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Excelsior pre workout

cfisher52986 said:
Were you all aware that predator was out of stock and just restocked again a couple days ago ? Do you think they will switch to a new batch again or will it be the white 11/25 again? I have on on the way 🤞😬I’m gonna be kinda pissed if it’s not the white one
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The previous red 5/24 was grainy and strong in its own way but in that I felt a bit weird and almost got depressed kind of stoned lol.
With 11/25 mood has been continuously great I am just a bit curious about the batch Justjoe7989 got in a 11/25 tub with no ridges on sides of the top of the tub. You said that was really long lasting? Although they screwed with sleep too badly those were still the most amazing doses
 
muscleman said:
The previous red 5/24 was grainy and strong in its own way but in that I felt a bit weird and almost got depressed kind of stoned lol.
With 11/25 mood has been continuously great I am just a bit curious about the batch Justjoe7989 got in a 11/25 tub with no ridges on sides of the top of the tub. You said that was really long lasting? Although they screwed with sleep too badly those were still the most amazing doses
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Yes had to do a scoop and a quarter but lasted about 8 hrs no ridges on the top dark tub when put to light you can see a red hue bought it from predator about three months ago
 
I was just thinking about the side effect of central nervousness and brain feeling hot after over a week of continued use of Excelsior 11/25 is not anything I recommend. Not scooping high but its pretty active in its own strange way lol
 
muscleman said:
aaah I guess your n tve U,S ? Otherwise I would be really interested. In trading unopened 11/25 witj ridhesfor 11-25 without ridhes?

@zufir whenyou wrote strong as fuark I thougjt it wAs gonna be stronger. But do your tubs lid have ridges on tbe edge pf tbe tub?
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From the 8 tubs of 11/25 I have, they all have ridges. Some have a red hue and some are fully blacked out
 
tstrogo93 said:
Thanks bro I have a black 5/24 and a red 6/24 black 5/24 is powder flower. Red 6/24 is half powder w big nerd chunks of red and off yellow in it
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I read your post and realized this is some degenerate lingo but I understand everything you wrote 😂

06/24 black tub is the only old tub that had inconsistent texture and the only tub I researched deeply because it’s the version that had a long restock time before imperial came out with red tubs.

You can’t go wrong with black 06/24 though.
 
tstrogo93 said:
I honestly never really tried it. I took a break from this for a while testing the red 6/24 again.

I remember the red 6/24 did work just at a higher dose

do you have any experience w the 5/24?
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Yes I have a black tub of it as well.. it definitely works as far as energy and focus but makes me kinda anxious and wired if I do a whole scoop so I stick to a half usually
It’s hard to describe it just makes me feel kinda “weird”. I think any stimulants come with some weirdness on higher doses but this one stands out a little on the weirdness scale
 
cfisher52986 said:
Hopefully it’s the same powder inside then 😓might be new powder with old labels otherwise why did they start selling 11/25 if they still had an older batch 🤔
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They started selling both of them at the same time about 7-8 months ago doesn't make sense but nothing with excelsior makes much sense!!
 
cfisher52986 said:
Hopefully it’s the same powder inside then 😓might be new powder with old labels otherwise why did they start selling 11/25 if they still had an older batch 🤔
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Justjoe7989 said:
10/25 was awesome!!!
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Awesome compared to what other tub? Was your 10/25 red? I had a black 10/25 and I didn't enjoy it very much the 11/25 gave so much better pretty much instantly only now after having gotten addicted I feel a bit tired after 9 days but only about .08 morning and 0,5 top up
 
Hello. I purchased a tub from predator EXP: 10/2025 with lot number IN093221. I purchased after it was out of stock for a while. It was not the excelsior I have used before. Ive tried excelsior since 2017 and have at max one tub per month. I am aware of excelsior fluctuating but this was the worst batch I had. This batch was not the excelsior I had before and was not worth it at all. I was close to buying no more if it continued again. I noticed it went out of stock again. Once it was in stock again I bit the bullet and to my relief it was good excelsior again. The batch I have is a red tub with white granules. The EXP: is the same 10/2025 but Lot number is IN093189 this one was good compared to my last one.
 
Justjoe7989 said:
They started selling both of them at the same time about 7-8 months ago doesn't make sense but nothing with excelsior makes much sense!!
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yeah they switch up. go from 6/24 then sell 5/24 then 6/24 then 4/24 all for fun and keep the obsessed crew bit curious and confused, after all if all Excelsior tubs were created alike all these profound discussion about varying effects Would never take place! Then how would you guys spend your time if not reading and writing comments in here!!? :ROFLMAO:
 
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Awesome compared to what other tub? Was your 10/25 red? I had a black 10/25 and I didn't enjoy it very much the 11/25 gave so much better pretty much instantly only now after having gotten addicted I feel a bit tired after 9 days but only about .08 morning and 0,5 top up
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I believe it was red it was more like the 1125 red specks one but different it was just awesomeness good stuff
 
Smash def has something reminiscent of OG exelsior.

The key is to split the dose up in thirds like a half hour apart.

when it all hits at once it’s too much.
 
tstrogo93 said:
Smash def has something reminiscent of OG exelsior.

The key is to split the dose up in thirds like a half hour apart.

when it all hits at once it’s too much.
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Trying this right now
3 grams at a time every hour , see what happens. Couldn’t sleep need something that actually works today
 
muscleman said:
I am glad the rehab preacher within me reached you! I am thinking of rehabbing myself again as we speak. I was quite enjoying 11&25, I have been enjoying it with good mood but continuously all stims are draining.
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Well, quitting Excelsior is not really difficult in my case as most of the time I have to force myself to take it. A few days ago I wanted to take around 3g of 08/2023 to finish the tub and I ended up taking just a little bit over 2g. When I started repeating in my mind "An overpriced toxin" as I drank it, it was not intended to force myself to quit, it was just me wondering how just sipping slowly a bottle with 2g could put me on the brink of a panic attack but to this day I don't know if it's psychological because the feeling seems to have somewhat "transferred" to other PWOs that never had that side effect. It's complex to know when the reaction is physical, psychological or both feeding off each other. Anyway almost anything is better than living with ADHD symptoms on a daily basis, not only because the anhedonic feeling of not being able to focus on anything sucks on its own, but also because it tends to get you in trouble when people who talk to you feel that you are not listening, you interrupt when it's not your turn to speak, etc. I am shocked that you could read the whole Lord of the Rings trilogy, I could probably not read a whole page without standing up or get lost reading lines without understanding what I am reading.

tstrogo93 said:
Red or black tub?
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My 06/24 is in a red tub. I think it's the best Excelsior I have ever taken. It works for ADHD and it does not have this edgy feeling I dislike so much. It is a great tool and not an overpriced toxin like 08/23-black is.

zufir said:
I read your post and realized this is some degenerate lingo but I understand everything you wrote 😂

06/24 black tub is the only old tub that had inconsistent texture and the only tub I researched deeply because it’s the version that had a long restock time before imperial came out with red tubs.

You can’t go wrong with black 06/24 though.
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Is it true you used to take 2 whole scoops of Excelsior? Did you weigh them? Were you really taking 12g in one sitting? Did you try this with black 8/23 tubs?

tstrogo93 said:
Smash def has something reminiscent of OG exelsior.

The key is to split the dose up in thirds like a half hour apart.

when it all hits at once it’s too much.
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That's what I've been doing with every preworkout: prepare it in the morning and finish it at night, slowly sipping throughout the day. I have always felt quite frightened seeing people gulping their stim junkie PWO all at once. "It is intended to be used that way" doesn't matter, a predictable effect that you can modulate on the go is much safer than not being able to go back into the past to take less, a sustained release stimulant is more useful and less damaging than an instant release one (see nicotine as an example).

When taking 1/3 of scoop, does the yohimbine still ruin the experience? Can you still feel the hidden ingredient at that dose?
 
junetwentyfour said:
Is it true you used to take 2 whole scoops of Excelsior? Did you weigh them? Were you really taking 12g in one sitting? Did you try this with black 8/23 tubs?
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3 scoops from the newer batches. (06/24 red tubs and up) and 2 scoops from 06/24 black batches and below but I never weigh them. I just make sure the scoop is full
 
junetwentyfour said:
When taking 1/3 of scoop, does the yohimbine still ruin the experience? Can you still feel the hidden ingredient at that dose?
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The yohimbe definitely is lessened and barely noticeable , but the speshal focus ingredient is still working👍I am definitely going to experiment more with this method
 
junetwentyfour said:
Well, quitting Excelsior is not really difficult in my case as most of the time I have to force myself to take it. A few days ago I wanted to take around 3g of 08/2023 to finish the tub and I ended up taking just a little bit over 2g. When I started repeating in my mind "An overpriced toxin" as I drank it, it was not intended to force myself to quit, it was just me wondering how just sipping slowly a bottle with 2g could put me on the brink of a panic attack but to this day I don't know if it's psychological because the feeling seems to have somewhat "transferred" to other PWOs that never had that side effect. It's complex to know when the reaction is physical, psychological or both feeding off each other. Anyway almost anything is better than living with ADHD symptoms on a daily basis, not only because the anhedonic feeling of not being able to focus on anything sucks on its own, but also because it tends to get you in trouble when people who talk to you feel that you are not listening, you interrupt when it's not your turn to speak, etc. I am shocked that you could read the whole Lord of the Rings trilogy, I could probably not read a whole page without standing up or get lost reading lines without understanding what I am reading.



My 06/24 is in a red tub. I think it's the best Excelsior I have ever taken. It works for ADHD and it does not have this edgy feeling I dislike so much. It is a great tool and not an overpriced toxin like 08/23-black is.



Is it true you used to take 2 whole scoops of Excelsior? Did you weigh them? Were you really taking 12g in one sitting? Did you try this with black 8/23 tubs?


That's what I've been doing with every preworkout: prepare it in the morning and finish it at night, slowly sipping throughout the day. I have always felt quite frightened seeing people gulping their stim junkie PWO all at once. "It is intended to be used that way" doesn't matter, a predictable effect that you can modulate on the go is much safer than not being able to go back into the past to take less, a sustained release stimulant is more useful and less damaging than an instant release one (see nicotine as an example).

When taking 1/3 of scoop, does the yohimbine still ruin the experience? Can you still feel the hidden ingredient at that dose?
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1/3 minimal yohimbine feeling and still feel the benefits

so I really take it over an hour and a half time.

1/3rd every half hour to equal 1 scoop total
 
zufir said:
3 scoops from the newer batches. (06/24 red tubs and up) and 2 scoops from 06/24 black batches and below but I never weigh them. I just make sure the scoop is full
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3 scoops! I can't imagine taking so much myself! With 06/24 red tubs I usually take around 4g and that's enough for me, but I always prefer taking the minimum to keep ADHD under control, I don't like feeling my BP/HR going up, that tends to make me nervous and then the objective physical effects feed off the subjective psychological effects, resulting in HR going higher, which in turn makes me more nervous and so on and on.

The problem with scoops is that, as the powder gets clumpy, it becomes less dense (there's less mass per unit of volume) and if one scoop was 6g when you opened the tub, it may end up being around 3-4g as time goes by. But I guess if you take so much so fast you never had the problem of having one tub opened several months to begin with.
 
tstrogo93 said:
1/3 minimal yohimbine feeling and still feel the benefits

so I really take it over an hour and a half time.

1/3rd every half hour to equal 1 scoop total
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That's great to read. I would probably be more conservative in my case, like 1/3 scoop and spread throughout the whole day taking multiple BP/HR measurements to see how the body reacts and find the optimal amount. I think there's an inverted U-shaped dose response to stimulants where, past a certain point, you start getting less benefits the higher you go with the dose, the edginess offsets them. There's the art of microdosing!
 
tstrogo93 said:
Smash def has something reminiscent of OG exelsior.

The key is to split the dose up in thirds like a half hour apart.

when it all hits at once it’s too much.
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The sweat is really what hits, me The other day I got lazy even after drinking Smash and I was still sweating my ass not getting out of bed even, Lol But yeah one day I took only half scoop and it was okay. I id try pure 4fmph when it was legal a couple of years and think there might truth to that rumour?

Can anybody confirm that they have 3fma and say it is comparable to O,G Excelsior? Sometimes in my reckless moment I am thinking about wording it from abroad but my country customs is really picky about letting through pure little powders although I never had any PWO stopped include Craze all kinds of DMAA etc,.
 
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zufir said:
I read your post and realized this is some degenerate lingo but I understand everything you wrote 😂

06/24 black tub is the only old tub that had inconsistent texture and the only tub I researched deeply because it’s the version that had a long restock time before imperial came out with red tubs.

You can’t go wrong with black 06/24 though.
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I thought you guys were talking about different ethnic groups, black yellow and red but I guess it would be more appropriate to say Afro American American Indians and Asians? :) Like with alcohol some ethnic majorities and and some Japanese sometimes lack enzymes to break down alcohol and they have worse control with alcohol than others. Is it this way with Excelsior? :unsure:🤠👺:ROFLMAO:
 
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zufir said:
I read your post and realized this is some degenerate lingo but I understand everything you wrote 😂

06/24 black tub is the only old tub that had inconsistent texture and the only tub I researched deeply because it’s the version that had a long restock time before imperial came out with red tubs.

You can’t go wrong with black 06/24 though.
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How much Excelsior did you drink today to get the energy for these comments?
I did 0,75 scoops 11/25 this morning then a half dose pylorus lifestyle levels and another half scoop Excelsior and I don't feel mania but pretty eyes wide shut 11 hours later but so funna like did on O.G tubs then some more crazy things would appear in my typing lol
 
tstrogo93 said:
1/3 minimal yohimbine feeling and still feel the benefits

so I really take it over an hour and a half time.

1/3rd every half hour to equal 1 scoop total
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Hi,
@junetwentyfour
I am sorry about your struggle with ADHD mine is mixed up with autism as well which is quite common and autism is a more subjective diagnosis to define and in some area I am really fast like even as a nine year old I could spend 6 hours reading a book straight and I think I finished the trilogy in week but now 40 years later it wold take me more and it did when I read it around to my 11 year son and that was possibly evermore enjoyable.

I have tried many adhd medicines and old Excelsior were theist for forward energy, the new ones are there but it feels like I would need to supplement with a little something to get extra kick. Warning so many attempts of mixing even just 2 different sweet pwos make me feel sick from toxic sweet tase.

I can focus at things of my interest for hours and with speed but then remembering what I have in pockets or losing my reading glasses 3 times again
And other people, well I am learning to stay silent and not start talking Excelsior to the first fellow I se walking around with a monster can and show him my Excelsior tub and ask him how he would feel about going up above and beyond?

11/25 is pretty strong sometimes it feels chilled out when I check on my synapses in the back of head I still it is still working 11 hours later
cfisher52986 said:
So I got the new tub from predator. It’s 10/25 and looks all white to me Invalid Link RemovedInvalid Link Removed
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Looks just like mine 11/25. Might really be the same batch just packed in another tub but you never know how it kicks until you lick it :) Let us Excelsior heads
 
Look at this happy family😊
 

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cfisher52986 said:
So I got the new tub from predator. It’s 10/25 and looks all white to me Invalid Link RemovedInvalid Link Removed
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How is it? It really looks like the 11/25.

I guess I am partly permafried. I feel the 11/25 but after nine days of about 0.8 scoops plus half afternoon scoop I don't feel it so strongly and I thought I was gonna go to bed early but opening up this thread to do the research of my area of expertise Excelsior I did find I had some extra gas and eyes are open 13 hours later.... Lol

They should make a sleep supplement to go with it. Imperial sleeper the reaper of stims.

This is some weird stuff. I thought it was best tub since the older strong but I dunno my brain is melting fruit punch pot with a few healthy braincells and receptors swimming in there while others are long. gone fried up and other confusing my brain in the process of melting, fingers crossed, I hope I will wake up an even stronger mutant tomorrow!💪
 
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