EvoMuse Experimental: Absolutely Abliderated

bananaClip said:
i thought this was never meant to make it to retail, and 20% cheaper?!?!
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I think feedback was so good Matt went ahead and pushed some to NP. I didn't even know it was heading there until I saw it today.
 
I was able to negotiate some bulk pricing on some of the ingredients...and this is an intro special.

Anyone that ordered through the website, we will be offering some discounts coming up in the near future as a thank you.
 
I've ordered multiple bottles direct of AA and BFF. 4 evomuse shirts seems payment enough to get first shot at cutting edge products that work. I would pay retail for all of Matts formulas. Even when i have tried, he gives me a discount, thats the stand up guy he is. When Heat beta, Cardiotryx beta, etc go up, i'llbe waiting.
 
daman43 said:
I've ordered multiple bottles direct of AA and BFF. 4 evomuse shirts seems payment enough to get first shot at cutting edge products that work. I would pay retail for all of Matts formulas. Even when i have tried, he gives me a discount, thats the stand up guy he is. When Heat beta, Cardiotryx beta, etc go up, i'llbe waiting.
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I think there is lots of us who eagerly await Matt's new products when he releases them. I'm like a kid on Christmas.
 
daman43 said:
I've ordered multiple bottles direct of AA and BFF. 4 evomuse shirts seems payment enough to get first shot at cutting edge products that work. I would pay retail for all of Matts formulas. Even when i have tried, he gives me a discount, thats the stand up guy he is. When Heat beta, Cardiotryx beta, etc go up, i'llbe waiting.
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Second to this. I had no interest in being a rep until a spot opened up with Matt. He has a very unique mind for releasing products that are unlike anything else on the market!
 
domore said:
You never know ;)



There are no stimulants in Abliderate Advanced or Absolutely Abliderated.
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Thank you. IS one better to stack with
[h=1]Vanillean?[/h]
I have a bottle laying around and wonder if either AA is better stack with Vanillean?

thank u
 
burpees said:
Thank you. IS one better to stack with
[h=1]Vanillean?[/h]
I have a bottle laying around and wonder if either AA is better stack with Vanillean?

thank u
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If you are avoiding stimulants, stack it with AA. The Eviscerate series does contain stimulants.
 
Can this product be run for more than 4-6 weeks? Any benefits for using this at an extended period of time? Or 4-6 weeks and then some time off.
 
Localized cortisol suppression can be run indefinitely, whereas systemic suppression (like what we will get with Abliderate AMMO) should be cycled.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Regardless of the delivery vehicle, there will always be some degree of systemic distribution
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True, some inadvertent systemic pickup will occur as it's transported through the dermal vasculature, but not enough to cause the negative side effects of systemic suppression that isn't cycled.
 
dsade said:
True, some inadvertent systemic pickup will occur as it's transported through the dermal vasculature, but not enough to cause the negative side effects of systemic suppression that isn't cycled.
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Do you have evidence of systemic suppression? I don't see much besides reduction of steroid sex hormones
 
I'm looking into Abliderate Advanced and Absolutely Abliderated. I'm looking for answers on which to get. I'm sitting around 20ish % bf and I have some Eviscerate from a while back which I will probably use down the road when I'm a bit leaner. Until then I would like to attack this fatty midsection with one of the AA products I'm just torn on which one.
 
houstontexas said:
I'm looking into Abliderate Advanced and Absolutely Abliderated. I'm looking for answers on which to get. I'm sitting around 20ish % bf and I have some Eviscerate from a while back which I will probably use down the road when I'm a bit leaner. Until then I would like to attack this fatty midsection with one of the AA products I'm just torn on which one.
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Absolutely abliderated is stronger and only few $ more on nutra, seems like an easy decision.

I believe Evomuse is coming out with a product for higher bf% that you may be interested in if you can wait.
 
jamesm11 said:
Absolutely abliderated is stronger and only few $ more on nutra, seems like an easy decision.

I believe Evomuse is coming out with a product for higher bf% that you may be interested in if you can wait.
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I'm too impatient to wait lol. I'm an American damnit and I want it now!!
 
These abliderate products are great for lean bulks I've gained 10 pounds naturally with only a .5 inch increase in waist size and it doesn't really look like I've gained much fat which is awesome. The skin in my abdominal area always feels tighter when using these products
 
Jbrooks said:
can AA be used with Dry Rub and if so in which order would it be best to apply
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You can use both AA and Dry Rub. It would be best to apply AA, and wait 15 minutes before applying Dry Rub to your desired areas.
 
gabys225 said:
Does anyone have experience with these products and gyno?
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In reference to using them to reduce gyno?

If its fat mostly then the topicals should provide some benefit. If there is an actual lump thats been established then only surgery will work.
 
Has anyone experienced any joint soreness from AA? I know it is said to not be systemic but I'm still curious?
 
xhrr said:
Has anyone experienced any joint soreness from AA? I know it is said to not be systemic but I'm still curious?
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Hmmm...I haven't heard of someone experiencing joint soreness from AA. It utilizes a localized carrier, so I don't think that it would cause overall joint soreness. As Coop and Matt mentioned above, you'll experience some degree of systemic distribution. However, I don't think it would cause low cortisol issues like joint soreness. We'll see what Matt has to say.
 
How long can AA and Eviscerate each be used for? Indefinitely since it's topical or is it still best to cycle them like other products?
 
houstontexas said:
How long can AA and Eviscerate each be used for? Indefinitely since it's topical or is it still best to cycle them like other products?
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We usually recommend taking a break after running back to back bottles of around 4 weeks.
 
domore said:
Hmmm...I haven't heard of someone experiencing joint soreness from AA. It utilizes a localized carrier, so I don't think that it would cause overall joint soreness. As Coop and Matt mentioned above, you'll experience some degree of systemic distribution. However, I don't think it would cause low cortisol issues like joint soreness. We'll see what Matt has to say.
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I got heavy joint soreness. It's not due to cortisol...transdermal 7-keto use as human studies showing it crushes estrogen (something like a 50% decrease).
 
mr.cooper69 said:
I got heavy joint soreness. It's not due to cortisol...transdermal 7-keto use as human studies showing it crushes estrogen (something like a 50% decrease).
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Thanks for the input, Coop!

Why would PA say that his 7-Spray wouldn't have an affect on estrogen?

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Wow now I realize why I've been experiencing more joint soreness than expected. I recently started AA and 1 PES Erase per day. I didn't know my estrogen was being heavily affected by both. I was thinking the 1 erase was just killing my joints by itself.
 
domore said:
Thanks for the input, Coop!

Why would PA say that his 7-Spray wouldn't have an affect on estrogen?

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I don't know. He's wrong though. In fact, using TD 7-keto for 1 week resulted in lowered estrogen for something like 90 days after ceasing use in the human subjects
 
mr.cooper69 said:
I don't know. He's wrong though. In fact, using TD 7-keto for 1 week resulted in lowered estrogen for something like 90 days after ceasing use in the human subjects
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Nice one, two punch: estrogen and cortisol control! People are starting to see why you like the product so much. Thank you for the clarification.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
I don't know. He's wrong though. In fact, using TD 7-keto for 1 week resulted in lowered estrogen for something like 90 days after ceasing use in the human subjects
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I stopped taking my PES Erase for now and am just going to use it later. So technically this is addressing the cortisol problems as usual and also acting as a topical estrogen fighter like Formestane and similar products? Definitely a one two punch like domore said. This is amazing stuff!!
 
nostrum420 said:
Link to study?
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I did find this which isnt excatly what he is saying but does show lower estrogen after 72/100 days. I would not think though with the carrier in AA this would be possible as its localized but it many be possible for a product like 7-spray

"Application of 25mg 7-keto via a topical cream for 8 days has failed to note any decreases in serum estradiol during treatment, although a decrease in estraiol was noted on days 72 and 100 (reaching 48% of baseline value) which coincided with decreases in serum SHBG.[22] 200mg of 7-keto for 8 weeks in otherwise obese persons in combination with exercise and a calorically restricted diet failed to significantly influenced estradiol levels in serum (this study only measured serum estradiol of 6 persons)."
 
I was wondering does adding liquid clen to this make a difference for someone in 18-20 percent bf range or is that mainly for folks already lean
 
Jbrooks said:
I was wondering does adding liquid clen to this make a difference for someone in 18-20 percent bf range or is that mainly for folks already lean
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Tough call...the mode of action of Clen would make a difference, it's just unlikely that it would really be noticeable over 15%.
 
halfhuman said:
Dsade what you think on running AA while on cycle? Or eviscerate?
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How do your cycles normally treat you? I would definitely opt for Eviscerate, personally.
 
dsade said:
How do your cycles normally treat you? I would definitely opt for Eviscerate, personally.
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My cycles treat me good. Going to run S.dmz bridged into Hdrol.

Awesome I'll go with eviscerate than.

How about a sponsored log? :-) would love to run it for 8 weeks.
 
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