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My 11/25s Lot is: INO 93321 what is yours @Justjoe7989 and yours @zufir ? If it matters but we have durk the obsessing elixir called Excelsior and people getting fascinated try and drink all sorts of batches shaken and stirred and with or without olives.

What is the truly magic way to drink Excelsior to give a right bite not just in flavor but effect wise?
I have been feeling more and more spaced out after having used 11/25 for 2 weeks but 6 days a week about 0.8 scoop morning plus half in afternoon.

Maybe actually no Excelsior or maybe after a break
I have lot # INO93221 exp 11/25 as well. All white powder all black tub. Don’t feel the neurotoxicity and bad sides as you do. Just clean energy. However, I must say that if take more then 3 days in a row it drastically lowers effects. But one day off and it hits hard again. It’s also the one that feels identical to doomsday but maybe less strong. Only difference is the burning feeling with excelsior if dry scooped. Hope this helps but yeah if you have taken it tons of days in a row that’s probably a factor considering I have to take a day off after three days.

Doomsday does the same thing. And if I take one or the other for 3-4 consecutive days even mixing and matching the same thing happens. Which makes me feel like they are the same again.

But I’d recommend the 3 on and 1-2 days off rotation. I’ve never gotten the bad sides you have and I think that’s why. However, I do get a slight chest tightness when going up over 1 scoop. Not crazy anxious kind but noticeable. At the same time my heart rate doesn’t elevate at all that I can tell on either product. I can actually workout with them for that reason. Another note, I didn’t get as an intense of a euphoria as you describe. But I do get 3-4 hours of intense get stuff done focus with good energy and a bit of euphoria. Hope this helps!
 
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Also, anyone in here who didn’t like their doomsday want to sell me their tub?
 
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How much?
PM me let’s figure something out. I will be upfront they I’m worried about buying tubs that people hated in case some tubs are indeed just bunk. But I’m open to keep how much you shelled out and the fact that I love my rubs so much to find something reasonable for the both of us
 
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After using 11/25 almost daily for 2 weeks pretty low doses I tried my strong 8/23 tub today and even half scoop of that is superior to any amount of newer tubs. Its clear to me that the older has something that is not in the new tubs.
The new tubs have something but the jaw and superior level focus is just beyond any other support, only possibly older Craze might have come close (but honestly don't remember lol)

Again like the first time I had a tub of the new stuff I get disappointed that the old super formula was discontinued. Again I have slight jaw lock and almost the motivation to hint down some skilled chemist analyze and old tub and have some new lol.

For or for good after trying the old tub again my love for the new is quite less. It is actually pretty good with fresh receptors so I guess I have to learn to use it just every now and then but the old tub though even after using different stims daily still barely a half scoop gives superhuman focus etc on another level. I could type some novels now but I am off to have just a tiny dinner because of appetite suppression.
 

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After using 11/25 almost daily for 2 weeks pretty low doses I tried my strong 8/23 tub today and even half scoop of that is superior to any amount of newer tubs. Its clear to me that the older has something that is not in the new tubs.
The new tubs have something but the jaw and superior level focus is just beyond any other support, only possibly older Craze might have come close (but honestly don't remember lol)

Again like the first time I had a tub of the new stuff I get disappointed that the old super formula was discontinued. Again I have slight jaw lock and almost the motivation to hint down some skilled chemist analyze and old tub and have some new lol.

For or for good after trying the old tub again my love for the new is quite less. It is actually pretty good with fresh receptors so I guess I have to learn to use it just every now and then but the old tub though even after using different stims daily still barely a half scoop gives superhuman focus etc on another level. I could type some novels now but I am off to have just a tiny dinner because of appetite suppression.
Have you tried smash yet?
 
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Have you tried smash yet?
I tried Smash and I do believe there is truth to the youtube comment saying they tested it and found 4f-mph a flourinated methylphenidate and without the flour binding methylphenidate is the active substance in adhd meds such as concerta or ritalin there being different brands and quick and extended releases.
I did try pure 4f-mph a couple of years ago and I found it to be a little bit better than those mentioned pharma meds but still I do find that kind of drug to be unconfortable on the heart and the pharma ones were terrible for mood.

4f mph is okay but still after a couple of days my body and mind says no thank you.’Smash also gave me strong yohimbe sides of sweat and chills.
Due to believing in the 4f rumour maybe there is truth to 3FMA n old Excelsior? Same youtuber also said newer Excelsior showed positive for phenmetrazine.

I have never tried phenmetrazine but googling says it is like amphetamine but with less sides. I dunno all these substances have many varieties and bindings and the general. consensus seem to be that generally a flourination make another molecule more active and longlasting and indeed is 4f-mph more long lasting and active at lower doses than regular methylphenidate in adhd meds.

And 3fma is flourinated methamphetamine but besides Craze ans Excelsior I have not tried any actual m e t h or newer research variety but the long lasting focus is surely on another level and I guess this is why I was so disappointed when the new tubs didnt have what realy felt like magic focus for me and even on low dose for me so long lasting and never mind the jaw lock and appetite supression lol

prescribed dezamphetamine that I also dont tolertae well due to sides actually lower my blood sugar and make me really hungry, it also gives me real bad crash like my brain is being emptied and there is no glucose left, glucose being the stored form of carbohydrates and to replenish that good natural carbs are best and honey is great because it is quickly absorbed but not refined white sugar.

Excuse my lecture again but O.G could really keep me reading and writing for hours lol.

OG though is so long lasting that I and some others dont get a crash the same day but when it is out ot the system 24 or 48 hours later that is when what is in Excelsior ls leaving the body, then it is very hard to get energized and unfortunately after this nothing else hasnt even come close
 
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I have lot # INO93221 exp 11/25 as well. All white powder all black tub. Don’t feel the neurotoxicity and bad sides as you do. Just clean energy. However, I must say that if take more then 3 days in a row it drastically lowers effects. But one day off and it hits hard again. It’s also the one that feels identical to doomsday but maybe less strong. Only difference is the burning feeling with excelsior if dry scooped. Hope this helps but yeah if you have taken it tons of days in a row that’s probably a factor considering I have to take a day off after three days.

Doomsday does the same thing. And if I take one or the other for 3-4 consecutive days even mixing and matching the same thing happens. Which makes me feel like they are the same again.

But I’d recommend the 3 on and 1-2 days off rotation. I’ve never gotten the bad sides you have and I think that’s why. However, I do get a slight chest tightness when going up over 1 scoop. Not crazy anxious kind but noticeable. At the same time my heart rate doesn’t elevate at all that I can tell on either product. I can actually workout with them for that reason. Another note, I didn’t get as an intense of a euphoria as you describe. But I do get 3-4 hours of intense get stuff done focus with good energy and a bit of euphoria. Hope this helps!
Hi, well I don't think I actually get intense euphoria but what I mean is that there is a kind of psychoactive feeling and I get this artificial chemical feeling in my brain lol
I dunno but taking 11/25 on average 0,75 scoops + 0,5 scoops a couple of hours later. The first euphoria like feeling diminishes after a few days, it still feels psychoactive and focus enhancing after this.
But the O.G and now I am checking the clock and it is 12 hours since dosing and I still have some energy left but really should have gon to bed already...

Today went on a hike and then climbed a steep ski hill and on top of it the view of the town and the lake below is awesome.
A bit out of shape cardiovascularly my breathing was heaving when I got up but I still had a sense of contentment that even though out of breath having climbed a very steep hill I just sat there breathing and it was like nothing could touch me in this world. My eyes stretched out and absorbed the landscape....

But the b...tch is that my O.G supply is very limited ..... but every time lately and not using it regularly and in low doses for me is the ultimate focus and reading and writing stim, well very awesome for working out but I always worked out to hard on O.G lol

Time for sleep now, luckily enough I am quite fast typer as well

But after using the O.G I am guessing then is when I experience dopamine working well for me and I start thinking about the future, so many tasks I want to do and unfortunately I know I never so much inspiration without unfortunately but in the note book, Keep it ready and plan things there;

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PM me let’s figure something out. I will be upfront they I’m worried about buying tubs that people hated in case some tubs are indeed just bunk. But I’m open to keep how much you shelled out and the fact that I love my rubs so much to find something reasonable for the both of us
Fwiw I’ve stocked up 6 tubs. Every batch number, look, and effects were identical. The tubs are consistent but some people don’t feel it. I think everyone whose liked doomsday has said every tub hits the same for them as well.
 

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Alright fellow excelsiorians...... I've changed my mind about the white 11/25 all black tub from predator I've taken it three times before and wasn't crazy about it but took 1.5 scoops this morning after about a week break from it and holy cow.....I also shook the tub up super good wasn't expecting what happened....awesomeness just awesomeness...
 
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Alright fellow excelsiorians...... I've changed my mind about the white 11/25 all black tub from predator I've taken it three times before and wasn't crazy about it but took 1.5 scoops this morning after about a week break from it and holy cow.....I also shook the tub up super good wasn't expecting what happened....awesomeness just awesomeness...
Oh man! I have forgotten to shake it! That was the first thing Driven Sports said when people started complaining about bunk tubs ! :ROFLMAO:
 
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Weren’t the later tubs of craze watered down and far less potent - I bought about 20 tubs in a muscle shop one time to sell on . Tasted the same looked the same, smelt the same .Kept one tub and I could use it without staying up all nite so obviously not the same . Had a lovely dreamy feel to it though .
 
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Random question, but does anyone else notice that several hours after they take a serving of Excelsior (1 - 1.5 scoops), it's difficult to eat?

For me, it almost feels like I'm trying to force myself to eat after I just ate a huge meal (almost feels like my stomach is too "tight" to hold anymore food).

Also, when I try to brush my teeth several hours after exercising (even if I didn't actually eat anything afterwards), it almost makes me gag when I use the toothbrush to try and brush the back of my tongue (I literally come very close to throwing up).
 
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Random question, but does anyone else notice that several hours after they take a serving of Excelsior (1 - 1.5 scoops), it's difficult to eat?

For me, it almost feels like I'm trying to force myself to eat after I just ate a huge meal (almost feels like my stomach is too "tight" to hold anymore food).

Also, when I try to brush my teeth several hours after exercising (even if I didn't actually eat anything afterwards), it almost makes me gag when I use the toothbrush to try and brush the back of my tongue (I literally come very close to throwing up).
I don't remember what batch the one I had and threw away was, but nothing has killed my appetite like it did. That could become handy in certain situations, but unfortunately in addition to just appetite suppression it made me feel sick. Even drinking my after WO whey shake was a task and I felt like throwing it up.
 
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Oh yeah the appetite suppression is definitely real. Big plus for us on a long term cut :)
I don't remember what batch the one I had and threw away was, but nothing has killed my appetite like it did. That could become handy in certain situations, but unfortunately in addition to just appetite suppression it made me feel sick. Even drinking my after WO whey shake was a task and I felt like throwing it up.
While I've noticed appetite suppression from Excelsior ever since I started taking the product back in 2020, I don't think it's ever been as strong as it is with the current tub (although it definitely doesn't provide the same degree of overall stimulation or euphoria as the mid-2020 batches I started out with). I usually take it 30-60 mins before cardio on a completely empty stomach, and yet it somehow makes me feel like I have actual, physical food in my stomach.

I'm literally waiting to brush my teeth because I don't want to accidentally gag myself with the toothbrush when I try to brush the back of my tongue. Appetite suppression is one thing, but somehow it literally makes it feel like I have a feast's worth of food in my stomach when it's literally completely empty.
 
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While I've noticed appetite suppression from Excelsior ever since I started taking the product back in 2020, I don't think it's ever been as strong as it is with the current tub (although it definitely doesn't provide the same degree of overall stimulation or euphoria as the mid-2020 batches I started out with). I usually take it 30-60 mins before cardio on a completely empty stomach, and yet it somehow makes me feel like I have actual, physical food in my stomach.

I'm literally waiting to brush my teeth because I don't want to accidentally gag myself with the toothbrush when I try to brush the back of my tongue. Appetite suppression is one thing, but somehow it literally makes it feel like I have a feast's worth of food in my stomach when it's literally completely empty.
Have you tried taking it on not completely empty stomach? I know that stims work the best, when taken on an empty stomach, but if having a little something in before taking it and that helps, then that could be worth it, even if it weakens the stim effect a little.

Eating something before could make the upset of stomach worse though, of course, but many times when something upsets peoples stomach, taking it with food tends to help or even completely clear the issue. Some basic vitamins can sometimes upset my stomach, if taken on an empty stomach, but don't have any of that effect, when taken with or after food. I remember when I was taking Beta Alanine daily, to have the most effect, like it does have when taken daily, kind of like creatine, I hated the 'tingling on the skin' effect and started having a smallish serving of yougurt before taking the BA and that helped quite a bit with the annoying tingling.

Maybe something to try, if you haven't already. But also maybe be ready to throw up, if it has the opposite effect, lol.
 
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Random question, but does anyone else notice that several hours after they take a serving of Excelsior (1 - 1.5 scoops), it's difficult to eat?

For me, it almost feels like I'm trying to force myself to eat after I just ate a huge meal (almost feels like my stomach is too "tight" to hold anymore food).

Also, when I try to brush my teeth several hours after exercising (even if I didn't actually eat anything afterwards), it almost makes me gag when I use the toothbrush to try and brush the back of my tongue (I literally come very close to throwing up).
can't eat and have acid reflux
 
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Random question, but does anyone else notice that several hours after they take a serving of Excelsior (1 - 1.5 scoops), it's difficult to eat?

For me, it almost feels like I'm trying to force myself to eat after I just ate a huge meal (almost feels like my stomach is too "tight" to hold anymore food).

Also, when I try to brush my teeth several hours after exercising (even if I didn't actually eat anything afterwards), it almost makes me gag when I use the toothbrush to try and brush the back of my tongue (I literally come very close to throwing up).
yeah sometimes I don’t get it but sometimes I do. That’s a common side effect of strong stims. This new one is weird in they 70% of its a mild energy and good focus. 10% of the time I don’t feel much, and the last 20% it makes me feel too amped and anxiety for like 6 hours. But that happened Saturday and I couldn’t eat until I had a couple of cocktails to kill the anxiety. Sucked. Lasted over 6 hours of feeling lousy. I was saying doomsday and this were the same. But as I take it longer, doomsday is either Greta or underwhelming, but never makes me feel like ass. It’s also stronger and cleaner. I don’t even know what to think anymore. How can they all behave so differently all the time
 
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yeah sometimes I don’t get it but sometimes I do. That’s a common side effect of strong stims. This new one is weird in they 70% of its a mild energy and good focus. 10% of the time I don’t feel much, and the last 20% it makes me feel too amped and anxiety for like 6 hours. But that happened Saturday and I couldn’t eat until I had a couple of cocktails to kill the anxiety. Sucked. Lasted over 6 hours of feeling lousy. I was saying doomsday and this were the same. But as I take it longer, doomsday is either Greta or underwhelming, but never makes me feel like ass. It’s also stronger and cleaner. I don’t even know what to think anymore. How can they all behave so differently all the time
Think there must be some interaction with your body’s neurotransmitter or hormone levels. Fwiw I’ve noticed with doomsday that if I’ve slept a little less (not too badly though) I don’t feel it much. Ditto when I’ve used excelsior, hydrazine. But then when I’m rested a smaller dose hits way more than a larger dose. Maybe they depend on dopamine, serotonin or some thing like that so if everything is lined up you get an amazing workout but if not then it’s less pronounced.

Maybe it correlates to something else like HRV or RHR. I might track that for a few workouts using the same dose and see how it goes. I’ve got some injuries so can’t train properly anyway so a good way for me to not do what I’d normally do which is take more and more to get an effect when a smaller dose doesn’t work.
 
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Think there must be some interaction with your body’s neurotransmitter or hormone levels. Fwiw I’ve noticed with doomsday that if I’ve slept a little less (not too badly though) I don’t feel it much. Ditto when I’ve used excelsior, hydrazine. But then when I’m rested a smaller dose hits way more than a larger dose. Maybe they depend on dopamine, serotonin or some thing like that so if everything is lined up you get an amazing workout but if not then it’s less pronounced.

Maybe it correlates to something else like HRV or RHR. I might track that for a few workouts using the same dose and see how it goes. I’ve got some injuries so can’t train properly anyway so a good way for me to not do what I’d normally do which is take more and more to get an effect when a smaller dose doesn’t work.
Interesting. Hydrazine has always affected me in a way that it puts my energy levels to my 'good normal' level, meaning that if I take it when I already have good energy, then it doesn't really increase my energy, just keeps it there a bit longer, when I would otherwise start to get tired due to athletic activity etc. But if I take it when I'm tired from lack of sleep or something else, then it raises my energy to my 'good nomal' level, but not beyond.

Maybe they depend on dopamine, serotonin or some thing like that so if everything is lined up you get an amazing workout but if not then it’s less pronounced.
That could make sense, if it works as an dopamine reuptake inhibitor, but not so much via increasing the release of dopamine.
 
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Interesting. Hydrazine has always effected me in a way that it puts my energy levels to my 'good normal' level, meaning that if I take it when I already have good energy, then it doesn't really increase my energy, just keeps it there a bit longer, when I would otherwise start to get tired due to athletic activity etc. But if I take it when I'm tired from lack of sleep or something else, then it raises my energy to my 'good nomal' level, but not beyond.


That could make sense, if it works as an dopamine reuptake inhibitor, but not so much via increasing the release of dopamine.
Never noticed the same with other preworkouts btw. They’d be more consistent (be that good or bad). I wonder about dopamine etc cos I’ll say I’ve noticed similar variable effects with compounds that either directly increase dopamine or inhibit reuptake so the very same compound from the same “batch” affects me differently.
 
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So I went back to try my 06/24 tub just to see how it compares to the more recent ones and I definitely prefer it over the more recent ones. The crackhead energy it provides and the euphoria is much more prominent. I'm sorry I baited you on getting that 11/25 batch @muscleman 😂 but I feel like even 3 scoops on it is still underwhelming (for me)

For anyone looking for clean euphoric energy, 11/25 won't disappoint. The side effects are much less present as well.
 
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So I went back to try my 06/24 tub just to see how it compares to the more recent ones and I definitely prefer it over the more recent ones. The crackhead energy it provides and the euphoria is much more prominent. I'm sorry I baited you on getting that 11/25 batch @muscleman 😂 but I feel like even 3 scoops on it is still underwhelming (for me)

For anyone looking for clean euphoric energy, 11/25 won't disappoint. The side effects are much less present as well.
Does that old batch have the same appetite suppression and would you crash badly after? OG Jack3d type preworkouts put me off hard stims for life. That **** seriously made you feel depressed when the crash hit.
 

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So I went back to try my 06/24 tub just to see how it compares to the more recent ones and I definitely prefer it over the more recent ones. The crackhead energy it provides and the euphoria is much more prominent. I'm sorry I baited you on getting that 11/25 batch @muscleman 😂 but I feel like even 3 scoops on it is still underwhelming (for me)

For anyone looking for clean euphoric energy, 11/25 won't disappoint. The side effects are much less present as well.
I went back to my red 6/24 takes a GOOD hour at least to work but it is almost too long lasting once it starts lol.
Much more social at gym on it as well.
Almost like disinhibited a bit.

like I feel like I’m mouth more animated in conversation and likable to say some wild sht lol.
 
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Think there must be some interaction with your body’s neurotransmitter or hormone levels. Fwiw I’ve noticed with doomsday that if I’ve slept a little less (not too badly though) I don’t feel it much. Ditto when I’ve used excelsior, hydrazine. But then when I’m rested a smaller dose hits way more than a larger dose. Maybe they depend on dopamine, serotonin or some thing like that so if everything is lined up you get an amazing workout but if not then it’s less pronounced.

Maybe it correlates to something else like HRV or RHR. I might track that for a few workouts using the same dose and see how it goes. I’ve got some injuries so can’t train properly anyway so a good way for me to not do what I’d normally do which is take more and more to get an effect when a smaller dose doesn’t work.
This seems to be the case with newer tubs. In the old tips though even barely sleeping the previous night they will still work.
11/25 is okay on clean receptors but I dunno for my persona
So I went back to try my 06/24 tub just to see how it compares to the more recent ones and I definitely prefer it over the more recent ones. The crackhead energy it provides and the euphoria is much more prominent. I'm sorry I baited you on getting that 11/25 batch @muscleman 😂 but I feel like even 3 scoops on it is still underwhelming (for me)

For anyone looking for clean euphoric energy, 11/25 won't disappoint. The side effects are much less present as well.
No worries, I am never expecting to see O.G again that extra that was in old tubs. 11/25 is still pretty strong in its own way and long lasting but I tend to get a little spacey after a few hours instead of staying sharp and near mania active discoing through the day level euphoria and focus lol.

11/25 was okay at first, gets old using consecutive days but now after a break it is decent. I think this is pretty strong for people with fresh receptors to these kind of feelings or slightly diffrfenet substances than other pres I suspect.

One thing I miss about the O.G Excelsior is that how I would feel so fearless and self reassured after drinking it. O would not even worry about a 20km bike course then 10km forest hike and then lake and sometimes barely feeling the legs when climbing a steep hill in terrain but on sober legs it is a real stumbler..

11/25 , not really much but there is quite a bit of energy than could be used, its a bit spaced for me to even feel fluid in writing.
Like O.G it really shone like in that writing was fluid and multiple associations in the subjects treated taking place a bit too fast to be useful and understandable by many people including myself lol :ROFLMAO:
 
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So I went back to try my 06/24 tub just to see how it compares to the more recent ones and I definitely prefer it over the more recent ones. The crackhead energy it provides and the euphoria is much more prominent. I'm sorry I baited you on getting that 11/25 batch @muscleman 😂 but I feel like even 3 scoops on it is still underwhelming (for me)

For anyone looking for clean euphoric energy, 11/25 won't disappoint. The side effects are much less present as well.
I didn't expect O.G but expected a bit more you saying it! aaaah I am not than angry 😇 myself also 5/24 and 11/25 the first times on fresh receptors they feel pretty close to O.G and 11/25 is a bit similar but on a little different frequency that is sometimes a bit hard for me to keep in touch with.
The dreams goes to once find the magic that makes my brain click but I think some effort on my own as consciously training focus could be possible to some degree and then I just need a little kick in the butt so I cab ru around with the speed of The Flash and do good stuff! (y)💪🐳
 
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This seems to be the case with newer tubs. In the old tips though even barely sleeping the previous night they will still work.
11/25 is okay on clean receptors but I dunno for my persona

No worries, I am never expecting to see O.G again that extra that was in old tubs. 11/25 is still pretty strong in its own way and long lasting but I tend to get a little spacey after a few hours instead of staying sharp and near mania active discoing through the day level euphoria and focus lol.

11/25 was okay at first, gets old using consecutive days but now after a break it is decent. I think this is pretty strong for people with fresh receptors to these kind of feelings or slightly diffrfenet substances than other pres I suspect.

One thing I miss about the O.G Excelsior is that how I would feel so fearless and self reassured after drinking it. O would not even worry about a 20km bike course then 10km forest hike and then lake and sometimes barely feeling the legs when climbing a steep hill in terrain but on sober legs it is a real stumbler..

11/25 , not really much but there is quite a bit of energy than could be used, its a bit spaced for me to even feel fluid in writing.
Like O.G it really shone like in that writing was fluid and multiple associations in the subjects treated taking place a bit too fast to be useful and understandable by many people including myself lol :ROFLMAO:
Reading that made me think you must live in a scenic area - lakes, hills, forests. Lol the only lakes and hills here are puddles and waste tips
 
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Thanks for all the love fellas and thank you for being my witnesses in Excelsior addicts anonymous as I am yours if you are as well or even if you are recovered or in denial of Excelsior addiction or just mere obsession? (y)😇

Brendan Frazer was crazy ripped in Jungle George!
Seeing the jungle pic also gives me flashback to all those nature documentaries I watch and it is clear that the contestants in mr Olympia are doing exactly the same thing as ape males sometimes just outflexing their opponent lol.

And gorillas, all that muscle from a vegetarian diet besides occasional insects and opponent ape I saw in the case with chimpanzees who after having killed another from another tribe they passed around the head, the skull still fresh with meat that they ate of passing it around as well in a ceremonial way I would say.
But a hassle to graze all day....
I gave up all whey and dairy about 6 months ago, although years ago I drank quite a bit of whey but now vegetarian about 5 days a week, an occasional piece of chicken slips down with family and fish fingers is my favorite junk fast food.

I haven´t noticed any loss in muscle at all and gut feel better although maybe because of this I am more sensitive and I feel all PWOs are more or less toxic to gut. Today once again I had a bit over half scoop Excelsior and then just half scoop of Smash and then about 2 hour later when I had another half scoop of Excelsior it was a quick gut wrench, an immediate sickness feeling from the sweetness and the Smash berry fusion I have really give deep almost black blue purplish hue to the liquids escaping me the same way they got in lol

Vomitting from mixing PWOs also has an amazing appetite suppression as well and who else remembers when you have been sick in the gut puking for two days and when you look in the mirror you look ripped from the depletion and the abs have gotten good workouts from hulking 💪

With age I don't need nearly as much food as 10 years ago and I still maintain a steady weight.
Been having my most intense training years in my last 10 years but that doesn't say much. Really trying to focus on my muscles now using as little weight as possible to get the stimuli happening. But I am quite a bit weaker than 10 years ago but I do accept and raw strength as awesome as it is isn't always the most useful.

11/25 yeah pretty decent after a break but doesn´t really work continuously like O.G and simply lacks something. O.G that made me think pink I think Lol
 
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Reading that made me think you must live in a scenic area - lakes, hills, forests. Lol the only lakes and hills here are puddles and waste tips
You are right in a way but what is really scenic is in the end often in the eyes of the beholder.
I do live in the middle of nowhere pretty much when it comes to cities well there is a tiny city but I used to live in Tokyo in Japan.
I do also live very nearby one of the largest lakes in the area but I grew up on a small Island close to the coast and most of all I love a place by the sea in a tropical warm place.
But this is Sweden and even summer is freezing sometimes, my long johns get no rest! Lol
This area is mostly forest and mostly spruce pine but I prefer coconuts.
Some people do love Northern pine forest but I long for coconut trees and warmer places and I was lucky to spend some winters in the tropics and I managed to stay outside of my native country for 15 years and I was really never planning on coming back but with a large earthquake in Tokyo Japan in 2011 and meltdown in Fukushima power plant only 200kms away from Tokyo we didn't feel safe there with a newborn in the family and a very long journey with many pitstops led us to this place in the middle of nowhere. I like the quiet and nature , the worst thing here for me is the cold and the winter darkness but touch wood I just ordered a light therapy lamp today so gonna see if that can help me not falling into a coma in winter. Hopefully that or they will rerelease Craze and O.G Excelsior at affordable prices lol

Another thing with Sweden is that we have only 1% original untouched forest left and one of the most aggressive forestry industry in the world cutting down younger and younger trees and sometime when walking in it you realize how all the trees are exactly the same height and same kind in one little area.
but anyhow living close to any nature is still better than next to a trafficked road I think.

Puddles and waste tips? Maybe some bargains to be found in the waste tips? There might be some fun things happening in the area though?

But yeah 11/25 I feel pretty chilled, didn't type out in same speed as on O.G lol

11/25 nice but forgettable as well as I now don't feel it although the residue still moving my fingertips lol

If you really have extra cash to splurge otherwise I hope people find something better to drink than new expensive Excelsiors.
I have been thinking to make a nice order with some Yerba mate varieties, get some guayusa as well and I mix it with other herbs like catuaba for example and the tribes in Amazon's where they drink catuaba and the father of a newborn child is over 70 years old they say the it is a child of catuaba Lol

Good night and meh yeah I almost caught myself shorter than on O.G

Shout out love to everyone and loved ones and all the rest too! 💪😍
 
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Reading that made me think you must live in a scenic area - lakes, hills, forests. Lol the only lakes and hills here are puddles and waste tips
And when he's on that OG, maybe this?

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Thanks for the nature love and thank you guys all of you reading for being my Excelsior anonymous witness.
Lately I have been getting tummy finny sick a bit even from quite low doses and especially mixing 2 different sweet toxin bombs lol.
11/25 is okay pretty strong after a break but I dont miss it like I did that O.G that me an illusiobary genius in my own mind while under the influence lol.

Seeing the djungle pic , Brendan Frazer was crazy ripped as jungle George!, also goves me flashback to all those nature documentaries I watch and it is clear that the contestants in mr Olympia are doing exactly the same thing as ape males , amongst apes it is often enough to just try and look big to scare the opponent away lol 😂
And gorillas so much muscle and besides some insects and occasional opponent ape flesh they are almost entirely vegetarian. But yes it must be a hassle chewing leafes all day.
I used to drink whey and eat a lot but this last year I gave up all whey protein and I am vegetarian 6 days a week, an occasional piece of chicken has gone down.
But I have upped natural carbs like fruits potatoes oats and rice is okay.
My shake these days is a banana a bunch of dates dried oats and right now O happen to have some hempseeds at home. Keeps you full beautifully.

I havent noticed any muscle loss and my gut feels good although I know Excelsior and all powder more or less ruin stomach.
And one great thing about getting older is I maintain my weight eating so much less than 10 years ago
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Truth is that I and Arnold have never been so much alike as in this picture. I just dont make Terminator but I speak the truth when I Write that s appeared in a single scene in a Japanese Bug Screen sciencifiction film taking place during ww2 and I raise my front palm outward and say in a vera selfconsciouss way:
Mein Mane is Adolf Hitler, I forgot to tell my students about so they thought I was nazi but of course In my heart I believe in one United divine tribe hood 🤩
 
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Gotta try the 10/25 I love it!!!used it three times on a row it's special!! Can sleep after six hours though
 
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Gotta try the 10/25 I love it!!!used it three times on a row it's special!! Can sleep after six hours though
Have you tried 11/25? Sleep after 6 hours dor me says no O.G although some sleep easier than others
 
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For whatever reason 11/25 started making me feel like ass when I take it now
 
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For whatever reason 11/25 started making me feel like ass when I take it now
For me, the extreme humidity that's been suffocating my region of the southeast makes it hard to really "feel" anything from taking Excelsior, or really any preworkout. It's like the lousy climate just makes me feel so bad that it basically overshadows everything else (literally almost feels like I didn't take anything when the humidity is that high and I run outside).
 

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For me, the extreme humidity that's been suffocating my region of the southeast makes it hard to really "feel" anything from taking Excelsior, or really any preworkout. It's like the lousy climate just makes me feel so bad that it basically overshadows everything else (literally almost feels like I didn't take anything when the humidity is that high and I run outside).
I I get it I live in Florida
 
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I I get it I live in Florida
I live in GA. What makes it even worse is that my city is located in a valley, and it's also smack in the middle of the jet stream's regular path, so it's a constant onslaught of insufferable humidity. Literally can't exercise outside, even if the temp isn't very high. I want to move out west, LOL
 

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I live in GA. What makes it even worse is that my city is located in a valley, and it's also smack in the middle of the jet stream's regular path, so it's a constant onslaught of insufferable humidity. Literally can't exercise outside, even if the temp isn't very high. I want to move out west, LOL
Good luck with that!!
 
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I know Florida and the tropics are humid but lately my place in Norghern Europe has even turned tropical humid due to all extreme rain and floods , we ve never had weather mine this. Still slughtly cold but wet just move.a bit and. break a cold sweat
 
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About 11/25 I feel we all here suggest things to each other line when @zifir said he got acidreflux I also noticed that more.
I was saying 11/25 was nice but continuous mot so good now others say same lol. But after a break again 11/25 is pretty nice
 
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It really seems that effects with. Ew Excelsior really varies on whom who take it in what condition more than other pwos
 

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About 11/25 I feel we all here suggest things to each other line when @zifir said he got acidreflux I also noticed that more.
I was saying 11/25 was nice but continuous mot so good now others say same lol. But after a break again 11/25 is pretty nice
Yes muscle man..... It Is!!!!
 

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