EndoSurge and Hair Loss

[SuppBro]

I have tried searching and found lots of post for BPS EndoDurge but nobody mentions hair loss. Only things I got was somebody mentioning body hair and somebody mentioning their grandmothers hair loss who isn't using EndoSurge. Not one person mentions it.

Reason I must ask. It has nettle root which can potentially raise free DHT completely which would only lead to hair loss.


Has anyone noticed hair loss with EndoSurge?

 

[SuppBro]

Not one person can say that they have MPB and their hair hasn't worsened and not one person can say thy lost hair?

 

[BPS]

Lots of bottles sold and never heard this once.

 

[stopstalking]

N o hair loss here I love me some EndoSurge

 

[SuppBro]

Lots of bottles sold and never heard this once.

Since your with BPS, would you be able to find out more about the nettle root extract. It says wide spectrum on it. Seen mixed stuff on it cuasing hair loss and preventing hair loss. Even if you listed everything in it I don't know what hair loss preventing property it has besides 5a-reductase inhibition which is irrelevant with all the free DHT.

I just can't figure this extract out.

 

[kisaj]

I've taken 6 bottles of endo with nothing but positive results and that certainly doesn't include any hair loss.

 

[3clipseGT]

I myself have never seen anyone complain about hairloss with Endo. Also to source the exact ingredient of 3,4-Divanil i beleive is extremely hard, which is the reason for the "wide spectrum".

 

[SuppBro]

I myself have never seen anyone complain about hairloss with Endo. Also to source the exact ingredient of 3,4-Divanil i beleive is extremely hard, which is the reason for the "wide spectrum".

I haven't even found people asking either which I find odd as well. Things are looking clear so far. I love ERASE so buying one EndoSurge ERASE stack would be a good deal to try it. Just nervous since I am thinning as it is.

 

[3clipseGT]

I haven't even found people asking either which I find odd as well. Things are looking clear so far. I love ERASE so buying one EndoSurge ERASE stack would be a good deal to try it. Just nervous since I am thinning as it is.

I honestly dont think you have anything to worry about but i can understand your curiosity.

 

[SuppBro]

I honestly dont think you have anything to worry about but i can understand your curiosity.

Seems like creatine did a number on my hair and prior to creatine I lost hair off of L-Dopa + ERASE. Free DHT with nettle root would be like a nuke going off in comparison. The nettle root in EndoSurge must have something protecting the scalp like some of the nettle root write ups out there claim because I'm willing to bet some people used this in conjunction with Creatine as well.


edit: for info. Toco-8 while off of creatine and test boosters is enough to stop my hair but Toco-8 doesn't seem to counter the creatine. About the only other options would be DHT inhibitors.

 

[Resolve]

Have you tried double dosing the Toco-8? If you're that sensitive to shifts in DHT, I'd keep an inhibitor on hand.

 

[nattydisaster]

Pretty sure nettle root acts as a mild 5a-reductase inhibitor, which would slow down hair loss if anything.

But you have to remember that ~5% of testosterone converts to DHT. So when you increase your testosterone levels it also increases your DHT levels. This goes for any effective testosterone booster

 

[SuppBro]

Have you tried double dosing the Toco-8? If you're that sensitive to shifts in DHT, I'd keep an inhibitor on hand.

It would suck having to inhibit DHT below baseline. I can probably try double dosing Toco-8 temporarily while using Saw Palmetto to regrow hair. Than if I am lucky Saw Palmetto + Toco-8 can let me keep using creatine without loss.

Double dosing Toco-8 all the time would be expensive.

Pretty sure nettle root acts as a mild 5a-reductase inhibitor, which would slow down hair loss if anything.

But you have to remember that ~5% of testosterone converts to DHT. So when you increase your testosterone levels it also increases your DHT levels. This goes for any effective testosterone booster

If nettle root is able to completely free DHT than the levels of free DHT would be like a nuke setting off on hair loss. Some stuff suggest it may free DHT 100%.

 

[Resolve]

It would suck having to inhibit DHT below baseline. I can probably try double dosing Toco-8 temporarily while using Saw Palmetto to regrow hair. Than if I am lucky Saw Palmetto + Toco-8 can let me keep using creatine without loss.

Double dosing Toco-8 all the time would be expensive.

Inhibition is dose dependent. If you don't want to obliterate DHT, just take a low dose - experiment a bit and find one that normalizes your hair situation, but allows you take what you want. I have naturally high estrogen and have had to do the same thing in the past with SERMs and AIs.

 

[SuppBro]

Inhibition is dose dependent. If you don't want to obliterate DHT, just take a low dose - experiment a bit and find one that normalizes your hair situation, but allows you take what you want. I have naturally high estrogen and have had to do the same thing in the past with SERMs and AIs.

Curious, what anti estrogens are good for long term use? Don't have a long history of bloodwork but seems like my estrogen is higher than it should be next to test. Some studies say that estrogen can cause hair loss in men. Lowering DHT would lead to more estrogen.

 

[Resolve]

Curious, what anti estrogens are good for long term use? Don't have a long history of bloodwork but seems like my estrogen is higher than it should be next to test. Some studies say that estrogen can cause hair loss in men. Lowering DHT would lead to more estrogen.

I have prescriptions for tamoxifen and exemestane. I rotate between them as I seem to acclimate if on either for too long. My endo keeps a sharp eye on my cholesterol and hormone panel, but so far so good. I also love topical formestane - I couldn't find it for a while but it has recently made a comeback, so I'll be rotating that in as well.