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ButtNgag was the only one left that seemed to be somewhat normal (Tulsi is still in and most normal of them all, but she really isn’t “in”) and he was the first gay one!

Now what’s left is just a big circus show.
She's who will be getting my vote. I'm not looking forward the amount of childishness that is going to come out of this election.
 
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Kombucha or whatever her name now is out. I'm still voting Gabbard, although I couldn't tell you if she's even still alive.
 
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Kombucha or whatever her name now is out. I'm still voting Gabbard, although I couldn't tell you if she's even still alive.
You mean your voting in the Primary? Here in NY we arent allowed unless your registered as a Demican unless she runs under another brand before she gets here and you belong to that brand.

I actually registered as a Libertarian 2 weeks ago and for the first time in my life Im not an "I," but Im still a political atheist at heart. I needed to sign up as there is some advantages for me doing so here right now. New York is having its first ever Libertarian Primary in April and I think I want to take part in that. Even at the least, Vermin Supreme will be on the ballot, and I still have to research the others.

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You mean your voting in the Primary? Here in NY we arent allowed unless your registered as a Demican unless she runs under another brand before she gets here and you belong to that brand.

I actually registered as a Libertarian 2 weeks ago and for the first time in my life Im not an "I," but Im still a political atheist at heart. I needed to sign up as there is some advantages for me doing so here right now. New York is having its first ever Libertarian Primary in April and I think I want to take part in that. Even at the least, Vermin Supreme will be on the ballot, and I still have to research the others.
You don't have to register as a party here. They send the ballot to your house, you choose a candidate from column A or B, and you mail it back in.
 
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Pete was a shill. Donors told him to get out so they could all back Biden. Same for Klobuchar, hence her endorsing him on the way out.
 
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A shill for who? The DNC?
He ended up that way anyway. Every time rich donors didn't like something he changed his platform. He went from progressive to neoliberal in a few months.
 
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He ended up that way anyway. Every time rich donors didn't like something he changed his platform. He went from progressive to neoliberal in a few months.
oh god yes! I don't get how people run at that level without having concrete stances on things.
 
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He ended up that way anyway. Every time rich donors didn't like something he changed his platform. He went from progressive to neoliberal in a few months.
So is it gonna be Bernie or Biden.
 
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oh god yes! I don't get how people run at that level without having concrete stances on things.
I remember not long ago, condemn wall street, boo to wars, big banks booo boo boo, this person is the embodiment of all evil.....um nevermind, go ahead and vote for everything Im pretending to be against so we can beat the obese Beaker. Ill go buy me a 3rd million dollar vacation home, 1% I is!
 
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Dems are coming out everywhere. 60% surge in registered Dems in Texas this year compared to 2016.
SC Dem turnout is just 8,157 votes shy of the record set in 2008 (532,151) with 94% reporting.
Trump fatigue is setting in. Women that rolled the dice with T

So is it gonna be Bernie or Biden.
You have the molester Doom-berg who has more money than all of Saudi Arabia has in the ground, so he is still a major player at the moment at least.

Then a wildcard, Hitlery comes in to save the party....I say closer to no chance in happening but this is a wildcard thats possible especially if Burn-knees takes the top spot.
 
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Depends on whether the establishment shenanigans work or not.
Are the DNC people who conspired to keep that "jew" out from winning last time still in charge?

I do feel sorry for you that your system is rigged with this super delegate crap, its a rip off. Im a supporter of the electoral college in a way (Id want it to be more strictly population based rather than faith electoral pick the guy though) but this Super Delegates scheme is such a con. I dont think Republicrats work in this manner.
 
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So is it gonna be Bernie or Biden.
Depends on whether the establishment shenanigans work or not.
Are the DNC people who conspired to keep that "jew" out from winning last time still in charge?

I do feel sorry for you that your system is rigged with this super delegate crap, its a rip off. Im a supporter of the electoral college in a way (Id want it to be more strictly population based rather than faith electoral pick the guy though) but this Super Delegates scheme is such a con. I dont think Republicrats work in this manner.
Some of the same people are there, some are out.

I think the Senate is a perfectly good way to make sure the midwest isn't forgotten; we don't need the electoral college, imo.

Republicans do not have superdelegates but they do have a winner take all system that is also, imo, undemocratic.
 
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Depends on whether the establishment shenanigans work or not.


Some of the same people are there, some are out.

I think the Senate is a perfectly good way to make sure the midwest isn't forgotten; we don't need the electoral college, imo.

Republicans do not have superdelegates but they do have a winner take all system that is also, imo, undemocratic.
Winner take all? What do you mean? Isnt that whats supposed to happen at the end?
 
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Winner take all? What do you mean? Isnt that whats supposed to happen at the end?
Whoever gets the majority vote from a state in the primary gets all of that state's delegates, instead of splitting the delegate votes to match who the people actually voted for.
 
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Whoever gets the majority vote from a state in the primary gets all of that state's delegates, instead of splitting the delegate votes to match who the people actually voted for.
I had no idea (and I never participated in primaries before!) thats a big rip!
 
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Winner take all? What do you mean? Isnt that whats supposed to happen at the end?
In the Republican primaries if you get 51% of a state like California you get a ton of delegates from people who didn't vote for you. In the Democratic primaries if you get 51% of the vote, you get ~51% of the delegates.
 
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I had no idea (and I never participated in primaries before!) thats a big rip!
yep, and it completely destroys any chance of a third party even getting on the board. I don't think it's a relevant system in this age and it's not a true democratic process. It's a game and that why so much time is spent catering to some states and ignoring others.
 
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yep, and it completely destroys any chance of a third party even getting on the board. I don't think it's a relevant system in this age and it's not a true democratic process. It's a game and that why so much time is spent catering to some states and ignoring others.
I dont see why that would effect any 3rd party since not a single one of those delegates have relevancy to that party. The only thing stopping 3rd parties from raising to the top is money and simply voters getting stuck in the false left-blue/right-red vote for lesser of 2 evils paradigm.

I see it as a jack for both Demicans and Republicrats, as much as I dont support them in any way they certainly deserve election reform for their primaries.
 
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I dont see why that would effect any 3rd party since not a single one of those delegates have relevancy to that party. The only thing stopping 3rd parties from raising to the top is money and simply voters getting stuck in the false left-blue/right-red vote for lesser of 2 evils paradigm.

I see it as a jack for both Demicans and Republicrats, as much as I dont support them in any way they certainly deserve election reform for their primaries.
Sure, the electoral college itself makes it so they don't have a chance, but even if there were a few faithless electors, they wouldn't have a chance to vote anybody else except the majority winner.
 
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Sure, the electoral college itself makes it so they don't have a chance, but even if there were a few faithless electors, they wouldn't have a chance to vote anybody else except the majority winner.
I dont think an electoral college system should be based on "electors" but based off of real math and populations. Electorals as it is now, is not acceptable to me. I dunno I guess this wouldnt even be an issue if the executive didnt have the expansive powers people have allowed it to have today and congress/senate had its true equal powers.
 
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I dont think an electoral college system should be based on "electors" but based off of real math and populations. Electorals as it is now, is not acceptable to me. I dunno I guess this wouldnt even be an issue if the executive didnt have the expansive powers people have allowed it to have today and congress/senate had its true equal powers.
I'm open, but have not heard a valid reason why we can't just use popular vote. We have the technology to make every vote actually count. If people want to write in imaginary characters or vote for one of like twenty people running outside of the main two, they should have the right to do so, in my opinion.
 
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I'm open, but have not heard a valid reason why we can't just use popular vote. We have the technology to make every vote actually count. If people want to write in imaginary characters or vote for one of like twenty people running outside of the main two, they should have the right to do so, in my opinion.
We should use blockchain technology, it will be secure and transparent. Im a fan of ID laws too, but not because of racist reasons, its just common sense to me. You get a single personal key to vote thats linked to your ID, nobody can steal your vote unless you lose your key but you can make a new key (just use your ID) and block the old in case you lose it or it gets hacked off your pc like a credit card.

What would be a good idea to me is that you dont have to just vote for 1 person, you can pick top 3-5 in your order of preference and if someone drops out votes fall to the next one so everyone's votes are far more meaningful down the line....or people would be more willing to risk going outside their comfort zone and familiarities of their party system. Speaking of party systems, Id be 100% down with abolishing them all in elections.
 
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If Biden somehow wins he will turn off all the under 30 crowd that Bernie owns. Will they bite the bullet and vote for Biden or not vote. Could Trump win if the under 30 crowd sit this out.
 
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If Biden somehow wins he will turn off all the under 30 crowd that Bernie owns. Will they bite the bullet and vote for Biden or not vote. Could Trump win if the under 30 crowd sit this out.
I think there are a few hardcore Bernie supporters who want him or nobody, but most will choose Biden over Trump. Imagine a Trump and Biden debate though. Fact checkers are going to be working overtime on those.
 
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If Demicans were smart they would pick this Democrat today and make Super-Doomsday feel like a real Super Tuesday.

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Sadly I think she'll probably be out after today.
Out of the cult maybe. There is support in the Northeast by some Libertarians believe it or not even though she is a big government program goblin. Id have to take her under consideration if she runs under an L, I, G, or anything including the Communist party. Well, maybe pass if she joins the last, lol.

The only reason she is out is because she is the most anti-Military Industrial Complex and they crushed her to the bottom and that is it.

The Demican Party is the pro-endless wars pro-mass murder party and thats another reason Bernie gets pushed out although its harder to do so for him do to the following he built up.
 
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She's a Russian asset...
 
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Oh, just repeating Hillary, and she was right about Trump.
Where's your proof she isn't?
 
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Oh, just repeating Hillary, and she was right about Trump.
Where's your proof she isn't?
Where is your proof your not Prezident Dump regime's top social media disinformation agent?
 
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Oh, just repeating Hillary, and she was right about Trump.
Where's your proof she isn't?
In all seriousness...

She deployed to Iraq for an entire year and served as a specialist with a medical company for the 29th Infantry Brigrade Combat Team and earned a rank as a Major. She went to serve overseas voluntarily rather than waiting be mandated. She has seen the blood and deaths of our American Heroes.

I think she deserves enough respect to strigintly assume she is completely innocent of everything until proven guilty rather than having the need for her to have to prove it the other way around and needing to respond to Russian bullcrap.

 
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Hillary was right about Trump, so that Trumps, Tully.
 
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Oh, just repeating Hillary, and she was right about Trump.
Where's your proof she isn't?
You're the one making the accusation so the burden is on you, plus you can't prove a negative. Facts matter, otherwise you're just trolling in the same way that Trump does. If you or Hillary have proof, then show it. If you just claim people are Russian assets because you don't like them, that's straight up McCarthyism and it takes the focus away from any actual Russian interference. But then things like facts don't matter to trolls.
 
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If Biden somehow wins he will turn off all the under 30 crowd that Bernie owns. Will they bite the bullet and vote for Biden or not vote. Could Trump win if the under 30 crowd sit this out.
Biden cannot beat Trump.
 
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This article outlines my issues with Tulsi quite well:



Defending dictators, Islamaphobia, homophobia (this one she may have evolved on) not as anti-war as she claims, etc.
How is she Islamophobic? I started reading the article, but also trying to hit a deadline for work and don't understand why they need to go into the beliefs of her family members.

This is obviously biased since it's from her page, but shows how she has publicly stood against Islamophobia https://www.tulsigabbard.org/tulsi-gabbard-on-islamfighting-islamophobia
 
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This article outlines my issues with Tulsi quite well:



Defending dictators, Islamaphobia, homophobia (this one she may have evolved on) not as anti-war as she claims, etc.
The very people the article is defending they themselves defend, prop up and give money to dictators. Its all hypocrisy. We have no business in Syria, Obama created the civil war in Syria and destroyed it along with Lybia prior and several other nations murdering and displacing millions of muslims that that article is hypocritically giving Tulsi a hard time for.

People support Obobo and now are voting for Bitten, they are far worse than Assadd on a global scale who have no only caused that destructive atrocity in Syria but were the globes leading mass serial killers at that time.

She grew up in a anti-gay environment, so did I in the 80s and early to mid 90s. Then I started meeting a few in the mid 90s got to know them and my views changed. That was the culture back then, its still a problem today but many people have changed. I have changed. Tulsi says she changed too so lets move on from that.

She isnt as anti-war as I would like her to be, Ill say that but she is certainly the least out of those running by far with Bernie behind her out of the Demican bunch.

I dunno why its wrong to call terrorists radical islamists. I mean they are radical islamists and thats that. It doesnt mean you think muslims are terrorists, its just a specific group. She should have added that the US, CIA, Pentagon and the Military Industrial Complex propped up, financed, armed and trained these terrorists from Muhahideen and Osama Bin Laden in the 70s to ISIS today.

Im sorry but that Vox article is total State propaganda.
 
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How is she Islamophobic? I started reading the article, but also trying to hit a deadline for work and don't understand why they need to go into the beliefs of her family members.

This is obviously biased since it's from her page, but shows how she has publicly stood against Islamophobia https://www.tulsigabbard.org/tulsi-gabbard-on-islamfighting-islamophobia
"She joined Republicans in demanding that President Obama use the term “radical Islam.” She was the member of Congress most willing to advocate for Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad. She dubbed herself a “hawk” on terrorism."
 

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