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Fav EPISTANE ClONEs

Ibe epistane the best!!!
 
I've only used Epi-Strong, but it was fantastic.

I have some of the LGI Epi-10 stashed away (that was supposed to have actually tested at 11mg/cap).
 
steppinRazor said:
What!!! and you rep for NTBM? could've sworn i seen you at the "epi-strong is gone forever, buy some now" thread
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took some time off the forums completely. i just started back up with the company today.

last i recall from that event everyone in the company was saying it would be gone soon, but there were always bottles left to sell lmao... figured there was plenty left

but i guess it was true, they were limited :(
 
ahhh yes.. those threads did go on for like 2 or 3 months..even said it was sold out for good like 3 times, then stock suddenly reappeared.

maybe im thinkin of the transaderm vs demacrine threads...yeah thats where i remember you from..lol was some comedy gold goin on over there
 
Do u know why they stop producing epi strong? It's probaly one of there best seller/popular epi around. It's not on the ban list that i know of. Superdrol for example has lots of heat and suppose to be ban but beastdrol is still being produced
 
dannyn2007 said:
Do u know why they stop producing epi strong? It's probaly one of there best seller/popular epi around. It's not on the ban list that i know of. Superdrol for example has lots of heat and suppose to be ban but beastdrol is still being produced
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wish i knew - maybe with there being so many other clones floating around, they just werent selling enough. SD is rumored to be banned sometime this year..so beastdrol is def being pimped out at their site right now
 
steppinRazor said:
ahhh yes.. those threads did go on for like 2 or 3 months..even said it was sold out for good like 3 times, then stock suddenly reappeared.

maybe im thinkin of the transaderm vs demacrine threads...yeah thats where i remember you from..lol was some comedy gold goin on over there
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lulz

yea i've been involved in some pretty comedic threads :D

dannyn2007 said:
Do u know why they stop producing epi strong? It's probaly one of there best seller/popular epi around. It's not on the ban list that i know of. Superdrol for example has lots of heat and suppose to be ban but beastdrol is still being produced
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i really have no idea.

you're right, DEA has got their eyes on SD thats well known, it has already been studied and documented to produce jaundice in the literature, some big companies have been sued by consumers over it, and if iirc a stereoisomer of SD had already been banned in 05 (i think)... yet it continues to be sold over and over. you would think bill gates himself is lobbying for f*cking superdrol
 
chocolatemilk said:
lulz

yea i've been involved in some pretty comedic threads :D

i really have no idea.

you're right, DEA has got their eyes on SD thats well known, it has already been studied and documented to produce jaundice in the literature, some big companies have been sued by consumers over it, and if iirc a stereoisomer of SD had already been banned in 05 (i think)... yet it continues to be sold over and over. you would think bill gates himself is lobbying for f*cking superdrol
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I've seen you posting and i know your intelligent so i had to ask, i know superdrol was banned I'n 05' and cloned again. Now the clone is soon to be banned, is there a possibility to clone a clone (superdrol)?
 
dannyn2007 said:
I've seen you posting and i know your intelligent so i had to ask, i know superdrol was banned I'n 05' and cloned again. Now the clone is soon to be banned, is there a possibility to clone a clone (superdrol)?
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:lmao:
 
dannyn2007 said:
I've seen you posting and i know your intelligent so i had to ask, i know superdrol was banned I'n 05' and cloned again. Now the clone is soon to be banned, is there a possibility to clone a clone (superdrol)?
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How you gonna clone a clone?? Lol
 
Just get IBE epistane...
 
dannyn2007 said:
I literally laugh at my posting. Just out of curiosity tho i mean i don't see it impossible
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Well doing a clone of clone is pretty much same thing...that means its already ban before even coming on market....
 
punjabimunde said:
Just get IBE epistane...
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I never tried Ibe epistane, I'm not bashing it. But saw somewhere online a while back that it was underdose. It was 3.4mg per cap instead of 10mg. I could be wrong. I'll try to find the post.
 
dannyn2007 said:
I never tried Ibe epistane, I'm not bashing it. But saw somewhere online a while back that it was underdose. It was 3.4mg per cap instead of 10mg. I could be wrong. I'll try to find the post.
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No way....I'm using rite now and I'm up 3lbs in 7days...usually epi don't kick in till week 2...my strength went up...my arms looks bigger and leaner...I still have 4weeks to go...just imagine...
 
dannyn2007 said:
I've seen you posting and i know your intelligent so i had to ask, i know superdrol was banned I'n 05' and cloned again. Now the clone is soon to be banned, is there a possibility to clone a clone (superdrol)?
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when something gets banned, it is the nomenclature that gets banned

you'll notice all sd out today is listed as the beta isomer. however, there is some thought that the beta isomer is worthless so what's actually in the bottle is the alpha. i guess when they ban the beta in the coming time... companies can start labeling it as the alpha isomer, which it really is lol.

other than that, the only other stereocenter is carbon 2. so you can rearrange the 2a-methyl to become 2b-methyl and that would be another stereoisomer of SD.

however it is important to note that stereoisomers can exert completely different properties... so the chances of cloning the clone and getting a functional steroid resembling SD in properties are extremely small
 
punjabimunde said:
No way....I'm using rite now and I'm up 3lbs in 7days...usually epi don't kick in till week 2...my strength went up...my arms looks bigger and leaner...I still have 4weeks to go...just imagine...
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Just look it up on google. It was 3-4 years back i believe. Someone mention pat Arnold also tested it too. It's probaly dosed correctly now. Never tried it. I can't say anything bad. Just saying what i read a while back. I just looked it up and u can still find it on google.
 
punjabimunde said:
No way....I'm using rite now and I'm up 3lbs in 7days...usually epi don't kick in till week 2...my strength went up...my arms looks bigger and leaner...I still have 4weeks to go...just imagine...
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thats awesome man..what dose are you running?
 
steppinRazor said:
thats awesome man..what dose are you running?
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I'm running for 5weeks...30/40/40/40/50

So far no sides or anything bad...
 
chocolatemilk said:
when something gets banned, it is the nomenclature that gets banned

you'll notice all sd out today is listed as the beta isomer. however, there is some thought that the beta isomer is worthless so what's actually in the bottle is the alpha. i guess when they ban the beta in the coming time... companies can start labeling it as the alpha isomer, which it really is lol.

other than that, the only other stereocenter is carbon 2. so you can rearrange the 2a-methyl to become 2b-methyl and that would be another stereoisomer of SD.

however it is important to note that stereoisomers can exert completely different properties... so the chances of cloning the clone and getting a functional steroid resembling SD in properties are extremely small
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That's what I've been reading. Mdrol was the most talked about using the b isomer but later tested as an a isomer. It was a misprint. Done on purpose? Probaly. Like u mention, companies can start labeling it as an a isomer now. Did u ever hear anything about the DEA are trying to ban all prohormone once and for all? I read somewhere if it's related to a steroid it's ban and they don't need to go through approval and hassle.
 
punjabimunde said:
I'm running for 5weeks...30/40/40/40/50

So far no sides or anything bad...
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nice! i tried epi at 30-40mg i didnt really get much out of it. 60mg seems to be my sweet spot..

that said, im running it right now.. week 2 and just bumped up to 60mg :D
strength gains are comin in strong - and theres plenty more on the way...as far as sides, nonexistent - thanks to transaderm
 
chocolatemilk said:
when something gets banned, it is the nomenclature that gets banned

you'll notice all sd out today is listed as the beta isomer. however, there is some thought that the beta isomer is worthless so what's actually in the bottle is the alpha. i guess when they ban the beta in the coming time... companies can start labeling it as the alpha isomer, which it really is lol.

other than that, the only other stereocenter is carbon 2. so you can rearrange the 2a-methyl to become 2b-methyl and that would be another stereoisomer of SD.

however it is important to note that stereoisomers can exert completely different properties... so the chances of cloning the clone and getting a functional steroid resembling SD in properties are extremely small
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SD was never actually banned in 05. The FDA sent the company selling it (AX at that time I believe) a letter recommending that they stop selling it or face possible consequences. AX took the advice and stopped selling it, but SD was never legally "banned" per say and was not scheduled by the DEA as a controlled substance at that time. This time it looks like it's going to be scheduled by the DEA.

Nobody ever purposely manufactured or sold a 5b isomer. This would back fire quickly because the 5b isomer of androgens have little to no activity due to the conformational change caused by 5b reduction. As someone else said, any label listing a 5b isomer is probably a misprint.
 
steppinRazor said:
nice! i tried epi at 30-40mg i didnt really get much out of it. 60mg seems to be my sweet spot..

that said, im running it right now.. week 2 and just bumped up to 60mg :D
strength gains are comin in strong - and theres plenty more on the way...as far as sides, nonexistent - thanks to transaderm
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Wow 60 is high lol...well good luck bro...this is my first ph cycle and it's fun already...can't wait till week 3...that's when real gains start coming lol....
 
dannyn2007 said:
That's what I've been reading. Mdrol was the most talked about using the b isomer but later tested as an a isomer. It was a misprint. Done on purpose? Probaly. Like u mention, companies can start labeling it as an a isomer now. Did u ever hear anything about the DEA are trying to ban all prohormone once and for all? I read somewhere if it's related to a steroid it's ban and they don't need to go through approval and hassle.
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it would make the most sense to ban all PH, since their are alot of different compounds that havent hit the PH market yet. They ban one and soon a new one hits the market. I hope they come up with something great here soon.
 
Rhadam said:
No love for CEL e-stane??? Wowowowow
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I heard there's lots of bunk e stane....not sure but heard alot
 
heckler7 said:
it would make the most sense to ban all PH, since their are alot of different compounds that havent hit the PH market yet. They ban one and soon a new one hits the market. I hope they come up with something great here soon.
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a few new ones are out/going to be out by IBE. boladrol is a year or 2 old, trenavar just came out, and mentabolan or whatver u call it is on presale. methylsten/ultradrol is pretty new cause the ones produced before was tested to be superdrol. hopefully they stay out for awhile.
 
Rhadam said:
Bought 2 bottles, used em and found them to be potent and legit. Just picked up 2 more bottles. I've heard from reputable sources that e-stane is legit. Have no reason to doubt CEL really.
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Yea I kno CEL is one of the legit company but they did had some issues with e stane...but I think they fixed it already...
 
dannyn2007 said:
a few new ones are out/going to be out by IBE. boladrol is a year or 2 old, trenavar just came out, and mentabolan or whatver u call it is on presale. methylsten/ultradrol is pretty new cause the ones produced before was tested to be superdrol. hopefully they stay out for awhile.
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its promising, but so far nothing is close to trenx. Would be nice to see something you can take longer and get a more fuller cycle.
 
jason79 said:
SD was never actually banned in 05. The FDA sent the company selling it (AX at that time I believe) a letter recommending that they stop selling it or face possible consequences. AX took the advice and stopped selling it, but SD was never legally "banned" per say and was not scheduled by the DEA as a controlled substance at that time. This time it looks like it's going to be scheduled by the DEA.

Nobody ever purposely manufactured or sold a 5b isomer. This would back fire quickly because the 5b isomer of androgens have little to no activity due to the conformational change caused by 5b reduction. As someone else said, any label listing a 5b isomer is probably a misprint.
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yea i guess that's what happened in 05... nothing banned
 
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