FDA Warning that was sent to me

luclyluciano said:
Gotcha! It's all true though is it not? Hormonal products called dietary supps, etc. I thought I read that Epistane was used as breast cancer treatment or something like that!!!!!!!!!!!!! How can they make this Illegal????????????????????????? Man am I pissed! But I can see why they are doing it.
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Without a prescription r medical use...it's not like they are telling hospitals that they cannot use a steroid to help burn/hiv victims...
 
Ha-Ha you more funny!!!!

Would the govt bust into owners homes of beer breweries in the dark of night to start a ban on products that were/are legal, without new legislation, after debate?

This is far worse than any govt action I'v ever seen in my 50 years, and it TERRIFIES me far beyond the fact that I will have to pay alot and search far and wide to get something I want. This IS facist bull**** and I hope some manufacturers take the govt to court and win against this. (oh well just an idealist wish).
 
jtornese said:
Ha-Ha you more funny!!!!

Would the govt bust into owners homes of beer breweries in the dark of night to start a ban on products that were/are legal, without new legislation, after debate?

This is far worse than any govt action I'v ever seen in my 50 years, and it TERRIFIES me far beyond the fact that I will have to pay alot and search far and wide to get something I want. This IS facist bull**** and I hope some manufacturers take the govt to court and win against this. (oh well just an idealist wish).
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I dont fear for us. I fear for our children.
 
I do agree that the government is getting way too powerful, but I doubt they will actually ban all prohormones this time...looks like they are just going after that 1 company because they had 5 complains...5 people can mess it up for the whole world
 
I disagree; sources tell me that the first round a few years back was nothing compared to what is in store. This does not look good.
darkshadow said:
I do agree that the government is getting way too powerful, but I doubt they will actually ban all prohormones this time...looks like they are just going after that 1 company because they had 5 complains...5 people can mess it up for the whole world
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PegasusActual said:
You won't see me on a day that doesn't exist, LOL. :stupid:
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You'll see....


Matthew 12:36-41

"But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment."

"For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned."

"Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee."

"But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:"

"For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."

"The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here."

John 12:48

"He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day."

Acts 17:30-31

"And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:"

"Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead."

2 Corinthians 5:10

"For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad."
 
^^^ for as much as I am a Christian, and knowing how many dead end arguments I have been in, how many thread jacks, and how many times I have screwed up...

Let us all drop this part of the discussion from the thread mate. And focus on the loss of our PH's soon to come. That of which I just realized includes formestane... SO I am beyond pissed.

Sigh....I wish I had stockpiled PH's like I wanted to back when I had the chance...
 
People are talking about the dark side and revolution. 2 of the thing I incompuse most. Join me brethren. Our time has come.

Now, if I could only find the damn keys to the Death Star.
 
B5150 said:
Both of you extreme, left and right, zealots are wrong. The number one, conclusive, un-disputable piece of evidence that supports the causes for divorce is - MARRIAGE!

Now STFU and leave religion, God, Jesus and the 8lbs 6oz baby Jesus out of the discussion of steroid legislation.
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What did I say?

Don't make me take my belt off!
 
hardknock said:
Contrary to belief, there is more than just a few hundred thousand people buying "otc" steroids, gray market, fence dancing, etc from the internet. If each person who purchases were to take a stand, it would be humongous, yet, very few are going to admit that they are taking or buying. I agree that if the fda would regulate all of this, at least, you can still have most of it, and can have legal outlets which can help to educate people on the subject. This would make tons of money, so, it's not about the money so to speak. It is that they want to get rid of the whole thing due to it being the "popular" decision. When I tell you that I know of SOME people who work for the fda and THEIR own relatives are using some of these "drugs", it's laughable.

Guess who's house will never be raided...pathetic, but true.
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Law Enforcement personnel are some of our biggest, and coolest, customers in person. They're people, just like us for the most part - but their survival unfortunately depends on the choice they make to enforce an unconstitutional law or not.
 
dsade said:
Law Enforcement personnel are some of our biggest, and coolest, customers in person. They're people, just like us for the most part - but their survival unfortunately depends on the choice they make to enforce an unconstitutional law or not.
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I have a few friends who are officers. They are cool, and actually hate doing their job with a passion. They talk about having to take children from their parents, writing tickets to jobless people, etc,etc. Its a job that inherently today makes them bad guys to most. There are some cool ones, we have a couple here who even if they catch you with something like a small amount of weed, they smack your hand like a kid, literally, rub it in the ground, and tell you to go home.

IMO thats a cool cop, who knows its not really right to ruin someones career/life over something that small. But if his seargent or an offical was there, guess what would have to happen...

Though there are some complete D1ickhead cops who hate everyone, and try to make others lives miserable for it.
 
PegasusActual said:
The FDA borders on fascism. I mean I like living in the US but it has some serious control issues when it comes to it's citizens. We should be allowed to make our own choices with this sort of thing.

Don't even get me started on legalizing weed or porn age limits. Oh but it's ok at 18, while your head is still up your arse in terms of life experience, to sign up for politicians ****ty wars and get slaughtered or traumatized. But don't smoke weed or watch a Max Hardcore video!! No no no!!! Jesus doesn't like that!
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Not for nothing but wasn't that whole max hardcore thing a state issue?
 
dave12 said:
Not for nothing but wasn't that whole max hardcore thing a state issue?
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Wow...I missed this. As repugnant as I find the whole situation, I'd still defend his right to make that crap.

Freedom isn't always pleasant.
 
Zero V said:
Let us all drop this part of the discussion from the thread mate. And focus on the loss of our PH's soon to come. That of which I just realized includes formestane... SO I am beyond pissed.
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Whoa! I never thought I would see the day that you passed up an opportunity to argue religion. :blink:
Zero V said:
Sorry feeling quite uppity this afternoon after using my own concoction of happiness pills :laugh2:
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Ahhhh, so this is the reason, eh? :toofunny:

In all seriousness, your cool point meter went up 10 points for passing that chance
up. I am indeed impressed! It's nice to see you laid back.
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dsade said:
Freedom isn't always pleasant.
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Indeed, Matt. We cannot pick and choose what constitutes ones pleasure over an others, all we can do is either tolerate it, or try to ignore it. Freedom isn't all about rainbows and pretty little pink unicorns. Hell, I've never even seen a real life rainbow... pfffft, f*cking myths!

By the way, did you get my PM?
 
B5150 said:
I been trying to get him medicated for months now. :)
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Har Har :surprised:

Iron Lungz said:
Whoa! I never thought I would see the day that you passed up an opportunity to argue religion. :blink:

Ahhhh, so this is the reason, eh? :toofunny:

In all seriousness, your cool point meter went up 10 points for passing that chance
up. I am indeed impressed! It's nice to see you laid back.
:clap2:
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No I have just finally had some breakthroughs on things that pretty much made me very angry/depressed/frustrated inside. Since then, I have been altering a lot of how I act and what I say/do. IT was both stupid/oxymoronic to argue religion out of anger :laugh2:

New motto I created "A man isn't thinking if he thinks he will always think the same way tomorrow that he thinks today"

I do appreciate the compliments, it lets me see I am actually making some progress in change.

dsade said:
Freedom isn't always pleasant.
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Indeed. Ironically one of the biggest issues that arise out of us desiring steroids to be legal, is that they also have to deal with weed, and other drugs, who's users would scream out for decriminalization if steroids weren't so sought after for prosecution.
 
Just a couple things to keep in mind, it does seem like soon ph's may be gone, however, there will probably still be some time to purchase them and we may be able to get some good deals. Also, remember, is probably best to only be "on" for about 12-16 weeks out of the year, so a couple of bottles here and there can turn into a couple years for many. For those who are wanting to stock wayyy up, after the ban these are illegal to sell, please do not, for your sakes, think about selling bottles of phera, hdrol, etc. 2-3 years from now if they are illegal as you could be setting yourself up for making a bad decision. It does stink that this is going to happen, but lets keep our heads and try not to do anything rash. No reason to run up credit card debt, or put off other important purchases to stockpile ph's.
 
isoc said:
Just a couple things to keep in mind, it does seem like soon ph's may be gone, however, there will probably still be some time to purchase them and we may be able to get some good deals. Also, remember, is probably best to only be "on" for about 12-16 weeks out of the year, so a couple of bottles here and there can turn into a couple years for many. For those who are wanting to stock wayyy up, after the ban these are illegal to sell, please do not, for your sakes, think about selling bottles of phera, hdrol, etc. 2-3 years from now if they are illegal as you could be setting yourself up for making a bad decision. It does stink that this is going to happen, but lets keep our heads and try not to do anything rash. No reason to run up credit card debt, or put off other important purchases to stockpile ph's.
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A smart dealer, who has never been caught once told me. Sell only to friends, and don't get greedy, and you wont have a problem.

Also to always listen to your stomach. If it says it s a bad time, it s a bad time, leave or don't do anything.

It would be funny though, to call off a deal with someone, and tell em your stomach told you so.

The reason 95% of dealers of any substance get taken in is because of greed/sloppiness. I am not in any way advocating selling illegal AAS, I am just saying, the intelligent people who do, usually do not have issues.

Lets say you take a 200$ worth of investment into something, and in 4 hours turn it into 600$, the addiction that can bring in to money, and the greed it can induce, ruins alot of people.
 
I just read in a NY Times article from July 29 that Tren Xtreme has had users complain of liver and kidney damage, gynecomastia and some users have even stroked out. I don't know if i'd be stocking up on that...
 
janey86 said:
I just read in a NY Times article from July 29 that Tren Xtreme has had users complain of liver and kidney damage, gynecomastia and some users have even stroked out. I don't know if i'd be stocking up on that...
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NY times? Owned by whom?

Let's see the proof rather than propaganda.

Sorry guys, we saw the way they twisted the ephedra stories into lies. Your credibility as impartial news is shot.
 
janey86 said:
I just read in a NY Times article from July 29 that Tren Xtreme has had users complain of liver and kidney damage, gynecomastia and some users have even stroked out. I don't know if i'd be stocking up on that...
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You are right. I'm going to go buy a carton of cigarettes, liter of 151, and go to my doctor and get a prescription for Avandia. :blackeye:
 
EVILADAMS said:
You are right. I'm going to go buy a carton of cigarettes, liter of 151, and go to my doctor and get a prescription for Avandia. :blackeye:
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Ban weed and steroids, but endorse cancer sticks, liquid liver fire, and pharma drugs that help 1 thing, but try to kill you with 6 other issues.

Gotta love America!
 
I saw it for $16 on clearance ;)
 
qwerty33 said:
how is trenadrol still being sold on amazon? its at like 60$.
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The ban is not effective, nor will it be for a short time. I would not pay 60$ for trenadrol...If I was gona spend 60$ on anabolics there are MUCH better deals out there, definitely not available on amazon :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:
 
qwerty33 said:
do you know the shelf life of h-drol and topical forme?

Is ATD going to get banned as well?
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Well you got at least until the exp date + a couple years imo, there are people who have ran prebans from 05 lately, still getting results. Vacuum seal a bag and put in in your fridge, and it could go a decent amount of time.

As for topical form, not sure in liquid state. If you get bulk powder it should be good for some time to mix with a carrier(such as NP's penetrate, which is how I made mine) but for final confirmation lets wait for some one better versed in this >.>

I do know I seen a conversation about that not working well with epi because of its oxidation though, not sure.

Also unsure about ATD :paranoid:
 
qwerty33 said:
dont have it in my poss. thinking about stocking up on h-drol and topical form
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Formestane I think we will see live on by certain means....h-drol though will likely see the complete end of its life. Especially since it is not a very potent PH to begin with.
 
end of its life like not being made any more?

and form in bulk + penetrate you mean so it it will live on?
 
qwerty33 said:
end of its life like not being made any more?

and form in bulk + penetrate you mean so it it will live on?
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halodrol I think will be gone for good.

And no bulk form itself will also be illegal. I wont go into how it will live on, when that time comes you may or may not learn of it. But why give the idiots banning things more ideas atm?
 
qwerty33 said:
end of its life like not being made any more?

and form in bulk + penetrate you mean so it it will live on?
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halodrol I think will be gone for good.

And no bulk form itself will also be illegal. I wont go into how it will live on, when that time comes you may or may not learn of it. But why give the idiots banning things more ideas atm?
 
true and agreed but i may have to pm you when that time comes :). I just orderd 3 h-drol and 2 cel form for my next 2 cycles
 
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