Epistane and Furuza-A for an insane cut!!!

Yesterday

Workout
Flat Bench Press: 290x11 290x7 (i was sh1tting bricks in first set and i jumped too early into second set :slap: felt strong though im continually moving on bench)
Alt. Bicep curls: 70'sx11 (each arm) 75's x10 (each arm)
Deadlifts: 470x9 495x8
tricep extensions (rope): 60x10 65x10
leg curls: 90x11 95x9
Front raises: 35x12 40x9
Lat pull downs: 140x10 145x8

Diet
Protein~260g
Carbs~170g
Fats~35g
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2035 cals

Dosing
DMZ: 3 x day

Other
  • Aggression is way up, i get easily irritated.
  • Libido is non existent
  • my muscle feel great no soreness whatsoever, feel full
  • Im actually looking leaner
  • joints are aching: knees wrist and shoulder are giving me some trouble
  • my right peck is kinda iffy towards the end of my second set i felt as if i pulled a group of muscle fibers in the upper part of my peck
  • hunger is meh
  • pumps are effing great with just 2 sets i fell pumped!
 
would tren and epi and (stanodrol or pstanz or fuzzra or ostran-e) be a bad idea for my next cycle? or mabey some ANAVAR if i can get the money
 
2k1s said:
75 lbs dumb bell curls? if so deeeeeeeeem
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yeah but not gonna lie form could be a lil better so yeah, but i have okay form nothing extremely bad, i like to go balls out on my biceps.

funkd0c said:
Big lifts my man! :hail:
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thank you thank you.
FL3X MAGNUM said:
I like the whole extreme caloric deficit idea ;)
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yeah me too ive been trying to do that and im gonna continue to.

nickr420 said:
would tren and epi and (stanodrol or pstanz or fuzzra or ostran-e) be a bad idea for my next cycle? or mabey some ANAVAR if i can get the money
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seems a lil much IMHO i think epi tren alone would suffice maybe add some alpha t2 or cytomel and some clen. ;)
 
I'm taking clen right now, cant take it while on ph bp goes insane, also you lose reps b/c your muscles are literary moving 24 hrs a day, so you tend to burn out quicker. Usually end up doing all my lifts to failure, I like the feeling though when I physically cant do anymore. Also cramps are ****ing crazy on clen, I run 1 mi pre lift and 1 mi post lift every day I'm fine. But when I do my once a week 5 mi cant take clen b/c my calf's cramp so bad can't that I cant run at all. Tried everything more elc. more water, bannas came to the conclusion that your fibers are just geting over worked, still love clen though
 
nickr420 said:
I'm taking clen right now, cant take it while on ph bp goes insane, also you lose reps b/c your muscles are literary moving 24 hrs a day, so you tend to burn out quicker. Usually end up doing all my lifts to failure, I like the feeling though when I physically cant do anymore. Also cramps are ****ing crazy on clen, I run 1 mi pre lift and 1 mi post lift every day I'm fine. But when I do my once a week 5 mi cant take clen b/c my calf's cramp so bad can't that I cant run at all. Tried everything more elc. more water, bannas came to the conclusion that your fibers are just geting over worked, still love clen though
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eviscerate + clen + cycle= good cut.
 
rochabp said:
Workout
Flat Bench Press: 290x11 290x7 (i was sh1tting bricks in first set and i jumped too early into second set :slap: felt strong though im continually moving on bench)
Alt. Bicep curls: 70'sx11 (each arm) 75's x10 (each arm)
Deadlifts: 470x9 495x8
tricep extensions (rope): 60x10 65x10
leg curls: 90x11 95x9
Front raises: 35x12 40x9
Lat pull downs: 140x10 145x8

Diet
Protein~260g
Carbs~170g
Fats~35g
--------------------------
2035 cals

Dosing
DMZ: 3 x day

Other
  • Aggression is way up, i get easily irritated.
  • Libido is non existent
  • my muscle feel great no soreness whatsoever, feel full
  • Im actually looking leaner
  • joints are aching: knees wrist and shoulder are giving me some trouble
  • my right peck is kinda iffy towards the end of my second set i felt as if i pulled a group of muscle fibers in the upper part of my peck
  • hunger is meh
  • pumps are effing great with just 2 sets i fell pumped!
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Great feedback bruther :thumbsup:
Looks like everything is going smooth in here! Strong lifts too. Keep hitting them weights hard my man :wink1:

//CC
 
ConcreteConny said:
Great feedback bruther :thumbsup:
Looks like everything is going smooth in here! Strong lifts too. Keep hitting them weights hard my man :wink1:

//CC
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thanks brother hopefully i can still make progress.
 
Important Note

I might get burn for even saying but i think i want to extend it 2 more weeks and add t3 and clen which should arrive here today...i know its extreme but sides seem to be very minimal on this cycle and i think i could handle two more weeks, of course i am going to be extra careful save some cash and go completely bananas on supporting supps hopefully you guys believe in me, that i know what im doing, i think i will start t3 immediately and bridge into clen and then into PCT. As for PCT i have a ton of clomid and im loaded with ATD
 
be careful with your bp. I've decided that the fat rebound I get from being on clen isn't worth it. Ima stick to t3. I might try to get some t3 though.
 
2k1s said:
be careful with your bp. I've decided that the fat rebound I get from being on clen isn't worth it. Ima stick to t3. I might try to get some t3 though.
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i got both clen and t3 :cool:
 
rochabp said:
i got both clen and t3 :cool:
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Thats a killer combo ;) I believe in you bruther. No one knows your body like you do yourself, so I hope you know what you are doing. This is going to be an 8 weeker then - correct?

//CC
 
2k1s said:
be careful with your bp. I've decided that the fat rebound I get from being on clen isn't worth it. Ima stick to t3. I might try to get some t3 though.
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yea bp is deffiently an issue, and so far im down 9 lbs been about 10 days, would like to think most of it is fat and water, noticeably leaner. Been eating super clean straight chicken Brest and fish alvovdo and one carb meal a week.
 
Hey rochabp, I would rethink that T3-Clen on cycle if I were you. BP is one issue, focus on mass gaining is the other

My advice - finish out the cycle and PCT, staying anabolic (plenty of calories). Solidify the gains during PCT- make them yours permanently.

Then, after PCT, run a sensible cut with the Clen and T3. Just drop the cals by a few hundred under maintenance, and throw in some extra cardio. Lean out so you can see those muscles you worked so hard for!

My $0.02 - For what its worth.

-Slinger
 
rochabp said:
nice buddy is that your progress so far?


lol bro whats up with you and hurting yourself in the gym

you should really take it easy.
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rochabp if your feeling it and want to go for 2 more weeks do it bro, Id would probably save clen/t3 for a mid summer rip the longer the cycle the longer pct(in most cases)
I think its combo of physical work at work and gym, I didnt do my normal warm up on the bike and I didnt do my normal light sets before going heavy, seated leg press machine(6 plates each side) 8reps , shoulder is feeling totally normal, lol taking it easy for all upper body stuff, so I figured(like a donkey) kill my legs, my flexor feels better but theres some inflammation no doubt. tomorrow is chest and whatever Im feeling up to, I wish I was in Cali right now and Id go see Dr. Franco Columbo lol
 
ConcreteConny said:
Thats a killer combo ;) I believe in you bruther. No one knows your body like you do yourself, so I hope you know what you are doing. This is going to be an 8 weeker then - correct?

//CC
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thank you and yes this would be an 8 weeker

nickr420 said:
yea bp is deffiently an issue, and so far im down 9 lbs been about 10 days, would like to think most of it is fat and water, noticeably leaner. Been eating super clean straight chicken Brest and fish alvovdo and one carb meal a week.
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nice to see that bro

baitslinger said:
Hey rochabp, I would rethink that T3-Clen on cycle if I were you. BP is one issue, focus on mass gaining is the other

My advice - finish out the cycle and PCT, staying anabolic (plenty of calories). Solidify the gains during PCT- make them yours permanently.

Then, after PCT, run a sensible cut with the Clen and T3. Just drop the cals by a few hundred under maintenance, and throw in some extra cardio. Lean out so you can see those muscles you worked so hard for!

My $0.02 - For what its worth.

-Slinger
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i understand what you are saying but this was from the begining a cut had no intention on gaining 10+lbs, and i didnt as for the BP thats is def an obstacle which i hope doesnt hit me too hard and i will do my best to run this safely.

fightclub2012 said:
rochabp if your feeling it and want to go for 2 more weeks do it bro, Id would probably save clen/t3 for a mid summer rip the longer the cycle the longer pct(in most cases)
I think its combo of physical work at work and gym, I didnt do my normal warm up on the bike and I didnt do my normal light sets before going heavy, seated leg press machine(6 plates each side) 8reps , shoulder is feeling totally normal, lol taking it easy for all upper body stuff, so I figured(like a donkey) kill my legs, my flexor feels better but theres some inflammation no doubt. tomorrow is chest and whatever Im feeling up to, I wish I was in Cali right now and Id go see Dr. Franco Columbo lol
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yeah Epi has always done me justice and its gentle with me its almost like a Anabolic SERM for me, my balls get huge and i get massive gains and loose fat


so lets strap on tight guys cuz im going for it. imma go check if my t3 and clen have arrive in mail box.
 
dont use t3 while ur not on anabolics this is stupid. t3 will eat muscle just as quick as it eats fat, so only use t3 while on cycle
 
I meant to say I'll stick with eca. I've never run t3 but it does seem interesting. I think clen and t3 might be a bit much.

schwell, I've read articles saying that t3 isn't all that catabolic for some people. Clen is claimed to not be catabolic and I've seen various people claim that it was. People have run t3 with ds/ph's and have had good results. Not all of us want to turn to the darkside.
 
so this cycle has gone from epi and furuza to dmz and furuza to dmz solo and then BACK to epi ??
 
2k1s said:
I meant to say I'll stick with eca. I've never run t3 but it does seem interesting. I think clen and t3 might be a bit much.

schwell, I've read articles saying that t3 isn't all that catabolic for some people. People have run t3 with ds/ph's and have had good results. Not all of us want to turn to the darkside.
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no i agree on ph/ds its very doable, ds are still steroids and very anabolic, i misread and thought he was using t3 off cycle:nana:
 
swollen87 said:
so this cycle has gone from epi and furuza to dmz and furuza to dmz solo and then BACK to epi ??
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he is following the schwellington school of cycling :nana:

(i think he always planned on staying on epi... he just didn't have enough and couldn't get another bottle fast enough through IBE)
 
2k1s said:
he is following the schwellington school of cycling :nana:

(i think he always planned on staying on epi... he just didn't have enough and couldn't get another bottle fast enough through IBE)
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lol yeah he is a bad influence on me.
 
so here is what i got epi, cytomel (100 tabs, of 25 mcg), clen (50 tabs, 20mcg).
so it looks like i only have enough clen for a short 2 week run and i got plenty of t3

will T3 do anything in 2 weeks @ 50 mcg???
 
never tried t3 I herd you gota be careful with those thyroid products

"Thyroid hormone should not be used to treat obesity in patients with normal thyroid function. Liothyronine is ineffective for weight reduction in normal thyroid patients and may cause serious or life-threatening toxicity, especially when taken with amphetamines. Talk to your doctor about the potential risks associated with this medication."
 
nickr420 said:
no smoking meth when using t3
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lmao



ive heard and read the opposite, ive heard people recover fine as the thyroid can be shut down for 10 months straight and 2 months after discontinuation everything returns to normal.
 
i just threw PES's shift into my cycle, nothing like real T3 but hoping it helps. T3 scares me
 
tnubs said:
i just threw PES's shift into my cycle, nothing like real T3 but hoping it helps. T3 scares me
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im kinda scared but i dont care anymore lol :wink1:
 
Rocha you f'in rebel you. Fcuk the haters, achieve your goals brother!
 
rochabp said:
hell yeah!

Thug life!
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fu*k it, you should bridge the epi into boladrol for another 6 weeks.... stack the clen and t3 on top of that.....

after that, just start pulsing mdrol eod while you inject 100mg winstrol eod

just stay away from any ester test... test will shut you down... you dont want that!

then, finally, take tribulus and novedex xt for pct
 
swollen87 said:
fu*k it, you should bridge the epi into boladrol for another 6 weeks.... stack the clen and t3 on top of that.....

after that, just start pulsing mdrol eod while you inject 100mg winstrol eod

just stay away from any ester test... test will shut you down... you dont want that!

then, finally, take tribulus and novedex xt for pct
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lol okay i get it. but after these 2 weeks im done for sure. relax buddy.
 
rochabp said:
lol okay i get it. but after these 2 weeks im done for sure. relax buddy.
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lol its aiight man im jus messin w u (no homo)

watch for sides.... 6-10 week cycles can be done (even with methylated orals) but are dangerous...

what are you taking/ going to take for liver support? you might wanna get some bile expelling agent to be safe (udca)
 
swollen87 said:
lol its aiight man im jus messin w u (no homo)

watch for sides.... 6-10 week cycles can be done (even with methylated orals) but are dangerous...

what are you taking/ going to take for liver support? you might wanna get some bile expelling agent to be safe (udca)
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oh yeah chugging down the milk thistle and NAC. tons of water and i read drinking green tea helps protect liver cells so i started drinking green tea too. ill look into udca for sure though
thanks
 
rochabp said:
oh yeah chugging down the milk thistle and NAC. tons of water and i read drinking green tea helps protect liver cells so i started drinking green tea too. ill look into udca for sure though
thanks
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ucda is expensive/script...

milk thistle sucks...

nac is alright

SAM e and tudca (liverlonger) is great too

should i log a pplex/epi cycle????
 
oh yeah chugging down the milk thistle and NAC. tons of water and i read drinking green tea helps protect liver cells so i started drinking green tea too. ill look into udca for sure though

thanks
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ucda is expensive/script...



milk thistle sucks...



nac is alright



SAM e and tudca (liverlonger) is great too



should i log a pplex/epi cycle????
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Milk thistle sucks?

There r a few forms and concentrations. They all suck?

Btw- I take 1 to 2 grams a day.

Please shed some light on this.

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morry said:
Milk thistle sucks?

There r a few forms and concentrations. They all suck?

Btw- I take 1 to 2 grams a day.

Please shed some light on this.

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its good for your liver.... dont get me wrong... its great to take... it just has poor bioavailability... although liverjuice has significantly higher bioavailability allegedly.....

when im on cycle, i usually take some form of milk thistle and tudca... along with sam E ... i like my liver.... and most of these methylated orals wanna kill me and my liver.... its a constant battle

i did some reading a while back dana houser (md) was talking about how sam E was wayyyy better to take vs milk thistle...
 
Interesting feedback in here. Maybe I have to incorporate SAM-e on my next cycle :think: I've read a lot of good feedback on it too. And everyone should know Milk Thistle has poor bioavailability :p

//CC
 
yooooooooo i knoww that chick LOL
 
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