
 
DreamWeaver said:
For what 1-andro is 19.6 is very good even for a newb.. this is not one of those harsh products that adds a bunch of water weight the gains are very dry. I would never expect anything more with this type of product. Personally for me it's the quality of the gains over the quantity.

I think the fact that your libido did not go down warrants a higher rating. I know you were taking preform but shutdown is shutdown I can't see where a herbal product like that would make a difference either way. So shutdown was not strong and that is significant or what we would really try to assess in this situation.

Otherwise great review and thanks ...

Good call on keeping the cals up for a while...
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Thanks for the kind words DW. I know the rating should have been higher on libido. Tonight I have the final 2 caps of andro and then tomorrow il start pct with formasurge after my shower at the gym. Lets see where pct takes me and how much of this I can keep. I'm just keep the mind set that I'm still on. Which mean gains are still coming. My goal for pct max loss of 5lbs and the extreme goal would be lose none gain some.
 
PREracing25 said:
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Everyone should check out that video. Truly inspirational.
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WOW Brother thanks for sharing this link! I just put it up on my Facebook I was so moved by it and that was after going to watch the extended cut of it too.

PREracing25 said:
Final Review before PCT (Unsponsored)
　
Starting weight 138, Finishing weight before PCT 157.6 (19.6)

Strength Increase 7/10... I know you are probably saying "He gained 19.6lbs and he gave it a 7." I gave it a 7 because it was my first cycle so I did account that I may gain more then normal. I will say that this converted very nicely for me though. I know the big thing with 1-andro is conversion. If it converts well then you will make some solid gains. If it does not convert well then you may not.

Libido 5/10... I give libido a 5 because it did not increase and it did not decrease. Remember though I was taking perform thoughout my entire cycle so I would have to say that helped it not decrease.

Acne 4/10... So I did in fact have an issue with back acne. Again the acne only showed up on my back and no where else. However once I started using glytone on my back its slowly starting to go away. Be thing is it prevented any further development.
Back Pumps 6/10... Il be honest the back pumped were awful. I give it a 6 because they were bad but as soon as I got on 8g of taurine and day they were no longer an issue.

Recovery 7/10... Again I am giving this a 7 because it is my first cycle. I did recover great after my workouts and in between sets. Its like in my mind I said ok rest 90 seconds. 30 seconds later i was doing another set. I just couldnt wait around I just had to do another set.

Final Review 8/10... In the end guys Finaflex 1-andro was great. I surely enjoyed it and am very happy that I used it as my first cycle over something else. The sides were not bad and the gains were plenty enough to offset any of the sides that I did in fact have. Plus all the sides I was able to control with supporting supplements so sides are deffinetly no problem.
I would like to give a big shout out to all the guys that followed my log and to all the guys that I sent messages to with questions. The finaflex reps are incredible and anwsered any and all questions that I had for them. Much respect for the company and that is why my next cycle is a finaflex cycle. Thank you guys for a fantastic product.
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Excellent and fair review! Would you mind copying and pasting this into the actual review area here on AM as well?
 
MrKleen73 said:
WOW Brother thanks for sharing this link! I just put it up on my Facebook I was so moved by it and that was after going to watch the extended cut of it too.

Excellent and fair review! Would you mind copying and pasting this into the actual review area here on AM as well?
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Yeah no problem kleen
 
DreamWeaver said:
For what 1-andro is 19.6 is very good even for a newb.. this is not one of those harsh products that adds a bunch of water weight the gains are very dry. I would never expect anything more with this type of product. Personally for me it's the quality of the gains over the quantity.

I think the fact that your libido did not go down warrants a higher rating. I know you were taking preform but shutdown is shutdown I can't see where a herbal product like that would make a difference either way. So shutdown was not strong and that is significant or what we would really try to assess in this situation.

Otherwise great review and thanks ...

Good call on keeping the cals up for a while...
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I don't think that there is anything wrong with his libido rating DW. If it did not have any effect one way or another on libido then I think a 5 is a perfect score. 1-Andro is not a androgenic product and most people have no increase or a tiny one at first then a decrease in it towards the end. Also Perform not only has PD5 inhibitors in it but A LOT of things that free up testosterone which is one of it's MOA's. So even if he was slightly shut down it could have kept his libido from dropping due to increasing the free levels of testosterone even when the serum levels were lower than in the beginning. Perform more than likely was a factor in him not losing much of his libido.
 
MrKleen73 said:
I don't think that there is anything wrong with his libido rating DW. If it did not have any effect one way or another on libido then I think a 5 is a perfect score. 1-Andro is not a androgenic product and most people have no increase or a tiny one at first then a decrease in it towards the end. Also Perform not only has PD5 inhibitors in it but A LOT of things that free up testosterone which is one of it's MOA's. So even if he was slightly shut down it could have kept his libido from dropping due to increasing the free levels of testosterone even when the serum levels were lower than in the beginning. Perform more than likely was a factor in him not losing much of his libido.
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Correct I kinda did libido as 1 if it was lost and shut down occurred, 5 being no change, 10 being massive increase.
 
MrKleen73 said:
I don't think that there is anything wrong with his libido rating DW. If it did not have any effect one way or another on libido then I think a 5 is a perfect score. 1-Andro is not a androgenic product and most people have no increase or a tiny one at first then a decrease in it towards the end. Also Perform not only has PD5 inhibitors in it but A LOT of things that free up testosterone which is one of it's MOA's. So even if he was slightly shut down it could have kept his libido from dropping due to increasing the free levels of testosterone even when the serum levels were lower than in the beginning. Perform more than likely was a factor in him not losing much of his libido.
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I have to agree with Kleen on this one.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Wholly fug that vid was inspirational going up on my facebook as well...
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You got that right, it's crazy.
 
DreamWeaver said:
It's wonderful has to be shared...
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I'm glad you guys are sharing it.

Also I am having one problem now and I sent a message to DD about it. I have warmed my formasurge in warm to hot water and shook the heck out of it to get it to mix and it still come out clearish with some white chunks. Maybe it is suppose to be kinda thin and kinda clear but the white chunks I have to get out. I'm not sure what color it's suppose to be.
 
PREracing25 said:
I'm glad you guys are sharing it.

Also I am having one problem now and I sent a message to DD about it. I have warmed my formasurge in warm to hot water and shook the heck out of it to get it to mix and it still come out clearish with some white chunks. Maybe it is suppose to be kinda thin and kinda clear but the white chunks I have to get out. I'm not sure what color it's suppose to be.
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Never mind got it all sorted out.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Form will do that heat a shake :)
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PCT Day 1 - 157.4

Had a crazy workout today. Really pushed it hard for the first day of PCT. I wanted to see if I was really gaining some muscle.

Started out and hit 85 for 5 on standing BB curl going from 90 degrees and up. After that my buddy and I rocked out some warm up sets on flat bench. Then I went ahead and smashed a PR at 165x3. Felt like I could have maybe got 2 more but did not want to push it. All and all it was a fantastic work out. Applied to 2 pumps of formasurge to my forearms and then rubbed it into my abs. It's dries pretty quick. I think the bottle says and hour but I doubt that very much. Il apply 2 more pumps tonight along with my 2 caps of PCT black and 3g of DAA.
 
The first week of PCT is usually pretty good, there will be some residual from the cycle so get your momentum going for week 2 ....
 
DreamWeaver said:
The first week of PCT is usually pretty good, there will be some residual from the cycle so get your momentum going for week 2 ....
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That's game plan, keep rolling. Trying to kill the gym the next 4 weeks, lets see how much weight I keep. I know the formasurge is going to pull out some water weight and tighten up a bit so I know il lose some there, just need to replace it with muscle.
 
You bout to rock them gains!
 
Mack411 said:
You bout to rock them gains!
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They to catch up to you lol. Need to eat extra today, might have burned off some serious calories last night. Have I said that my libido I not shot. And I'm deff. Not shut down. Ran out of perform last night though. 2 bottles will be here tomorrow
 
PCT Day 4 - 157.8

well up .2 pounds since the end of cycle. I'm pretty tight on money the next 2 weeks so I am really hoping to keep the cal intake up but I can only do what my pocket allows. Had a damn good work out this morning. Hit legs and core. I had an idea to try box squats and it was a great idea. Took a ton of stress off my knees which made me happy. Granted I still took it easy at 140. I have to do it on a smith machine which I hate doing squats on a smith. I'm not counting the bar as weight. I think il start hitting legs alittle harder. Nothing to really update on the front of pct. I mean no sides or anything. Acne is almost gone and I have stopped the use of glytone. I couldn't have been happier with that product. So much better then trying to jam a crap ton of B5 down your throat. Going to do a 10 minute warm up cardio tomorrow morning but that's pretty much all the cardio for this week. I'm going to put an end to cardio in pct so I'm not losing gains but burning a **** ton of cals. Vascularity is not up it honestly did not really change on cycle either which I found weird. Well boys lets see where this goes.
 
If box squats is a relief for the knees then you might be going too far forward on your regular squats. The purpose of box squats is to prevent you from doing that. You want to mimic the motion on your real squats.
 
DreamWeaver said:
If box squats is a relief for the knees then you might be going too far forward on your regular squats. The purpose of box squats is to prevent you from doing that. You want to mimic the motion on your real squats.
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I also had a feeling that I might just be going to deep. Again my knees have always bothered me since I was 14 something to do with growing. I also hit the back stretch wall in my race car head on at about 60. Might not seem to fast but concrete does not move. Lets just say I hit my knee pretty hard off of something. They found nothing wrong with it between X-rays and an MRI so it is what it is.
 
That's awesome,I hope to keep gaining thru my pct!diet and calories are just as if not more important in pct as on cycle IMO.i love box sweats,they help get regular squats better quicker than anything!
 
Mack411 said:
That's awesome,I hope to keep gaining thru my pct!diet and calories are just as if not more important in pct as on cycle IMO.i love box sweats,they help get regular squats better quicker than anything!
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I'm just happy to have a good leg day for once. Leg days have just been pissing me off. But whatever we will se where my pct goes.
 
Don't try to keep the same volume you had during your pct, stick with lower volume but high intensity. That is the best way to keep the muscle mass. Still go heavy so the body knows it needs to keep that muscle just do less sets per exercises or less exercises. Your recovery is not going to allow you to go full tilt with both like when on.
 
PREracing25 said:
I'm just happy to have a good leg day for once. Leg days have just been pissing me off. But whatever we will se where my pct goes.
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I'm glad ya did too.i had a terrible leg day today!
 
MrKleen73 said:
Don't try to keep the same volume you had during your pct, stick with lower volume but high intensity. That is the best way to keep the muscle mass. Still go heavy so the body knows it needs to keep that muscle just do less sets per exercises or less exercises. Your recovery is not going to allow you to go full tilt with both like when on.
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Nice info Kleen, il knock it down to like 3 sets instead of 6. Just get t the heavier weight faster.
 
Mack411 said:
I'm glad ya did too.i had a terrible leg day today!
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I had a bunch of those. Just rebound and kill something else.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Don't try to keep the same volume you had during your pct, stick with lower volume but high intensity. That is the best way to keep the muscle mass. Still go heavy so the body knows it needs to keep that muscle just do less sets per exercises or less exercises. Your recovery is not going to allow you to go full tilt with both like when on.
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Yah that's a good idea...
 
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