Do you like m4ohn?

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Do you like m4ohn?

  • Yes

    Votes: 143 30.7%

  • No

    Votes: 51 10.9%

  • Never used it, but I want to.

    Votes: 243 52.1%

  • Never used it, and I don't want to.

    Votes: 29 6.2%
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The guy who said he was dosing 100mg a day hasn't posted in quite some time. I'd love to know what happens at that level. I'm on 32mg spread out over four doses, and I can feel the quick recovery and I have gained some weight.
 
brodus, how far into your cycle are you? are you stacking it with anything? I'm thinking about the same dose next month. for about 4 weeks. cant decide if I want to stack it with 1,4 andro or not.
 
yeah, i'm hearing some good things. i went ahead & made an oil suspension & am doing the 4 x a day like you brodus at 10mg each. i want to see some results. using some 1,4ad i had on the shelf too. (about 700mg/day oral) i don't feel alot yet, (day 6) but i'm going to try some hst this week & maybe i'll be able to tell something then
 
I can best describe the feeling as "higher max workload with lower perceived effort". The "zone" and intensity/focus that people have reported from M5AA (which I also like), I get X10 from M4OHN.
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For you guys who get this increased energy and focus that's often been reported how do you feel post cycle particularly wrt to mental energy and clarity? Did you notice any negative rebound effects similar to terminating stimulants cold turkey after a prolonged period of use? It sounds like M40HN, much like DBOL, has quite an effect on dopamine.
 
may have some bearing/relation.....

Increased dopamine transporter density in the male rat brain following chronic nandrolone decanoate administration.

Kindlundh AM, Rahman S, Lindblom J, Nyberg F.

Department of Pharmaceutical Bioscience, Division of Biological Research on Drug Dependence, Uppsala University, Box 591, S-75124 Uppsala, Sweden. [email protected]

Adolescent males currently employ anabolic-androgenic steroids (AAS) to become intoxicated, besides the traditional desires of an improved physical appearance and enhanced sports performance. Several studies indicate that AAS affect the brain reward system. Recently chronic administration with nandrolone decanoate to male rats has been shown to increase the dopamine transporter (DAT) density in the striatum visualised in vivo by positron emission tomography. The present study aimed to investigate if the increased DAT density could be confirmed using in vitro autoradiography following a comparable regimen of nandrolone treatment. Specific binding of 50 pM [125I] RTI-55 in the presence of 1 microM citalopram was used to label DAT. Two weeks of nandrolone decanoate administration at the supra-therapeutic doses 1, 5 and 15 mg/kg per day increased DAT density in the caudate putamen at all three doses. In conclusion, this study confirms that chronic nandrolone administration increases dopamine transporter density in the CPU and therefore supports the theory that AAS affects the dopamine system in the male rat brain.

PMID: 14746881 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
 
ok, i think i'm finally feeling it. yesterday was day 10 @ 40mg/day. last night's training i felt just what y'all are describing the 45 lb plates just didn't feel heavy at all to load. all loads were up & the effort felt easy. trsained for almost an hour & a half, i never go that long. just really in the mood.
 
may have some bearing/relation.....

Increased dopamine transporter density in the male rat brain following chronic nandrolone decanoate administration.
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Yep that's the kind've stuff I'm talking about. AAS can also cause mania in some people and this is a state of elevated dopamine.
 
one more comment. everytime i have done a "methyl" after 2 weeks or so, i start to get these "aches" in my lower right back. i was thinking kidney? but it is really low, almost down in my ass right behind the hip bone? anybody else get anything like this? i just drink tons of water & bear it as long as i can. more of a worry than an unbearable discomfort. switch to transderm if i have to...
 
The low back aches/cramps/pumps/ect. is a given with M1T. I also have similar but less severe symptoms now, and I'm currently using 30-40mg M4OHN.
 
just strange it's always on the right side, i just don't think it's a muscle cramp. i'm loaded with taurine, potassium. it's gone today, i did milk thistle, nac, bac's liver support compound, liver tabs, & a ton of water before bed last night. who knows...
 
m4ohn gave me mild lower back cramps. nothing painful or anything, i could feel it being "extra" sore, while i was at work and when i layed down to sleep.
 
The whole cycle i never got lower back cramps, but towards the end i got a little. when bending over for a few minutes it felt tight and hurt a bit. Only the last 2 days of my cycle.

I ended up running m4ohn for 6.5wks....almost 7wks. towards the end I ran it at 60mg day (last 1.5-2wks). No probs at all, good body recomp.....look leaner especially in the love handle/abdominal area. More vascular. I started nolva 40mg on the 10th and go 4wks PCT.
 
SCORPIO said:
The whole cycle i never got lower back cramps, but towards the end i got a little. when bending over for a few minutes it felt tight and hurt a bit. Only the last 2 days of my cycle.

I ended up running m4ohn for 6.5wks....almost 7wks. towards the end I ran it at 60mg day (last 1.5-2wks). No probs at all, good body recomp.....look leaner especially in the love handle/abdominal area. More vascular. I started nolva 40mg on the 10th and go 4wks PCT.
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Did you really need the nolva? Or just playing it by the books?? I didn't even do PCT after my M4OHN cycle, but I never got past 32mg/day.
 
DR.D said:
Did you really need the nolva? Or just playing it by the books?? I didn't even do PCT after my M4OHN cycle, but I never got past 32mg/day.
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I got very little nad shrinkage.....i could barely tell. Yes, going by the books.....I always do PCT, no matter what, after every cycle....better to be safe than sorry and the stuff is cheap anyways. Reason i upped the dose was to finish off the suspension i had in oil, so it wouldn't go to waste and spoil.
 
I played by the rules for pct (or am playing I should say). Nolva, ZMA with trib, Liver tabs, and Saw Palmetto, make up my pct aresenal (I am also taking r-ala and creatine ethyl ester). I feel the same as before I started the cycle, so pct probably doesn't *feel* as its required, but Im gonna play by the book. I started the creatine a few days before my cycle ended, and its been almost a week since my cycle and I am getting good pumps (probably cause of the creatine, I hear the m4ohn has an extremely short half life so no way I'm still getting the pumps from that). The pumps are not as fun tho, I must say.. the m4ohn pumps were out of this world, while this creatine ethyl stuff, is alright I guess, still getting some painful pumps, just takes an extra set or so to feel them. So far its been a week after, and none of my strength has gone done. I am doing the same weight as where I left off on my last week of taking m4ohn. I also had some mild puberty gyno before I started this cycle, and that didn't flare up at all or anything. Sometimes I got scared that maybe its getting bigger but then I figured, my chest muscles are getting bigger instead (which they were for sure). So no problems there. Just some mild lower/mid back cramps, nothing horrible or anything, just some tightness.

M4ohn is an awesome compound. It's gonna be something I stock up on before the ban.
 
darius said:
M4ohn is an awesome compound. It's gonna be something I stock up on before the ban.
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I agree but my strenght and pumps results have not been awesome (pretty good, though).
I finished yesterday :) Like you, I started CEE a few days before the end of my m4ohn cycle.

I want to do another one or two m4ohn cycles next year and i will raise my dosage, as i had no sides at all in a 6 weeks period. Now my qyestion is, which dosage did you take?
 
Started from 16mg for first 2 weeks, 24 for 2 weeks, and 36mg for 2 weeks.
 
Syr said:
I agree but my strenght and pumps results have not been awesome (pretty good, though).
I finished yesterday :) Like you, I started CEE a few days before the end of my m4ohn cycle.

I want to do another one or two m4ohn cycles next year and i will raise my dosage, as i had no sides at all in a 6 weeks period. Now my qyestion is, which dosage did you take?
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My strength was amazing, but I got zero pumps too.
 
darius said:
Started from 16mg for first 2 weeks, 24 for 2 weeks, and 36mg for 2 weeks.
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And you weight?

You did it right to raise to 36mg. I'll do half dose for the first 2 weeks to allow him to kick in. This time i scaled it, but the raise in the second week is almost a waste.
 
darius said:
I am 6'3" and ~215lbs. I split it up into 3 doses a day.
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Thank you.
I split mine into 4, timing has been good, i just have to raise my dose a little or stack something else to it (like 1,4 andro... if i find it before the ban)
 
i just quit after 5 weeks @ 40mgs/day increased to 60 the last week or so. i've done NO pct. weight is unchanged, libido is up if anything (strong indicators early this morning!) it's almost like a weird rebound.
 
i liked m4ohn for the strength gains and lean gains that igot during the 8 weeks i was on it.however it was absolutely horrible for the insomnia it created. anyone else experience this side effect?
 
first week into my 30mg m4ohn, 900mg 1,4andro cycle. up one lb. seem a little leaner. strength up a little. libido up more than before I started.
 
s.norman said:
i liked m4ohn for the strength gains and lean gains that igot during the 8 weeks i was on it.however it was absolutely horrible for the insomnia it created. anyone else experience this side effect?
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Can you be more specific about your gains over 8 weeks ?
 
i used 16mgs initially and bumped it up to 28mgs by week 3 and stayed at 28 until end of 8th week.the 28mgs mohn was stacked with md.i noticed increased vascularity on arms and abs were getting leaner.no major size increases but all sets were increased as my strength went up.the md was 24mgs ed
 
s.norman said:
i used 16mgs initially and bumped it up to 28mgs by week 3 and stayed at 28 until end of 8th week.the 28mgs mohn was stacked with md.i noticed increased vascularity on arms and abs were getting leaner.no major size increases but all sets were increased as my strength went up.the md was 24mgs ed
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damn thats a SH*TLOAD of MD how much do you weigh?
 
im a distance runner but didnt see much improvement in recovery...i was only taking 8mg. a day tho... But the awesome feeling it gives me is amazing. I feel like im on top of the world. Sad to say, but this stuff rocks just for that.

I will use the rest up that i have this track season when im gonna be training my ass off to run a sub 4:10 mile..Wish me luck!
 
to s.normon, ya...i couldnt sleep worth crap on the stuff. But when i woke up and took a serving id be feeling like god a hour later
 
supermanMBS said:
to s.normon, ya...i couldnt sleep worth crap on the stuff. But when i woke up and took a serving id be feeling like god a hour later
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yeh, it was really hard to sleep on this stuff(mohn).i started to hate this after awhile as the insomnia started to drive me nuts.m1t made me feel like crap(lethargic) but at least i could sleep on it
 
I don't know where these "awesome feeling" claims come from. I didn't feel it at all, nada. Nor did it keep me awake at night.
 
rrgg said:
I don't know where these "awesome feeling" claims come from. I didn't feel it at all, nada. Nor did it keep me awake at night.
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How long are into it?
I got a light wellness feeling, that is "awesome" for other guys ;)
About sleep, maybe some times I had some difficulties sleeping but only when i wasnt tired enough ;) Nothing that can surely be related to m4ohh IMHO.
 
I did sledge's m4ohn last summer. No "light wellness feeling" or trouble sleeping. That wasn't the reason for taking it anyway though. Just my $.02
 
I took it, ramped to 32mg., DS tablets. I definitely felt the CNS stim, the mood enhancement, and had trouble sleeping, too...or rather, I'd feel fine after 6 hours of sleep, and just slept a lot less.
 
Would M4ohn then be considered a good athlete steriod. I mean, if it stimulates the cns, but doesn't pack on the mass, perhaps athletes who run track or play basketball would benefit from this mostly?
 
coofoostu said:
Would M4ohn then be considered a good athlete steriod. I mean, if it stimulates the cns, but doesn't pack on the mass, perhaps athletes who run track or play basketball would benefit from this mostly?
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I think so.
Someone on this board who doesnt do BB took it and IIRC liked it.
 
i just started another cycle of 8mg. and stacked with 900 mg. of 4ad, and 20mg. of m5aa.. Im thinking of upping the dossage to 16mg a day. Iv been told that the 4ad will add the weight, but i have been able to keep the water off with this stack. And the drive i have during my track workouts is insane!


I take the 8mg. when i wake up
with 300mg. of 4ad

preworkout i take 20mg. of m5aa
and 300mg. of 4ad

afternoon i take 300mg. of 4ad

and thats it, but right now its cc season, which i hate...5k's are stupid, but my last race i ran a 16:16, and my goal time for that race was a 16:40....now i want a 15:40.

But i take it all in the morning cuz sometimes i feel the effects and it keeps me up and goin, but today i didnt feel it working at all...Bummer
 
Man , the differences in people reaction to methyls ! I have terrible experiances with them ... even MOHN. I swore at the end of the summer it would either be real gear or just stick with T-1 Pro transdermal , but I'd never **** with methyls again.

Until the other day, I had fallen out of contact with my buddy who decided to go the real gear route himself last year. So witout my 'real gear' contact, I was just about to start T-1 Pro again. But for some reason I tuned in onto this thread for MOHN. Because I had a bottle and a half left , I decided to try it again since I've been clean of everything except my ECA stack for months so maybe I'd reap the benefits most of you have if I started 'fresh' ...

The very day I started it I got the opposite reaction all of you have received ; instead of feeling great ( which I WAS feeling before starting it ) in a few hours I felt a lack of energy, fell dead asleep a couple times that day and evening, and the next morning was in a deep 'fog' until about noon after one of those morning wake-ups where you don't know where you are or what day it is !

My training the day after starting it was so bad I terminated the workout and went home after 'attempting' squats ... as I felt so weak I had a hard time shouldering the bar off the pins let alone doing the exercise.

All of these methyls have had this rotten effect one me ... hard to believe it's so much different than the rest of you experianced, but that's the way it is for me - just nasty!

I wonder if 'real gear' will have the same bad effect on me ? I guess I'll find out eventually, but to be sure I never get tempted into this methyl ****-hole again I flushed the rest of the MOHN, some 5AA and the disgusting MT1 down the toilet this morning. I should have done it a couple months ago.
 
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Crotalus said:
The very day I started it I got the opposite reaction all of you have received
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Very strange... Maybe you have an adverse reaction to methyl.
Is your liver good?
Maybe you should do a blood test and check your liver values
 
Yeah, I react to methyl in a real bad way but the liver value test might be in order also. I never had one done and the messing with methyl's in the last year would have been the only thing I could say would have screwed with it as I never was a drinker, drug user, etc. Plus my doses of the methyls were about what was suggested , not anything nuts .

I did have a torn pec minor and knee problem years ago that had me eating Ibprofen like M&M's ... maybe that did something ... ?

Would the test I'm looking for be just a 'Liver Profile' test ?
 
Crotalus - Which brand of mohn did you use? Some places were unknowningly selling something that isn't actually mohn.
 
Crotalus said:
Would the test I'm looking for be just a 'Liver Profile' test ?
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At your place I'd run a full blood test and I'll check also for epatitis and mononucleosis.
 
I can do the liver and kidney test ... but hepatitis has 14 different tests ranging from $90.00 to over $400.00 and without health insurance that isn't happening. I seriously doubt I'm 'sick' with mono or hepatitis , as the only time I've felt fucked up like this was while trying these methyls , so it's no doubt connected directly to it.

Can't believe the night and day difference of how I felt with my system clean of this **** and only 24 hours back on ... how fast it affected me in such a shitty way - and not even using MT-1 , which I wouldn't have attempted using again even if someone held a shotgun to my head.

I'm not saying I was 'dying' , I just suddenly felt totally 'out-of-it' opon waking after falling asleep in the afternoon - and before was loaded with energy and having great, progressive workouts. After a full day of the methyl and a dose in the morning looking for the great feeling you guys talked about with MOHN , I instead felt like I fell down a flight of stairs .

It's twelve hours off of that crap now and alot feeling better , but still not back to normal.

What a fuckin asshole ... I knew it wasn't for me but just had to try it again :frustrate :frustrate :frustrate
 
Crotalus said:
I can do the liver and kidney test ... but hepatitis has 14 different tests ranging from $90.00 to over $400.00 and without health insurance that isn't happening. I seriously doubt I'm 'sick' with mono or hepatitis , as the only time I've felt fucked up like this was while trying these methyls , so it's no doubt connected directly to it.
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There can be no symptoms for months or years of such diseases. Some people took mono and healed from it without knowing.
But there are 3 types of epatitis and you may exclude one or two of them, depending on your activities (i.e. if you have risk factors).
I really hope you are just "alergic" to methylated compounds.

It's twelve hours off of that crap now and alot feeling better , but still not back to normal.
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Well, at least help your liver taking milk thristle and NAC for a couple of weeks.
 
Just started

One week into a MOHN only cycle.
Started @ 8 mg now @ 16mg.

Way back in the day I could do a Deca only cycle and get great gains...I respond very well to everything.

I'll keep you all posted if this goes well.
 
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