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Estrogen

Delita420

Delita420

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I'll be using Mass FX and Diesel Test Hardcore as a stack. I need a supplement which can help with increased estrogen related to the Mass FX. Would 6-oxo, 6-bromo, or formestane be best to prevent the estrogen build up?
 
i mean it depends, those all work.

presumbally 6-oxo is the "safest".

6-bromo is better than atd for stregth, atd dries u up a lot if u take to much

have u every tried forskolin?if not get advanced pct instead of hyperdrol)(stomach issues)

atd would be the cheasest option, it super cheap escially since u only would need 12.5mg

6-oxo is the most expensive.

So conclude from what i said.
 
Delita420 said:
I'll be using Mass FX and Diesel Test Hardcore as a stack. I need a supplement which can help with increased estrogen related to the Mass FX. Would 6-oxo, 6-bromo, or formestane be best to prevent the estrogen build up?
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Is this the old version of MassFX? The new version already addresses estrogen concerns.
 
Delita420 said:
It's the new version, but estrogen build up still needs to be addressed. Shroom juice isn't enough.
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Maybe you shouldn't stack two potent herbal test boosters together. I'm not understanding why you are doing this. Is this for libido purposes or what?
 
You can find it anywhere as Body Conditioning Solutions: Formadex. I'm doing this because I don't want to try steroids.
 
Delita420 said:
I'm doing this because I don't want to try steroids.
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:lol:Well if you want to see what its like to get the same type of acne that steroids produce, then you're on the right track.








Save your money and just use either product. They both work fine by themselves. Stacking them is not going to produce steroid like gains(......sides maybe, but not gains).
 
I don't care about acne, I just don't want to deal with the other negative side effects steroids produce... Broken penis, boobs... I know you can get a SERM and all that, but I'm not willing to use research chemicals and am not able to get a prescription for this stuff. I also like the fact that I'm not going to need PCT after these herbal testosterone boosters.
 
your better off using one and then the other opposed to stacking them though. your just going to have expensive pee.
 
In theory, they should work well together. They all have a different mechanism of action. Necroticism, would you care to explain yourself? Are you going to make blind suggestions without providing me with some insight to your wisdom? How can you knock a stack and not explain yourself? Is there any science to back what you have said? Have you tried this stack before?
 
just pick up some ATD its cheap and effective...at a low dose u should not have a loss in libido especially since ur taking MFX and DTH...i would say 25mgs ED would be fine...cuase i dont think u can get less than that per cap...have fun...
 
I'm going to try Formadex, it will get the job done and not effect libido in a negative way. I love being horny. Money isn't a deciding factor for me. I will let everyone know how the stack works out in the supplement log forum. I expect to start this stack in about a week or 2 weeks.
 
Delita420 said:
In theory, they should work well together. They all have a different mechanism of action. Necroticism, would you care to explain yourself? Are you going to make blind suggestions without providing me with some insight to your wisdom? How can you knock a stack and not explain yourself? Is there any science to back what you have said? Have you tried this stack before?
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How old are you?
 
Delita420 said:
I'm going to try Formadex, it will get the job done and not effect libido in a negative way. I love being horny. Money isn't a deciding factor for me. I will let everyone know how the stack works out in the supplement log forum. I expect to start this stack in about a week or 2 weeks.
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I think Formestane is a great product but since it has such poor bioavailability one would have to take a very large amount (500mgs) to get any effects...Low dose of HX2 will also be sufficient at controlling estrogen levels while also providing an increase in libido...i would personally just take 2 caps of HX2 which will provide 100mgs of 6-bromo...
 
slow-mun said:
How old are you?
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I'm a member of this forum to gain insight and knowledge, not to find a date. I wouldn't have any problem telling you my age, but you haven't told me why you have knocked the stack yet. The stack was knocked before age was an issue.

JaredGalloway said:
I think Formestane is a great product but since it has such poor bioavailability one would have to take a very large amount (500mgs) to get any effects...Low dose of HX2 will also be sufficient at controlling estrogen levels while also providing an increase in libido...i would personally just take 2 caps of HX2 which will provide 100mgs of 6-bromo...
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Now, this is useful.
 
but i do have to agree with slowmum here...Age plays a big part with these supps...DTH is perfectly safe at 18 and over and my opinion is MFX is too...but u may want to hold off on HX2 if u only 18...
 
All I want to do is make sure my estrogen levels will not be too high. If an AI is not needed, I will save my money. I was under the impression that divanil required AI. Does it?

I'd prefer to stay away from the AI, but everyone has me scared of gyno. Lol!

If the AI isn't needed, I'll buy some L-glutamine instead.
 
Delita420 said:
In theory, they should work well together. They all have a different mechanism of action. Necroticism, would you care to explain yourself? Are you going to make blind suggestions without providing me with some insight to your wisdom? How can you knock a stack and not explain yourself? Is there any science to back what you have said? Have you tried this stack before?
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their mechanisms of action may be different, but regardless your body is only capable of putting on so much muscle in a set amount of time. while you may gain, lets say, an extra pound of muscle using both at the same time, its more likely that you will gain more than that if you spread them out, plus you will be more likely to make those gains more concrete if thats the case. im not going to go find studies etc to prove this, but it is typically the case.
 
why is it not good to run HX2 if your only 18?? I wana run a bottle of mass fx, maybe two at 6 caps a day and want to avoid gyno. How should i dose the mass fx so my body adapts to it the best? I also wana add something to help with regulating the estrogen. What is the most effective supplement in doing this overall regardless of price? could i stack inhibit e with 6 oxo?
 
pavb10 said:
why is it not good to run HX2 if your only 18?? I wana run a bottle of mass fx, maybe two at 6 caps a day and want to avoid gyno. How should i dose the mass fx so my body adapts to it the best? I also wana add something to help with regulating the estrogen. What is the most effective supplement in doing this overall regardless of price? could i stack inhibit e with 6 oxo?
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you could stack inhibit e(atd) with 6-oxo

supposedly anabolic xtreme markets bromo as this,
Bromo>ATD>6-oxo

Bromo at larger doses doesnt cause as much libdo issues, plus stregth gains from bromo,at least i think are better than atd. If u want a bromo only product id id go with AX advanced pct.

ATD, u have to do dose it right, definately dont go above 25mg
ive found it be effect in as low as 7.5mg.

If u just want a preventative measure for gyno id go with low dose atd

as a side note, if u dont know which one to pick,u can go with iforce revistrol that covers everything.
Estrogen Modulation Matrix (EMM) 124mg *
6-Bromoandrostenedione
6-Etioallochol-1,4-Diene-3,17-Dione
Indole-3-Carbinol (L3C)
S.E.R.M. Matrix 500mg *
Trans-Resveratrol
Eurycoma Longifolia

personally at your age, i dont know hold old u are, but yeah a rule of thumb is not to take them before 18.

Also lowering estrogen can causes imbalance in lipid values and perhaps increased heart rate,(something which i have noticed from ai's)

also i just thought ive reverse plus nutraplanet 6-oxo would be your 'safest" bet, but this would run about 70 dollars, but u said money isnt an object.
 
ari4216 said:
you could stack inhibit e(atd) with 6-oxo

supposedly anabolic xtreme markets bromo as this,
Bromo>ATD>6-oxo

Bromo at larger doses doesnt cause as much libdo issues, plus stregth gains from bromo,at least i think are better than atd. If u want a bromo only product id id go with AX advanced pct.

ATD, u have to do dose it right, definately dont go above 25mg
ive found it be effect in as low as 7.5mg.

If u just want a preventative measure for gyno id go with low dose atd

as a side note, if u dont know which one to pick,u can go with iforce revistrol that covers everything.
Estrogen Modulation Matrix (EMM) 124mg *
6-Bromoandrostenedione
6-Etioallochol-1,4-Diene-3,17-Dione
Indole-3-Carbinol (L3C)
S.E.R.M. Matrix 500mg *
Trans-Resveratrol
Eurycoma Longifolia

personally at your age, i dont know hold old u are, but yeah a rule of thumb is not to take them before 18.

Also lowering estrogen can causes imbalance in lipid values and perhaps increased heart rate,(something which i have noticed from ai's)

also i just thought ive reverse plus nutraplanet 6-oxo would be your 'safest" bet, but this would run about 70 dollars, but u said money isnt an object.
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It's me that said money isn't a deciding factor, lol! You guys can rip on me all you want, but leave poor Pav alone. :)
 
your best bet is to run the mass fx, with a low does AI. From the looks of things, your somewhat young. DTH won't do much in that regards, especially if your running mass fx alongside of it. goodluck with whatever decision you make.
 
from reading another post, I assume your a female. By the look of the stack, I'm guessing your trying to jack up test as high as possible. It's still over kill, just use one of them. As for the AI's and females, I have no knowledge on that.
 
Haha never thought of that, lol. But very good advise on the AI's. Im thinking of doisng mass fx at 4 caps a day for about a week and then 4 weeks of 6 caps and a week back down at four. Ari, if you had that choice what AI would you take. Im nineteen btw, i was thinking about aPCT or reversitol. Are both safe options for me??
 
pavb10 said:
Haha never thought of that, lol. But very good advise on the AI's. Im thinking of doisng mass fx at 4 caps a day for about a week and then 4 weeks of 6 caps and a week back down at four. Ari, if you had that choice what AI would you take. Im nineteen btw, i was thinking about aPCT or reversitol. Are both safe options for me??
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safe for the short term, you just need to be in keen with your body and know what your doing, just eat extra healthy while your using, if noticing side effects lower dosage or stop. The stuff is not gonna kill you, its just not good for long periods of time.

Both aPCT and reversitol are good products i dont have experience in either of them.But i have used bromo in hypderdrol, and atd. Im just looking at their ingrediant profiles. I would probally choose reversitol because it just came out and sounds really interesting. It has tongat too which is nice,it will complement the, it doesnt have too much atd presumbally, it has tran-reservatrol which is very health and has supposedly serm like properties. Indole Carbinol is also good, and healthy, so it kind of balances some healthy things with some not so healthy things.

Also which ever one you pick u might want to try nightime doses but also try taking them with the mass fx.

Do a log if u can,thatd be nice, espcially if you did reversitol/mass fx because no one has done that.
 
james1 said:
haha he/she asked about these supps having an effect on birth control. I don't know any men that use birth control.
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:lol::icon_lol::lol:thats why i keep coming back!..i love you guy's!(no homo):lol::lol:
 
yeah im having a log of my entire off season this year, supplements and all. I think i may try the revertisol and mass fx, but im kinda scrared considering no one else has done it yet. The other option is to take inhibit e and aPCT. How would u dose either stack? becuase i want to also consider the pricing for a 4-6 week run...
 
pavb10 said:
yeah im having a log of my entire off season this year, supplements and all. I think i may try the revertisol and mass fx, but im kinda scrared considering no one else has done it yet. The other option is to take inhibit e and aPCT. How would u dose either stack? becuase i want to also consider the pricing for a 4-6 week run...
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Inhibit e is atd, aPct is 6-bromo. Those are the two ingredients in reversitol. Why pay for two supplements, when you can just buy one. Plus the I-force product has other goodies in at that are not harmful at all.
 
yeah thats true, new products just scare me. How should i dose the reversitol?? I was just concerned that i would need to buy two bottles of it for a four week period.
 
pavb10 said:
yeah thats true, new products just scare me. How should i dose the reversitol?? I was just concerned that i would need to buy two bottles of it for a four week period.
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no, one bottle, not two,maybe even not a full bottle.

but irsish canon said atd still there as an option 20 bucks for atd, at 25mg it would be a three month supply of course dont take the three month supply all at once. You can go even lower than 25mg an it still works.
 
i think personally, a 12.5 dosage can be enough to controll estro.
At this rate 1 bottle will last you years!
Just empty half a cap into mouth and chug it with water,(ive never tried this though.)
 
reversitol has how many milli grams of ATD in it? It just has a proprietary blend listed...

But as for my stack here what i got

week 1 mass fx 4 caps
week 2 mass fx 4 caps
week 3 mass fx 4 caps
week 4 mass fx 4 caps

How should i dose the reservitol? should i continue it to a week 5 or start it a week before the mass fx? Also would it be worth buying another bottle of mass fx and bumping the dose to caps?
 
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