epi/tren question HELP!!!!!

[edwitt]

i ran 2 cycles last year, in both i had incredible gains retained 80% on 1st cycle only 70% on 2nd.

I have done a lot of research and clearly my on cycle plan was spot on as i gained 60lb and 50lb on my bench 1RM respectively for each cycle.

How can i keep higher % of my gains? for PCT i used a commonly used program where bros have reported 100% retention to small gains in PCT.
Clomid 100 50 50 25 plus Activate X starting begin of week for on cycle and all throught PCT @ 6 per day. Also upped the Creatine and added Vitex for Estrogen suppression

Training and diet was same as on cycle if anything upped the calories and had no weight loss.

I had blood drawn after end of cycle and was closed dwon hard, Total Test just 7. So what can i add to PCT to bounce back quicker, strenght gains start to fade around day 14 of PCT as has gone the libido for appros 2 weeks

 

[lmaiuri]

I would recommend a stronger test booster, look into diesel test I hear a lot of good things about it. Personally, and this is just a personal opinion, nutrex labs Vitrix is incredible when it comes to a natty test booster for me. IMO do your research and find what works best for you.. Also supplement ZMA into your diet during PCT

 

[gamer2be08]

"60 and 50 lb gain per cycle"?

Do you know some super steroid that I dont?

 

[lmaiuri]

"60 and 50 lb gain per cycle"?

Do you know some super steroid that I dont?

Just noticed that. Either a troll or a complete moron who's organs hate him from going to 140 to 252 in two cycles of PHs

 

[nosnmiveins]

"60 and 50 lb gain per cycle"?

Do you know some super steroid that I dont?

im pretty sure he's talking about lifts, not body weight gains

 

[edwitt]

Spawn the first cycle and Supremacy by Maximus labs 2nd cycle (Spawn clone) 1RM bench up 60lb and 50lb respectively also taken by weight from 220 to 250. 30 days each cycle with 30 days PCT 2months off then 2nd cycle. Total time 6 months

 

[edwitt]

yes total weight gain 34lbs was referring to Bench 1RM as i said in opening thread retained 80% and 70% of strength gains respectively over 6 month time span

 

[edwitt]

sorry.. Just edited my origonal post as i was not not clear about gains.. My BAD

 

[edwitt]

Back to my thread... Is there something i could be taking on cycle to help reduce my shutdown? Also i used same Clomid source for both cycles, will change source maybe it wasnt up to par... Suggestions for a more effective natty test booster?

 

[Kristofer68SS]

Back to my thread... Is there something i could be taking on cycle to help reduce my shutdown? Also i used same Clomid source for both cycles, will change source maybe it wasnt up to par... Suggestions for a more effective natty test booster?

testopro
stoked
dth
activate xtreme
HCG would really help
Sustain Alpha

there are tons of good boosters out there brah.

 

[nosnmiveins]

Back to my thread... Is there something i could be taking on cycle to help reduce my shutdown? Also i used same Clomid source for both cycles, will change source maybe it wasnt up to par... Suggestions for a more effective natty test booster?

the only thing that can help "reduce" shutdown on cycle is HCG. a good natty test booster would be diesel test hardcore by Get Diesel or Stoked! by AI

 

[bigzach1234]

does anyone here use the practice of hcg on suppresive ph/ds cycles?? i was thinking about trying it out next cycle

 

[edwitt]

where and when would you implement HCG in cycle and @ what doseage