EvoMuse DCP Writeup

HIT4ME said:
Did you ever try taking it with bromelain or at least with orange triad?
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Yea two ot and two dcp , I have some digestive enzymes what you think about adding that ?
 
luckylefty811 said:
Yea two ot and two dcp , I have some digestive enzymes what you think about adding that ?
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Add them in and see if it helps. Don't think it can hurt. You could always take 3-4 OT before a dose of DCP and see if morr helps....just to test.

Do you take probiotics?
 
HIT4ME said:
Add them in and see if it helps. Don't think it can hurt. You could always take 3-4 OT before a dose of DCP and see if morr helps....just to test.

Do you take probiotics?
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I take one gut health per day usually at night
 
PharmAnalyst said:
Restock on this soon? Went through 4 bottles, this is amazing stuff.
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Shouldn't be too long, Matt is just waiting for the Mangiferin ingredient to clear customs. Sorry I couldn't give you concrete timeframe. Perhaps he will chime in.
 
DCP is now up for presale and should be delivered in about 10 days. This production facility is VERY reputable, and their word is solid.

Presale stock is limited.

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I have one bottle left of dcp what is the best way to dose it? Empty stomach with two orange triads? With meals or after? I haven't had great success with it I don't know why. I can't get past the stomach cramps
 
luckylefty811 said:
I have one bottle left of dcp what is the best way to dose it? Empty stomach with two orange triads? With meals or after? I haven't had great success with it I don't know why. I can't get past the stomach cramps
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Sorry I don't know how else to help....i know capsaicin stomach cramps can suck hard. What brand probiotic are you taking? If you are having issues I would go with either Evomuse Gut Health or there is one on Amazon by Nexabiotic that has suited me very well also.

Beyond that and the Orange Triad, maybe just buying some bromelain and dosing in addition to the OT may help.

For me the 2 OT w/ 2 DCP and a good probiotic worked great and I never had any issues once I figured that out.
 
And it would probably be worth taking he probiotic a couple weeks before starting the DCP.
 
HIT4ME said:
And it would probably be worth taking he probiotic a couple weeks before starting the DCP.
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I have gut health but I'm running low I usually only take one, do you do 3x gut health? One with each does of 2 dcp?
 
luckylefty811 said:
I have gut health but I'm running low I usually only take one, do you do 3x gut health? One with each does of 2 dcp?
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No. I don't take extra probiotics. If you're taking it for the label I don't think you can do much better than that. My guess is the bromelain will be the big help.
 
Either that or start with 1 cap of the DCP per serving for a few days then kick it up to full dosing. This has also had a lot of success as the stomach gets used to it.
 
dsade said:
Either that or start with 1 cap of the DCP per serving for a few days then kick it up to full dosing. This has also had a lot of success as the stomach gets used to it.
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Yeah, it helped a little doing this but I still had discomfort even 2 months into it.
 
dsade said:
Either that or start with 1 cap of the DCP per serving for a few days then kick it up to full dosing. This has also had a lot of success as the stomach gets used to it.
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I was thinking doing 4 per day for a while spaced out what you think?
 
I take 2 first thing in the morning empty stomach with 1 ammo and 1.5g LCLT, 2 with lunch, 2 with dinner and 1 at night. I take 2 gut health every night with ZMA and fish oil and I've never had any stomach pain or discomfort that a lot of people experienced.
 
Presale is back up again. Should begin shipping on Wednesday.
 
GreenMachineX said:
Still tracking this?
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UPS accounced some weather delays, but they don't look to be affecting transit at all. Still hoping for delivery tomorrow.
 
luckylefty811 said:
I have one bottle left of dcp what is the best way to dose it? Empty stomach with two orange triads? With meals or after? I haven't had great success with it I don't know why. I can't get past the stomach cramps
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Stomach cramps were bad for me as hell. Two things helped. One was drinking at least a bottle of water with each serving. But before that, I would take 1 pill, wait 20 mins then take another. That was i got my serving of two pills but not so strong initially. Also gatorade or powerade for some reason instantly killed the cramps one day when i got them bad
 
Shipping today.


No presales are annoying because the people that make the promises don't have to deal with irate customers when they are late, so couldn't give less of a ****..

Again, it all comes down to communication. When you guys ask me questions about timing all I have is what info is oassed onto me.
 
Im not going to call out a company in their own forum, but the reps are being misleading here (intentional or not).

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/olympus-uk/288266-q-ol-uk.html

DCP uses a 20:1 ethanol extract, which increases the concentration of the compound noted 20 fold. I don't use simple powder (plant matter as it's referred to).

No big deal as I stand behind DCP 1000% but I prefer that companies don't try to gain sales by marketing against my product with misleading info.
 
dsade said:
Im not going to call out a company in their own forum, but the reps are being misleading here (intentional or not).

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/olympus-uk/288266-q-ol-uk.html

DCP uses a 20:1 ethanol extract, which increases the concentration of the compound noted 20 fold. I don't use simple powder (plant matter as it's referred to).

No big deal as I stand behind DCP 1000% but I prefer that companies don't try to gain sales by marketing against my product with misleading info.
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So the intended effects from your extract of AI will likely have the same effect as their product? Basically, overdosing the one ingredient?
 
GreenMachineX said:
So the intended effects from your extract of AI will likely have the same effect as their product? Basically, overdosing the one ingredient?
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Direct PPAR-delta activation, while being the core pathway to increase fat burning, is only a part of why DCP is so effective.
DCP activates PPAR-Alpha as well.

Additionally, DCP increases expression of both isoforms. What you get is more receptors as well as more of the ligands for each type which massively increases the overall effectiveness of this method of fat burning.
 
You could stack the two products, obviously, if it's cost effective.
 
dsade said:
Direct PPAR-delta activation, while being the core pathway to increase fat burning, is only a part of why DCP is so effective.
DCP activates PPAR-Alpha as well.

Additionally, DCP increases expression of both isoforms. What you get is more receptors as well as more of the ligands for each type which massively increases the overall effectiveness of this method of fat burning.
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dsade said:
You could stack the two products, obviously, if it's cost effective.
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Yeah, in a very indirect way I was basically asking if I could stack the 2 lol. Thanks.
 
holiday season inspired DCP run lol.

Curious mate, do you recommend the same dose for females? (missus is about 40kg lighter than me)
 
scump said:
holiday season inspired DCP run lol.

Curious mate, do you recommend the same dose for females? (missus is about 40kg lighter than me)
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Yeah, I do recommend the same dosage.
 
Matt, how do you like the new DCP for a recomp? Looking to keep calories on the higher side, but want to trim up a bit and reset insulin sensitivity before bulking back up... on a side note, my wife loves it in her caloric deficit. Hope the holidays have been good thus far bud...
 
Max32 said:
Matt, how do you like the new DCP for a recomp? Looking to keep calories on the higher side, but want to trim up a bit and reset insulin sensitivity before bulking back up... on a side note, my wife loves it in her caloric deficit. Hope the holidays have been good thus far bud...
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DCP is, and always has been, the king of the Recomp. I do calm it my Recomposition Ammunition, lol.

Works great on a calorie surplus, especially with the PPAR delta heavy activation.
 
I normally take my dose 30 min prior to meals but noticed the new version doesn't say it needs to be. Just wondered if it still does and best strategy for dosing

Thanks
 
dollar662 said:
I normally take my dose 30 min prior to meals but noticed the new version doesn't say it needs to be. Just wondered if it still does and best strategy for dosing

Thanks
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It's still recommended, yes
 
Matt,

Can you check if Order #4069 shipped out? I have yet to receive it and tracking says it's in a pre-shipment state.

Also I did send an email yesterday to yahoo address.
 
dsade said:
You could stack the two products, obviously, if it's cost effective.
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Matt, maybe I am confused, but if already using DCP, why stack this other product? doesn't DCP already have the identical ingredient?
I don't know know what "form" or what not they are using but as you stated yours is 20:1. Are they claiming their Artemisia Iwayomogi is more potent or something?

So basically what I am saying, would we assume the form you have in DCP is better? Either way DCP overall should be tons better than that one standalone ingredient in their product.
 
I think I found the answer but confirm for me, seems they are focusing on and their product is based off of the bioactive (there are a bunch of them in Artemisia Iwayomogi)
Dibromo-4-methoxybiphenyl which they feel is the main active responsible for activating PPAR-Delta. You have a 20:1 but I am unsure what that means as I assume this pretty much contains all the actives? Sorry a little above my head here.
 
DieselNY said:
Matt, maybe I am confused, but if already using DCP, why stack this other product? doesnt DCP already have the indentical ingredient?
I don't know know what "form" or what not they are using but as you stated yours is 20:1. Are they claiming their Artemisia Iwayomogi is more potent or something?

So basically what I am saying, would we assume the form you have in DCP is better? Either way DCP overall should be tons better than that one standalone ingredient in their product.
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Well, first I', not knocking their product. I let my work speak for myself, and rarely will I bring up a competitors product. However, if my product is brought up, especially in a context where it is implied that my product is inferior, I will certainly speak up.

I'm not sure if it's been edited, but they absolutely implied that I was using an inferior extract and that they were the "first ones to market" with the ingredient.

It's a great ingredient, and we the first to release a product targeting a combination of DGAT inhibition and PPAR alpha and delta for maximum fat loss. DCP is unbeatable in the category and can definitely make a case for it being the most effective fat burner on the market.

Again, I let my products speak for me, and would prefer to be left out of the drama.
 
DieselNY said:
I think I found the answer but confirm for me, seems they are focusing on and their product is based off of the bioactive (there are a bunch of them in Artemisia Iwayomogi)
Dibromo-4-methoxybiphenyl which they feel is the main active responsible for activating PPAR-Delta. You have a 20:1 but I am unsure what that means as I assume this pretty much contains all the actives? Sorry a little above my head here.
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Correct. According to their analysis, the whole powdered herb contains around 3% of the active. A 20:1 extract would then contain approximately 20 times that by weight.
 
dsade said:
Correct. According to their analysis, the whole powdered herb contains around 3% of the active. A 20:1 extract would then contain approximately 20 times that by weight.
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Correct and they said they are not confirming which active they extracted so yeah as always seems DCP is a cut above... get it "cut" ;)
Annnnnd I just took 2 caps lol
 
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