Discussion: USP Compound 20

chedapalooza

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C20 was inner circle released today.. Haven't been able to gather much intel on it oter than the ingredient list.. Wondering:::

- why one would use it (what effects should one expect)
- what "category" is it in
-how would one add or replace within their current regimens?

Basically trying to nail down what c20 is and the platform for its use!!
 
it seems to be some kind of GDA. Supposed to lean you out and harden you up. Works ok at the standard dose of 4 caps per day, however I would reccomend going 6-8 caps a day.
 
fightbackhxc said:
it seems to be some kind of GDA. Supposed to lean you out and harden you up. Works ok at the standard dose of 4 caps per day, however I would reccomend going 6-8 caps a day.
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There has been talk of it working like Clen with out the sides.. I guess my ? What goals Would this be geared at? I know that goals r more training/nutrition based, so what would it work best with to ne specific..
 
The second two ingredients are beta agonists, the popular mechanism for fat loss without muscle loss. Great recomp/hardening/leaning compounds. Some you might be more familiar with: Ephedrine, Clen, albuterol.

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That explains 2 ingredients of C20
 
So could it be stacked with something like alpha t2 or bad idea bc they're both beta2 antags?

Also- just read through the write up on NPlanet about alri zerostim and it seems very similar to c20, am I correct? Would one be able to replace Zerostim with c20
 
chedapalooza said:
So could it be stacked with something like alpha t2 or bad idea bc they're both beta2 antags?

Also- just read through the write up on NPlanet about alri zerostim and it seems very similar to c20, am I correct? Would one be able to replace Zerostim with c20
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No idea about stacking the beta2 antagonists Id assume there has to be a certain point where the return rate would be low. The two ALRI products and the C20 are both proprietary blend. And most studies cite actual numbers of dosing ... while these products have nothing. I wouldn't say they are replaceable... more like they have similar ingredients. No one really know the effective dosage, and also no one knows the dosage in those pill (well aside from the manufactor)
 
nattydisaster said:
I wouldnt stack with AT2 since they both contain beta agonists.

Stacking with something like Erase would be great for hardening and a lean physique
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Would taking something like benedryl enhance the effects of the Beta Agonist? (beta antagonist.. im not real good in this area) Similar how people use it whilst taking clen to help reset the beta receptors?
 
I dont think that method was ever actually proven, but that is only a concern with clen really since tolerance is built up in two weeks.

With the shorter half life its not needed. I expect these compounds to have a shorter half life than things like clen, which for everyones case is a good thing. Especially based on people saying they are seeing dramatic results in weeks 3, 4, etc, they sound like beta-agonists with good kinetics. No benefit from the benadryl
 
nattydisaster said:
I dont think that method was ever actually proven, but that is only a concern with clen really since tolerance is built up in two weeks.

With the shorter half life its not needed. I expect these compounds to have a shorter half life than things like clen, which for everyones case is a good thing. Especially based on people saying they are seeing dramatic results in weeks 3, 4, etc, they sound like beta-agonists with good kinetics. No benefit from the benadryl
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Yea. I just read about beta receptors I don't see the reason to use the benedryl other than to fall asleep..
In the AT2 use have you noticed users with significant recomping on weeks 3-4?
 
C20 I was talking about, i checked out some of the logs.

I also just read the product writeup and the full text of a few studies...the beta-agonists appear to be strong and also pretty unique.

There is also data on them on other mechanisms that common beta agonists effect, I wont get into that because it would confuse people, but it further suggests that the compounds do what they say
 
nattydisaster said:
C20 I was talking about, i checked out some of the logs.

I also just read the product writeup and the full text of a few studies...the beta-agonists appear to be strong and also pretty unique.

There is also data on them on other mechanisms that common beta agonists effect, I wont get into that because it would confuse people, but it further suggests that the compounds do what they say
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So given the product is a 30 day supply for around $35 would you buy it?
 
I would...isnt it on a pre-release deal? Its probably one of those things 2 months from now everyone will wish they bought the pre-release bottle for cheaper.

Same thing happened with AnaBeta...everyone was skeptic (which is fine) and now I read people every week saying they wished they had taken advantage of the launch sale.

I havent looked into the first ingredient but I imagine its in there for a reason, but the second two ingredients definitely have data that would have me purchasing it to try.

Seems like a new angle for a recomp product, not another GDA, but an anabolic fat burner so to speak

More hardcore than a GDA too
 
nattydisaster said:
I would...isnt it on a pre-release deal? Its probably one of those things 2 months from now everyone will wish they bought the pre-release bottle for cheaper.

Same thing happened with AnaBeta...everyone was skeptic (which is fine) and now I read people every week saying they wished they had taken advantage of the launch sale.

I havent looked into the first ingredient but I imagine its in there for a reason, but the second two ingredients definitely have data that would have me purchasing it to try.

Seems like a new angle for a recomp product, not another GDA, but an anabolic fat burner so to speak
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Yea. I was thinking that. Lots of ppl have had good results on it. A couple beta testers here have noticed great strength and recomping on it. Though I doubt the stuff because of the prop blend and some just having horrible results compared to the beta or even a different order.

Thanks for your opinion natty, btw I've tried all the PES products. ;)
Looking forward to seeing what you guys roll out with next!!
 
so c20 is similar to ursobolic in its claims or am i wrong, would you try c20 then natty and after how many wks if it works would you expect to star to see results?
 
miniarnold said:
so c20 is similar to ursobolic in its claims or am i wrong, would you try c20 then natty and after how many wks if it works would you expect to star to see results?
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It is not like ursobolic.

I dont know how many weeks because I have not tried it...there are dozens of logs on the internet you can view though
 
T-Bone said:
It's definitely not like Ursobolic. You don't have to take 18 pills a day for it to start to work!. Ursobolic, hahaha!
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I take it from your post that ursobolic didn't live up to the hype? I was wanting to try it but haven't heard much more about it since it's release.
 
flightposite said:
I take it from your post that ursobolic didn't live up to the hype? I was wanting to try it but haven't heard much more about it since it's release.
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It's different for everyone.. It's no magic pill. Nothing is. But with s high fat diet it really helps with vascularity, leanness n muscle fullness. N if u like to indulge eceryonce in a while I think the urso can help u get away w that. Were only human
 
I guess the big ? I have narrowed it down to is... What do you use this supp for? Like top 2 reasons/goals it should accomplish.. Is it a fat burner (stim or non?) anabolic? Wet/dry, very confused.. I guess no way to know until the ic release guys start posting..

(yes! I have read the product description) no it is not a magic pill, hence the questions / thinking out loud
 
I'm interested in it, to bad I haven't seen a USP rep come through my store in over a year, lol.
 
recomp is good, fat loss and muscle gain (fat loss most appealing) and still not even similar to ursoblic in its actions?
urso at 18pills a day is alot and over here in the uk it is dear as hell almost to expensive to run at the min dose
c20 may be worth a go but at a higher dose i would go for, is it on general release now?

Cheers
 
freezito said:
So u have never used c20 but your telling people to run it at a higher dose?
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a higher dose i would go for myself if i use it just to get a better effect if its dose dependant which i guess it may be, im telling nobody to take a higher dose if the min dose works everyones a winner
 
I see some reviews suggesting increase in strength and a guy said he gained 10lbs pure muscle in 30 days (I would question that, but that is his feedback). I don't see much on weight loss though. Any quotes or liks to logs on the fatt loss?
 
I ordered mine through the IC, should arrive Friday and I'll let you guys know if it worth it as soon as I can
 
miniarnold said:
a higher dose i would go for myself if i use it just to get a better effect if its dose dependant which i guess it may be, im telling nobody to take a higher dose if the min dose works everyones a winner
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If anything, I would keep the dose the same but use it every 2 hours.
 
k cheers, so is it officially released now and the same formula that the beta testers have used? would you be trying mr c ?
 
miniarnold said:
k cheers, so is it officially released now and the same formula that the beta testers have used? would you be trying mr c ?
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I may try it down the road, but the one main study I could find was strictly in vitro, and while the data is promising, there isn't much to go off of. I will wait to see the anecdotal results of educated consumers before making my decision, and I suggest you do the same.
 
nattydisaster said:
The second two ingredients are beta agonists, the popular mechanism for fat loss without muscle loss. Great recomp/hardening/leaning compounds. Some you might be more familiar with: Ephedrine, Clen, albuterol.

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That explains 2 ingredients of C20
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My question is can u stack this with AnaBeta ?
 
nattydisaster said:
The second two ingredients are beta agonists, the popular mechanism for fat loss without muscle loss. Great recomp/hardening/leaning compounds. Some you might be more familiar with: Ephedrine, Clen, albuterol.

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That explains 2 ingredients of C20
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Based on the reading I might give this a shot seeing as I was looking into a clen run soon, this may be a better option
 
nattydisaster said:
Use it as a recomp product. A product that allows you to lose fat and gain lean mass
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Yeah, this is what we all want.
I read you're first post and you said you think the ingredients are very solid and do what they claim. That seems solid in it's self coming from you.

dlucks said:
I ordered mine through the IC, should arrive Friday and I'll let you guys know if it worth it as soon as I can
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What was the IC deal for this?
 
AaronJP1 said:
Yeah, this is what we all want.
I read you're first post and you said you think the ingredients are very solid and do what they claim. That seems solid in it's self coming from you.

What was the IC deal for this?
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The inner circle deal was 34.99 but you could only buy one bottle I believe. I could be wrong but that's what I think was the deal.
 
mattrag said:
The inner circle deal was 34.99 but you could only buy one bottle I believe. I could be wrong but that's what I think was the deal.
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Aw see...
 
IS this proving to be a popular success in terms of effects, i asume if its supposd to be like clen then it isnt anything near as stong and effective
 
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