EP1LOGUE Q&A

[horizons]

I got my lab results this evening. Without getting too specific, after 4 weeks on Ep1logue, estradiol dropped by 50%, serum testosterone increased by 22%, and free testosterone increased by 32%. I just started week 5 on Ep1logue, and may get retested at the 8 week mark (or I may wait until after I have finished the third bottle).

50% estradiol drop is huge....

 

[iamyourfather]

50% estradiol drop is huge....

its a little bit scary, 50% drop after just 4 weeks; so whats going on after 12 weeks?

how long are you taking it right now and what do you feel, you said you love it?

 

[horizons]

its a little bit scary, 50% drop after just 4 weeks; so whats going on after 12 weeks?

how long are you taking it right now and what do you feel, you said you love it?

If that’s the case my hair would be falling out (I’m heaps sensitive to AI) or sore injuries which hasn’t happened

Yeah I love it. The pump and the vascularity is just ridiculous. Makes me look fuller and dryer. The strength is really noticeable as well

 

[iamyourfather]

If that’s the case my hair would be falling out (I’m heaps sensitive to AI) or sore injuries which hasn’t happened

Yeah I love it. The pump and the vascularity is just ridiculous. Makes me look fuller and dryer. The strength is really noticeable as well

so you think your estradiol hasnt dropped yet or what?

i love it too, today was day 7 with ep1logue and strength starts to go up slowly; the pumps are awesome; you can really feel the muscle hardening up ~30min after ingestion, even on rest days you can feel each capsule. quite sexy feeling haha

 

[horizons]

so you think your estradiol hasnt dropped yet or what?

i love it too, today was day 7 with ep1logue and strength starts to go up slowly; the pumps are awesome; you can really feel the muscle hardening up ~30min after ingestion, even on rest days you can feel each capsule. quite sexy feeling haha

Yeah I don’t think it is, but I don’t have bloods to prove it so it’s all personal experience

It lasts for ages for me

 

[bhl08090]

Just finished my first bottle today. I’ve been in a caloric deficit since I started and I’ve still added at least 15 lbs to all my major lifts. This stuff is amazing.

 

[rowz4broz]

I got my lab results this evening. Without getting too specific, after 4 weeks on Ep1logue, estradiol dropped by 50%, serum testosterone increased by 22%, and free testosterone increased by 32%. I just started week 5 on Ep1logue, and may get retested at the 8 week mark (or I may wait until after I have finished the third bottle).

while this is gravy and all I did not realize UroB has AI like effects.. was running this alongside a product containing DHAA... should I stop the DHAA product give it a few weeks (after finishing ep1) and pick back up? I have 3 bottles of ep1 to run, well now about 2.

 

[00A]

Im skeptical of slickwille results, what other products u take along side this.. how can this be a test booster also? Even KingsBlood will not increase your testerone that much..

 

[slickwillie]

wtf .... is it supposed to do all that?

I don’t recall reading anything from OL where any representations were made regarding effects on hormones, which is why I decided to drop a couple of hundred bucks and find out.

 

[slickwillie]

Does UroB decrease SHBG?

Curious If that is why slickwillie saw a 32% increase in free test

Excellent question. In hindsight I should have also tested SHBG.

 

[slickwillie]

Is EP1LOGUE all you've been taking? Anything else that would warrant an increase in test? Interesting results.

Nothing hormonal as far as I know. In addition to Ep1logue, I take creatine mono, whey protein, FD2, Tr1umph, Celluvol, HMB, and Str3ngth. But I would welcome other opinions.

 

[slickwillie]

thanks for publishing! sound very interesting; how do you feel atm?
and how do you take the epi? (2 pre workout, splitted, etc.)

Feeling good!

2 on empty stomach 30-45 minutes pre-workout; split dose on off days (I started out taking 2 first thing in the morning on off days, but went to a split dose after reading what other folks are doing).

 

[rowz4broz]

Nothing hormonal as far as I know. In addition to Ep1logue, I take creatine mono, whey protein, FD2, Tr1umph, Celluvol, HMB, and Str3ngth. But I would welcome other opinions.

ive read that creatine could have an effect on dht levels

but based off this stack I feel like the percentile increases you are seeing have to be attributed to epilogue. I just had no idea that UroB could have such a significant impact upon hormone levels, esp since i think you said this was just after one bottle

 

[slickwillie]

Im skeptical of slickwille results, what other products u take along side this.. how can this be a test booster also? Even KingsBlood will not increase your testerone that much..

I can’t argue with you, which is why I’ll probably run another test at either the 8 week or 12 week mark. Plus I’ll add SHBG. With all the money people spend on supplements, I’m surprised more people don’t get blood tests more often. I’ve run tests in the past to check supplement claims supported by “studies,” and my results were the opposite of some of the studies. Bottom line is that not every body reacts the same to a given supplement.

 

[00A]

I can’t argue with you, which is why I’ll probably run another test at either the 8 week or 12 week mark. Plus I’ll add SHBG. With all the money people spend on supplements, I’m surprised more people don’t get blood tests more often. I’ve run tests in the past to check supplement claims supported by “studies,” and my results were the opposite of some of the studies. Bottom line is that not every body reacts the same to a given supplement.

Thanks man, much appreciated, Im like you, strongly belive in blood tests when it comes to new supplement and claims..i look forward to the results.. on my first two weeks, got two bottles..

 

[slickwillie]

ive read that creatine could have an effect on dht levels

but based off this stack I feel like the percentile increases you are seeing have to be attributed to epilogue. I just had no idea that UroB could have such a significant impact upon hormone levels, esp since i think you said this was just after one bottle

Speaking of creatine and DHT, I took a break from creatine for a few years, and then decided to start up again last year. There is one small study I believe of South African rugby players which supports the notion that creatine increases DHT. So I tested that study myself last fall. I first had a baseline test, and then had 2 follow up tests- 30 days after starting creatine, and then 60 days after starting creatine. My DHT levels never changed. So I call BS on that study.

 

[rowz4broz]

Speaking of creatine and DHT, I took a break from creatine for a few years, and then decided to start up again last year. There is one small study I believe of South African rugby players which supports the notion that creatine increases DHT. So I tested that study myself last fall. I first had a baseline test, and then had 2 follow up tests- 30 days after starting creatine, and then 60 days after starting creatine. My DHT levels never changed. So I call BS on that study.

interesting

 

[xtyler]

will my hormones be ****ed up after im done taking it

No.

 

[patrick25]

Nothing hormonal as far as I know. In addition to Ep1logue, I take creatine mono, whey protein, FD2, Tr1umph, Celluvol, HMB, and Str3ngth. But I would welcome other opinions.

Well FD2?

 

[jameschoi]

Who has the best price for this right now.

 

[slickwillie]

Well FD2?

I have researched your question, but found nothing.

 

[hamdysayed]

Quite possibly. UroB has some well known aromatase inhibiting properties. A boatload of people are using Ep1logue in PCT, a perfect addition if you ask me. No suppression and anabolic support.

perfect as a matter of fact this should be best pct I'll do, as I'm tired of gaining alot of muscles on cycle and losing them after .
I got 6 bottles to connect me from cycle to cycle lol

 

[VO2Maxima]

Who has the best price for this right now.

Good price at Nutri-verse right now.

 

[horizons]

Not saying it’s BS, but is it possible to post the bloods?

Anyone can come onto this forum and claimed it “did this”

I don’t really want to be playing around with my hormones. Unfortunately it all depends what time of day it was drawn etc

 

[Danes]

This stuff definitely decrease my appetite. Fuaaahk!!! i dont want that

 

[horizons]

This stuff definitely decrease my appetite. Fuaaahk!!! i dont want that

Destroys mine

 

[NoAddedHmones]

This stuff definitely decrease my appetite. Fuaaahk!!! i dont want that

How long you been using and what else are you noticing?

 

[Danes]

How long you been using and what else are you noticing?

Just 2nd day
I think my gut is damn sensitive. But some plants I cant handle when they are in caps. (Getting upset stomach ++) but same herb and quality in tabs, total different story..

Not noticing much yet but its to early.

I am eating like a horse so I bet my gf would love to see some decreased appetite haha

 

[Studhorse]

Nothing hormonal as far as I know. In addition to Ep1logue, I take creatine mono, whey protein, FD2, Tr1umph, Celluvol, HMB, and Str3ngth. But I would welcome other opinions.

So you're taking 2 Epi products? Ep1logue & FD2.

 

[slickwillie]

Not saying it’s BS, but is it possible to post the bloods?

Anyone can come onto this forum and claimed it “did this”

I don’t really want to be playing around with my hormones. Unfortunately it all depends what time of day it was drawn etc

I respect the fact that some (maybe most or even all) may view my results with skepticism in the absence of “proof.” Here were my options after I got the results:
1. Keep my mouth shut, and keep the results to myself.
2. Indicate the results in terms of what went up and what went down, but without specifying the actual percentage increases or decreases.
3. Spell it out as I did with percentage changes.
4. Reveal my exact numbers, including baseline.
5. Or the ultimate proof- pics of the LabCorp results.

I’m frankly too embarrassed to reveal my actual testosterone numbers. I will say this - I am concerned about my estradiol number. It fell from 19.7 to 10.9.

But I never intended my results to somehow be viewed as the definitive word on the anabolic effects of Ep1logue, or that it would serve as a “study” to be published in some journal. I would not suggest that anyone rely on my results; folks should do their own blood work. Hell, my results may flip the next time I have my blood drawn.

The folks from OL are free to weigh in on whether my results are out of line with their own research.

 

[slickwillie]

So you're taking 2 Epi products? Ep1logue & FD2.

Yes indeed.

 

[hamdysayed]

This stuff definitely decrease my appetite. Fuaaahk!!! i dont want that

if this is true this will be awesome bro, but I doubt it most of these supps if they do suppress appetite it's like temporary

 

[thebigt]

if this is true this will be awesome bro, but I doubt it most of these supps if they do suppress appetite it's like temporary

lol...everything in life is temporary!!!

 

[hamdysayed]

lol...everything in life is temporary!!!

lol true, not a single supplement that i tried made my appetite suppressed, but methylated ph and AAS .

 

[horizons]

I respect the fact that some (maybe most or even all) may view my results with skepticism in the absence of “proof.” Here were my options after I got the results:
1. Keep my mouth shut, and keep the results to myself.
2. Indicate the results in terms of what went up and what went down, but without specifying the actual percentage increases or decreases.
3. Spell it out as I did with percentage changes.
4. Reveal my exact numbers, including baseline.
5. Or the ultimate proof- pics of the LabCorp results.

I’m frankly too embarrassed to reveal my actual testosterone numbers. I will say this - I am concerned about my estradiol number. It fell from 19.7 to 10.9.

But I never intended my results to somehow be viewed as the definitive word on the anabolic effects of Ep1logue, or that it would serve as a “study” to be published in some journal. I would not suggest that anyone rely on my results; folks should do their own blood work. Hell, my results may flip the next time I have my blood drawn.

The folks from OL are free to weigh in on whether my results are out of line with their own research.

Thanks for your mature response!

 

[xtyler]

This stuff definitely decrease my appetite. Fuaaahk!!! i dont want that

Okay, but you should also mention that a mix of weed and Cypropheptadine lowers your appetite too :crackhead:
Possibly because you're already stuffing your face with 6k calories a day lol

 

[Danes]

Okay, but you should also mention that a mix of weed and Cypropheptadine lowers your appetite too :crackhead:
Possibly because you're already stuffing your face with 6k calories a day lol

Hahah
The good thing is, it does not KILL my stomach (no crazy upset stomach, stomach aches etc). Just decreased appetite.

 

[Geoffr]

Using Epilouge in my PCT.... along with Xgels, Reduce XT, Mtest, DermaStrength Unleashed, MK677...

Should I avoid taking it close to the same time as any of the above mentioned products? Also best time to dose it?

 

[iamyourfather]

day 9:

- pumps still top notch
- strength is up
- endurance should also be up a little (cant say for sure because i used a pre workout)

will run it 12 weeks, love it so far

 

[bonbon]

Day 5 for me. Although I train fasted (16 hour fast), I am getting decent pump and have endurance to train. So far so good.

 

[carguy123]

day 9:

- pumps still top notch
- strength is up
- endurance should also be up a little (cant say for sure because i used a pre workout)

will run it 12 weeks, love it so far

For me the shining star of this product has been the increase in endurance, I blow through my usual sessions and end up adding more volume at the end as I dont feel exhausted like normal.

 

[carguy123]

day 9:

- pumps still top notch
- strength is up
- endurance should also be up a little (cant say for sure because i used a pre workout)

will run it 12 weeks, love it so far

For me the shining star of this product has been the increase in endurance, I blow through my usual sessions and end up adding more volume at the end as I dont feel exhausted like normal.

 

[iamyourfather]

For me the shining star of this product has been the increase in endurance, I blow through my usual sessions and end up adding more volume at the end as I dont feel exhausted like normal.

how long are you on now? and do you feel some increase in strength as well?

 

[xtyler]

For me the shining star of this product has been the increase in endurance, I blow through my usual sessions and end up adding more volume at the end as I dont feel exhausted like normal.

Well, adjust your CHO/PRO intake accordingly and just grow

 

[iamyourfather]

EP1LOGUE Q&A

Well, adjust your CHO/PRO intake accordingly and just grow

whats CHO? PRO looks like proteine, dont know what CHO should mean. okay, its carbohydrates maybe.

or you mean something totally different haha
never seen these short terms

 

[carguy123]

how long are you on now? and do you feel some increase in strength as well?

This is my 4th week, have about 4 days of caps left in my first bottle. I definitely noticed a slight increase in strength also, weights I use to struggle with are now much easier and I am able to bang out a few more reps then normal.

Well, adjust your CHO/PRO intake accordingly and just grow

Thats the plan for my next bottle now that I see the full potential of this stuff

 

[xtyler]

whats CHO? PRO looks like proteine, dont know what CHO should mean. okay, its carbohydrates maybe.

or you mean something totally different haha
never seen these short terms

LOL yeah it's carbs...

 

[paul56778]

I always use Pro, Cho, Fat, as shorter abbreviations when planning out my kcals and macros for diets.

 

[HITFrank]

This stuff definitely decrease my appetite. Fuaaahk!!! i dont want that

Just what I need! Want to get ripped

Thanks for the bottle, you are a true gent!

 

[Danes]

Just what I need! Want to get ripped

Thanks for the bottle, you are a true gent!

Haha i think you will love it
No problem sir