Ever been called out?

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HereToStudy said:
If you are talking to someone who is a bodybuilder, no reason to hide it. If you are talking to someone who has no idea what a barbell looks like, you are better off just denying it. The uneducated would attach way to many judgements to it that it would be beneficial to deny it and move on.
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Right, and I understand the logic here. I guess my point is that it's more of a personal decision; one person would rather be a liar and deny it, while another person would rather be honest and (yes, most likely) be judged by someone they don't know and/or don't care about.

My point was I have wayyy more respect for a user who says, "yeah man, being big is one of my ultimate goals in life and it makes me feel fantastic so I used X for awhile to help me put on mass," as opposed to a user who relentlessly denies it saying stuff like, "no man I don't do that **** you're just hatin' you hatin' hater." I am not saying you need to divulge all your information to anyone who asks, but you can certainly keep your own business private as opposed to flat-out lying. There is a very legitimate difference in telling someone, "It's really none of your business" compared to "No, I've never used steroids."

In my own personal opinion, it takes a man to tell the truth, be it positive or negative, in any walk of life -- including steroid use. Not an inflammatory comment, just an ideal that I personally believe in.
 
Red Dog said:
Right, and I understand the logic here. I guess my point is that it's more of a personal decision; one person would rather be a liar and deny it, while another person would rather be honest and (yes, most likely) be judged by someone they don't know and/or don't care about.

My point was I have wayyy more respect for a user who says, "yeah man, being big is one of my ultimate goals in life and it makes me feel fantastic so I used X for awhile to help me put on mass," as opposed to a user who relentlessly denies it saying stuff like, "no man I don't do that **** you're just hatin' you hatin' hater." I am not saying you need to divulge all your information to anyone who asks, but you can certainly keep your own business private as opposed to flat-out lying. There is a very legitimate difference in telling someone, "It's really none of your business" compared to "No, I've never used steroids."

In my own personal opinion, it takes a man to tell the truth, be it positive or negative, in any walk of life -- including steroid use. Not an inflammatory comment, just an ideal that I personally believe in.
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What do you gain from admitting utilizing illicit compounds besides possible legal persecution? Seriously.
 
DAdams91982 said:
What do you gain from admitting utilizing illicit compounds besides possible legal persecution? Seriously.
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Also, if you read my post again, I said you could just as easily say "It's none of your business" and that would be the end of it -- you don't have to admit anything.
 
Red Dog said:
Also, if you read my post again, I said you could just as easily say "It's none of your business" and that would be the end of it -- you don't have to admit anything.
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I agree with your point to a certain degree, however....

If you have smoked pot previously, if you havnt assume you have because a majority of people have, are you going to admit this to any stranger that would ask you?
 
DAdams91982 said:
Because admitting illegal acts is the smartest thing in the world.
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You're right -- can you go highlight the part where I said, or suggested, admitting illegal acts is the smartest thing a person can do? I swear I was talking about my own opinions regarding personal integrity on a subject but I'm sure I'm just remembering wrong.

I just didn't know people got fined and thrown in jail simply for admitting steroid use in the past. I'll make sure I tell all the people in rehab who previously used schedule I substances not to tell anybody about it or they'll face legal action.

Then I'll go make sure everybody who smokes pot, also a schedule I substance, never tells anybody about that either or gosh golly are they ever ****ed.

Me: "Officer, I smoked pot 2 years ago, did steroids in 2005, and stole my grandma's vicodin when I was 17. I'm sorry, please don't beat me."
Officer: "**** you dude, now you're going to jail."

I said that I, ME PERSONALLY, have respect for those who do not try to deny steroid use, that is an opinion.
 
HereToStudy said:
I agree with your point to a certain degree, however....

If you have smoked pot previously, if you havnt assume you have because a majority of people have, are you going to admit this to any stranger that would ask you?
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Well I'm not exactly sure what you're asking here.. but in the situation you described:

If you smoked pot and some ******* yelled "POTSMOKER!!" when you walked into a room, it is my opinion that you should not deny it and say, "Yeah right man, I never smoke pot." That isn't to say you should raise a banner saying that you're the #1 potsmoker in the world.

You could choose to: say you've tried it before -- so what?, ignore him, tell him to **** off, laugh at him, ask him why he is being a ****, or tell him it's none of his business what the hell you do. None of these constitute lying or denial, which is what I have a problem with.

Does that clarify it at all?
 
Red Dog said:
Does that clarify it at all?
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Yea I understood you the whole time, but also agree it is a personal opinion. Your not wrong and neither are we, its just a simple debate over opinion.

IMO, to a person I would not who openly ask "Do you do an illegal substance" my response would be to ignore them, but if I had to answer it would be a no.
 
HereToStudy said:
I hope your logging this. I assume you plan to regularly check BP? Either way good luck, sounds awesome!
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Yeah I think I will log. Here's what its going to look like...

"A" Days - 10mg SD-LV, 10mg Mdrol, ketotifen fumarate before bed
"B" Days - 50 mcg T3/50 mcg Clen and increase when ready/Eviscerate applied topically and as directed

PCT - Toremifene, IGF-2, DTP, Suppress-C, Form-LV, Glycobol, Lipo6x, Black Powder, Green Mag

Hadn't planned on the BP check but would start checking if I noticed the BP type sides.
 
when you get to a certain size i think it's quite obvious so whats the point in lieing most ppl ask question about things they have heard i try to set the record straight.it's like a dreaded out rastafaian saying no i don't smoke pot
 
I have been called out numerous times...even before any usage. Which is weird because I am not epic by any standards.

How I handled it:

One of my co-workers saw me grab one of my boxes that got delivered, he said all smart ass like "More roids, eh", So I look at him and just answer a plain ol' "Of course", so after that he continues with "Man, I bet I could look like you if I some so many steroids too"....that kinda irritated me....so I look at him and say "It's not that I look very good, it is the fact you look like a complete bag of ****s and by comparison I am a f'n god"

And proceeded to walk away from the 340lb sloth.
 
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Red Dog said:
Well I'm not exactly sure what you're asking here.. but in the situation you described:

If you smoked pot and some ******* yelled "POTSMOKER!!" when you walked into a room, it is my opinion that you should not deny it and say, "Yeah right man, I never smoke pot." That isn't to say you should raise a banner saying that you're the #1 potsmoker in the world.

You could choose to: say you've tried it before -- so what?, ignore him, tell him to **** off, laugh at him, ask him why he is being a ****, or tell him it's none of his business what the hell you do. None of these constitute lying or denial, which is what I have a problem with.

Does that clarify it at all?
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If your wife asks you if she looks fat in a pair of pants, and she did, what would you say?

I consider Lying about steroid use to be a white lie and is necessary just like lying abothe the question above is.
 
one thing that bother's me more than dudes calling you out is guys that you've known for years denying their use.

I have a buddy who played FB at FSU , is 240lbs LEAN as Sh*t and has been even bigger. Could easily have a magazine spread (he's that jacked) But won't admit to anyone about using. He plays dumb like he doesn't even know what juice is. But he's sold me Clomid.....
 
hahaha ^^^ when you got a friend like that just start getting as big or bigger then him and dont tell him what your taking or doing...if he doesnt wanna share then you done have to either..
 
haha bro.. i went to school with brian cushing.. now plays for the texans after getting taking first round last yr... fantastic football player.. juiced to no end though... denied it soo much even though we all knew.. kid repped 225 36 times and box jumped 50in with a 20lb weight vest.. hes a beast but did some heavy cycles in hs and college
 
bigzach1234 said:
haha bro.. i went to school with brian cushing.. now plays for the texans after getting taking first round last yr... fantastic football player.. juiced to no end though... denied it soo much even though we all knew.. kid repped 225 36 times and box jumped 50in with a 20lb weight vest.. hes a beast but did some heavy cycles in hs and college
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bigzach1234 said:
haha bro.. i went to school with brian cushing.. now plays for the texans after getting taking first round last yr... fantastic football player.. juiced to no end though... denied it soo much even though we all knew.. kid repped 225 36 times and box jumped 50in with a 20lb weight vest.. hes a beast but did some heavy cycles in hs and college
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A family member of mine played for a big college (this was years ago) in state and was given roids by his strength training coachs and other players and will openly admit it to people. He isn't ashamed of it and I don't think he should be. He doesn't judge me for it he just knows that I'm not abusing it. I'm torn on my opinion of athletes using. On one hand I think they shouldn't because they should be in that position for the amazing natural skills they have and on the other lots of other players use and they have to keep up or lose their job to the ones that juice if they chose not to.
 
n8te said:
A family member of mine played for a big college (this was years ago) in state and was given roids by his strength training coachs and other players and will openly admit it to people. He isn't ashamed of it and I don't think he should be. He doesn't judge me for it he just knows that I'm not abusing it. I'm torn on my opinion of athletes using. On one hand I think they shouldn't because they should be in that position for the amazing natural skills they have and on the other lots of other players use and they have to keep up or lose their job to the ones that juice if they chose not to.
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he doesnt use anymore.. he stopped a couple years ago.. just gh yr round if anything.. hes not stupid about it.. and by no means is it even half of the reason he was first round pick
 
LOL @ the guy in the BB.com Shirt.... :jester:

Could they not find any Joe gym off the street even? :saw:

Looks like a marathon runner.
 
bigzach1234 said:
he doesnt use anymore.. he stopped a couple years ago.. just gh yr round if anything.. hes not stupid about it.. and by no means is it even half of the reason he was first round pick
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No I'm not saying that he only made it there bc of the chems. Obviously he's talented I'm not saying that.
 
I usually just ignore the comments. Occasionally if it is someone that is asking me that I know uses himself Ill reply with "All i take man is Flintstone chewables...But man are they a b!+c# to get through that needle." to illistrat the point that yeah I take them, but unlike you I dont like to talk about it. They usually get the point and respect it.
 
no offense to some guys on here but i am looking at these statistic and you guys arent that big to be on roids. all my buddies who have taking phs and/or roids are alot bigger for example my buddie who is 22 took a ph and he is 5'6 weighs 177 and is shredded. This is not everyone either some of you guys are FREAKS hahah
 
at1010 said:
no offense to some guys on here but i am looking at these statistic and you guys arent that big to be on roids. all my buddies who have taking phs and/or roids are alot bigger for example my buddie who is 22 took a ph and he is 5'6 weighs 177 and is shredded. This is not everyone either some of you guys are FREAKS hahah
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Whoa, 177lb at 5'6"? HE IS A MONSTER! :laugh2:
 
at1010 said:
no offense to some guys on here but i am looking at these statistic and you guys arent that big to be on roids. all my buddies who have taking phs and/or roids are alot bigger for example my buddie who is 22 took a ph and he is 5'6 weighs 177 and is shredded. This is not everyone either some of you guys are FREAKS hahah
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That makes me just a little smaller than this beast. Awesome, I'm almost a monster too!!! Hooray for progress.
 
actually that is bigger than all of you who have listed this. you guys make it sound like 2 and 3 inches isnt a lot. There is a huge diff between 6ft and 6'3 so i dont know why you wouldnt think there is a big diff between 5'6 and 5'9. I know he isnt the biggest guy in the world but at that height and weight that is still really solid. i am perfectly aware that there are guys who are 5'6 205lbs but they are prob not solid muscle and are not 22.
 
at1010 said:
actually that is bigger than all of you who have listed this. you guys make it sound like 2 and 3 inches isnt a lot. There is a huge diff between 6ft and 6'3 so i dont know why you wouldnt think there is a big diff between 5'6 and 5'9. I know he isnt the biggest guy in the world but at that height and weight that is still really solid. i am perfectly aware that there are guys who are 5'6 205lbs but they are prob not solid muscle and are not 22.
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What exactly are you trying to prove? His muscle weight to height is a good ratio? I can almost guarantee you for every person on this site that is not as well dialed in, there is one that would have a better build. So again, what is the argument you are presenting?
 
I get asked a fair amount especially as of late with my numbers exploding as they should :D But I honestly think I looked bigger when I was closer to 210 than now at 230. I know people seem to notice more. Aww epi is a wonderful thing.

I dont really deny it like a crazy people I just kind of laugh it off. Especially when it is people who will take monthes off from the gym.
 
every gym ive used always seemed to be like "i use, i can tell u use, no need to talk about it".

the general public will point at a 5'10 165lb 10%bf male and say he's a steroid user. but if uve ever taken steroids...u KNOW, just by looking at someone, if they have or havent.

theres about 3 guys in my gym currently that i can 100000000000% tell use...i mean they are massive and strong. im on no "high horse", but if me or one of those other 3 guys walk into the gym....everyone stops doing whatever theyre doing and just watch u.

other than close friends who ive told, i leave it up to others to guess, because honestly i dont care what they think.
 
A friend of mine pointed out the neck and upper chest around the collarbone seem to really fill out while someone is on.
 
ok over all my point i was trying to make was not about one specific person, but just that all these guys are saying they used roids and they dont seem to have great statistic to back it up!
 
at1010 said:
ok over all my point i was trying to make was not about one specific person, but just that all these guys are saying they used roids and they dont seem to have great statistic to back it up!
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welcome to the internet. make anything available to the masses and they will be used irresponsibly.
 
When I still lived at home my mom threatened to have me tested for juice and my ex-girlfriend told me I looked like I had juice face.

That's getting called out..
 
EustisPanther said:
LoL.. whenever I visit my mom now when I'm on, I where baggy close or long sleeves.

My dad saw a package from India once though.. He asked if I was using horse steroids
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haha. i try wearing the biggest clothing i can find...u can hide ripped, u cant hide huge lol
 
at1010 said:
ok over all my point i was trying to make was not about one specific person, but just that all these guys are saying they used roids and they dont seem to have great statistic to back it up!
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You know what everybody who posted on this thread looks like?
 
HereToStudy said:
If you are talking to someone who is a bodybuilder, no reason to hide it. If you are talking to someone who has no idea what a barbell looks like, you are better off just denying it. The uneducated would attach way to many judgements to it that it would be beneficial to deny it and move on.
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exactly
 
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