Alright, I've mentioned the name... sort of.
Time for the AXclusive look!
Dr. D goes inside the capsule of Mass FX Black
Time for the AXclusive look!
Dr. D goes inside the capsule of Mass FX Black
I believe it's Doogie HowserDr. D from Dana Houser?
???I believe it's Doogie Howser
the d1-nma and 7-mf are really effective....Alright, I've mentioned the name... sort of.
Time for the AXclusive look!
Dr. D goes inside the capsule of Mass FX Black
It was a tv show starring Neil Patrick Harris lol
Hey, Coop! Yes, the TUI level is 40mg, but the conventional DM has been 100mg since forever. It's an arbitrary number I suppose (especially these days) but in my experience it doesn't seem unreasonable. There have been times I have used 100mg elemental equivalence of Zinc for years on end, and never became Copper deficient or presented overt symptoms of excess. Copper deficiency is the primary consideration noted with excessive Zinc, but Copper is not surprisingly associated with women, diabetes, and estrogen excess in men. In fact, Zinc is commonly applied in women as a remedy for excessive Copper accumulation after multiple pregnancies, but from my observation the results are quite trivial unless at least 100mg/d are utilized for extended periods of time. I only get 2mg of supplemental Copper from my vitamin regimen, and that's only because I can't find a good multi with none! Bottom line, don't be scared of Zinc unless your bloodwork indicates that you should be."This product only contains 50% of the maximum daily recommended dose, so additional supplements (such as a multi-vitamin) should not contribute enough additional Zinc to take you over the 100mg/day mark." Doc is mistaken on the zinc. This product provides 50mg, well above the TUL of 40mg (and actually a major reason I suggest only 3 caps daily):
While this may be the case for you, I have read numerous case series on copper deficiency secondary to lower zinc doses than you mentioned (in males). My main concern, however, isn't copper, but rather the strong link between GU issues and zinc excess. That said, it's a matter of chronicity moreso than acute dosing. While I'd prefer to keep the dose lower, you are correct in that a 1-2 bottle run should have minimal effects on copper.Hey, Coop! Yes, the TUI level is 40mg, but the conventional DM has been 100mg since forever. It's an arbitrary number I suppose (especially these days) but in my experience it doesn't seem unreasonable. There have been times I have used 100mg elemental equivalence of Zinc for years on end, and never became Copper deficient or presented overt symptoms of excess. Copper deficiency is the primary consideration noted with excessive Zinc, but Copper is not surprisingly associated with women, diabetes, and estrogen excess in men. In fact, Zinc is commonly applied in women as a remedy for excessive Copper accumulation after multiple pregnancies, but from my observation the results are quite trivial unless at least 100mg/d are utilized for extended periods of time. I only get 2mg of supplemental Copper from my vitamin regimen, and that's only because I can't find a good multi with none! Bottom line, don't be scared of Zinc unless your bloodwork indicates that you should be.
Coop, could you email me some of those studies. This is coming from a supp nerd standpoint rather than calling you out.While this may be the case for you, I have read numerous case series on copper deficiency secondary to lower zinc doses than you mentioned (in males). My main concern, however, isn't copper, but rather the strong link between GU issues and zinc excess. That said, it's a matter of chronicity moreso than acute dosing. While I'd prefer to keep the dose lower, you are correct in that a 1-2 bottle run should have minimal effects on copper.
Good question. I would be interested as well.Coop, could you email me some of those studies. This is coming from a supp nerd standpoint rather than calling you out.
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Agreed on the last part.
A good question for you both would be if copper would then be an ideal supplement (also include dose timing) to take with supplements that contain higher amounts of zinc?
I've heard/seen pro's and con's for taking/not taking.
For the studies, they should be readily available in any government database on micronutrients. Fairly common knowledge-type stuff (not saying common knowledge for you, but it's info that's out there). It can be a good idea to supplement copper, but be sure to keep that at a safe level as well. Many people don't add up their various sources like multi, sleep aid, etcCoop, could you email me some of those studies. This is coming from a supp nerd standpoint rather than calling you out.
[email protected]
Agreed on the last part.
A good question for you both would be if copper would then be an ideal supplement (also include dose timing) to take with supplements that contain higher amounts of zinc?
I've heard/seen pro's and con's for taking/not taking.
Hey Bio! It's been awhile for sure, and it makes me feel good to see you around again.Hey D, long time no see!
Copper is a tough one to dial in. I was adding a little copper chlorophyllum(for the chlorophyll per se, not the copper) to my shakes, but the newest data on copper accumulation in the brain halted that practice.
It was a tv show starring Neil Patrick Harris lol
LmaoNeil used to have girls hanging all over him constantly,
but then he started to neglect his Zinc intake, and only took Copper supps faithfully everyday... nuf said.
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