delsolrob is going hunting armed with Epistane and AP - pulse cycle w/ log

Condition, did you live in SD?
 
AlexParty said:
Is it true that Oatmeal gives you diarrhea?

How much did you bench Del?
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I like to do DB Press, last set of incline I did 110's and I got 120's on flat bench.
 
Well Camp Pendleton, but I spent most of my free time in SD. There were just strings of Latin and Brazilian parties, the club scene at the Gas Lamp and all that good stuff. My buddy's girl lived with 4 other girls so we were spoiled... School is just extremely competitive and i'm trying to finish up ASAP, so I moved back to central cal. :frustrate
 
That's pretty crazy, I can still only lift 90s on the dumbbells. I use to only lift dumbbells but now I like to do presses, I find it adds more mass.
 
I'm a little weird like that! I have a problem with my shoulder and bb press hurts but DB press doesn't.

about to hit the gym...I'll post todays log when I get home.
 
Todays Summary
Day 17/8th ON Day​
Supplements
8:00am
-AP
-1 DTH

Noon
-AP
-1 DTH
-20mg Epi

5:30pm
-1 DTH
-4 RPM
-AP
-20mg Epi

6:45
-workout

9:00
-AP

9:30
-1/2 dose Sustain Alpha
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Workout
today was Leg day

I don't think my strength has really increased much in my leg workouts, but I can tell that my endurance is much better!

15 min warmup on eliptical (hills)

Squats:
135x10 (warmup)
185x10
225x10
275x5
(went and did calves and leg curls)
more squats - just to destroy my legs:
225x6
195x9 (this was to failure)
165x10 (knee started to feel weird...stopped)

attempted to do leg extensions but knee was acting up.

6 sets of hanging leg raises (till my shins are parallel to the ceiling). first set was 10, each additional set was to failure (didn't make it to 10 again)

15 min cooldown on eliptical (hills)
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Additional Notes:

This week I'm traveling every day for work...this is causing some headaches with my diet! I cut about 30g of carbs out of my preworkout snack (1 slice of WW bread with PB and banana instead of 2). I don't think this really effected my workout so I think that is one area that I can start cutting back in.

I haven't been perfect with my diet (traveling this week has been rough)! I really feel like the leaning effects I was seeing are gone. I weighed in at 196 today (up 8 pounds).

I ordered some DCP that I'll be adding in for the last 4 weeks of my log.

my mood has been great! my libido has gotten pretty bad...glad I'm traveling right now and I don't have time for my lady friend! (pretty sure she'd be dissapointed)

I have yet to add in the DHEA for libido...might give that a try this weekend. I'm just not sure I'm comfortable running it for the rest of the cycle...that's a long time and I'm afraid the DHEA will cause more problems.anyone have thoughts on this?

also, thanks for the rec Strategic! I also ordered some relora and Ashwagandha. how should i dose this?
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delsolrob said:
...also, thanks for the rec Strategic! I also ordered some relora and Ashwagandha. how should i dose this?
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Normally, cortisol levels are highest in the morning (typically around 07:00am), drop during the day and rise again to another high during the evening. So, I would suggest two doses of Relora/Ashwagandha daily, one in the morning on an empty stomach and another dose just before bed.
 
Sucks about your libido man. Maybe stress has something to do with it. I was taking Relora during my cycle. I know if I was too stressed I wasnt going to perform so well. But keeping myself stress free kept me confident and happy in the sack! What does half dose of Sustain mean? How many pumps/squirts?
 
metroba said:
Sucks about your libido man. Maybe stress has something to do with it. I was taking Relora during my cycle. I know if I was too stressed I wasnt going to perform so well. But keeping myself stress free kept me confident and happy in the sack! What does half dose of Sustain mean? How many pumps/squirts?
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what's up Pimp'n?

1/2 dose of sustain was 2-3 pumps (not the squirt bottle thing).

I also ordered some PCS to try out as well 1200mg of 50% resveratrol might do a little more for me. Plus it has Icariin. I'm going to see how this compares to the Sustain Alpha.

so, I'm hoping the addition of relora and Ashwagandha, plus the PCS will kill this issue! I think work might have my stress level up a little right now.

Rob, how you like your new board? I was thinking it might be a little short for you right now.
 
strategicmove said:
Normally, cortisol levels are highest in the morning (typically around 07:00am), drop during the day and rise again to another high during the evening. So, I would suggest two doses of Relora/Ashwagandha daily, one in the morning on an empty stomach and another dose just before bed.
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Thanks Strategic! I'll just take this at the same time I take my cissus.
 
delsolrob said:
what's up Pimp'n?

1/2 dose of sustain was 2-3 pumps (not the squirt bottle thing).

I also ordered some PCS to try out as well 1200mg of 50% resveratrol might do a little more for me. Plus it has Icariin. I'm going to see how this compares to the Sustain Alpha.

so, I'm hoping the addition of relora and Ashwagandha, plus the PCS will kill this issue! I think work might have my stress level up a little right now.

Rob, how you like your new board? I was thinking it might be a little short for you right now.
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Looks like a good plan. Ive only used it (the board) once so far. But I liked it the day I used it. The waves were beating the crap outa me. Im going to try and go at least once a week but aim for two times/week. It does seem short but I like the board and I think I will get more comfortable with time.

edit: I also used my friends board that day. which was a 7' and I like it a lot. He used my board too. We actually talked about a trade haha. But well see how it goes in the next couple weeks.
 
What up dood! Sorry for dropping in late... but it's subbed now. Come up to North County and let's get a workout on with your San Diego brethren!

:dl:

Metroba- Glad to see you are out in the water! How are you digging surfing so far?
 
GMG760 said:
Metroba- Glad to see you are out in the water! How are you digging surfing so far?
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Only one (5 hour) session so far. But I loved it! Despite having sharks rub up against my legs all day. Tomorrow will be session number 2.
 
metroba said:
Only one (5 hour) session so far. But I loved it! Despite having sharks rub up against my legs all day. Tomorrow will be session number 2.
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Man, I have surfed around some sharks, especially in Fiji, but Florida is HEAVY when it comes to sharks. But then again, I have been in the water for most of my life, I was surfing before I could write cursive, and I have only had one not so friendly encounter with the creatures and I came out unscathed. I guess the odds are pretty slim, but it still gives me the creeps every time I see one. I actually don't eat shark and won't fish for it on the idea that if I don't eat them, maybe karma will be on my side... lol, well that's what I hope at least.
 
Condition1; said:
I don't know how you guys do it. The only thing that scares me more than sharks are imaginary sea creatures.
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Both groups scare me! :)
 
strategicmove said:
Both groups scare me! :)
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x2!! :shutters:

Get this yesterday, I went to Rainbow Springs yesterday and was on this very very small lounge raft. The spring is supposed to be clear most of time but because of the weather it was a lot darker and the grass at the bottom has gotten a lot taller so its even murkier. The raft ride is a 4 hour ride. You just get on your own raft and drift down for 4 hours. It was really nice but half way down a 4 or so foot gator just swam right past me! I almost sh1t myself. And after that 2 otters were playing near me and kept splashing me which was funny but when one of the otters popped his head up right near the side of my raft, I freaked out and yelled. haha good times. Sorry for hijack Rob.
 
metroba said:
x2!! :shutters:

Get this yesterday, I went to Rainbow Springs yesterday and was on this very very small lounge raft. The spring is supposed to be clear most of time but because of the weather it was a lot darker and the grass at the bottom has gotten a lot taller so its even murkier. The raft ride is a 4 hour ride. You just get on your own raft and drift down for 4 hours. It was really nice but half way down a 4 or so foot gator just swam right past me! I almost sh1t myself. And after that 2 otters were playing near me and kept splashing me which was funny but when one of the otters popped his head up right near the side of my raft, I freaked out and yelled. haha good times. Sorry for hijack Rob.
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Dude. Gators... that is some scary stuff. Definately glad we don't have those buggers out here. Probably rather deal with a shark attack than a gator attack...
 
Friday's Summary
Day 19/9th ON Day​
Supplements
8:00am
-AP
-1 DTH

Noon
-AP
-1 DTH
-20mg Epi

4:00pm
-4 RPM
-AP
-DCP
-20mg Epi

5:00
-workout

7:00
-AP

9:30
-PCS
-1 DTH​
-2 DCP
-relora and Ashwagandha
Workout
today was Chest/tri day

It's been super hot here all day and I didn't really have the energy I was hoping for in todays workout. again, I noticed that my over all strength isn't much greater, but my endurance has improved. (also, I didn't have a spotter today so I didn't have help with lift off, etc)

5 min warmup on eliptical (hills)

incline DB press:
70x10
90x10
100x8
110x6

flat DB press:
90x10
90x10
100x6

decline DB press:
90x6
90x6
90x8 (finally got a spotter that helped a little)

cable flies (played with the weights here - don't remember)

body weight dips:
4 sets of 12
1 set to failure (15 reps)

15 min cooldown on eliptical (hills)
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Additional Notes:

the NP gods blessed me with a shipment Friday(wasn't expecting it till monday)...so, I got my DCP, PCS, relora, and Ashwagandha today. I'm looking forward to seeing how the addition of these products plays in my cycle. Looking back on Friday I wish I would have waited to switch the sustain for the PCS until after I started taking the relora and Ashwagandha and waited to add in the DCP so that I could better guage the difference in how I felt without changing as many variables...I'll try switching back to the sustain in a week or so to see if I can tell the difference. (in the name of science)

Thanks guys for all the support!
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since a lot of things have changed I wanted to provide an update on the basic schedule for my supps:

OFF day:

morning
-2 super cissus RX
-1 AP
-2 DTH
-2 PCS
-1 Relora
-1 Ashwagandha
-2 DCP
-1 Sesamin oil capsule by scivation (after breakfast)

mid day
-2 DTH
-1 AP
-1 Sesamin
-2 DCP

Preworkout:
-4 RPM
-1 AP
-2 DCP

Postworkout:
-1 AP
-2 DTH
-Sesamin (after dinner)

Before Bed:
-2 Super Cissus RX
-2 PCS
-1 Relora
-1 Ashwagandha
-cycle support
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ON day:

morning
-2 super cissus RX
-1 AP
-1 DTH
-1 Relora
-1 Ashwagandha
-2 DCP
-1 Sesamin oil capsule by scivation (after breakfast)

mid day
-1 DTH
-1 AP
-1 Sesamin (after lunch)
-2 DCP
-20mg Epi

Preworkout:
-4 RPM
-1 AP
-2 DCP
-20mg Epi

Postworkout:
-1 AP
-2 DTH
-Sesamin (after dinner)

Before Bed:
-2 Super Cissus RX
-1 Relora
-1 Ashwagandha
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I remember reading a post by one of the AI guys stating that he was pulsing Epi and that he took PCS on his OFF days...should I do this as well or should I just run it ED?
 
GMG760 said:
Dude. Gators... that is some scary stuff. Definately glad we don't have those buggers out here. Probably rather deal with a shark attack than a gator attack...
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yeah, gators are scary! I was staying in some bungalos on the beach between manzanillo and Puerto Vallarta about a month ago and there were signs warning for crocadrillos (spelling?) and in the morning we saw marks in the sand where the crocs had gone by...made me a little cautious about wondering around there in the dark! it looked like there was a little pond by where I was staying but once you get a good look at it you realized it went back pretty far into the jungle...that's where all the tracks went to.

Crocs are also scary because they'll eat anything that moves, they'll even eat their young.

I was out "surfing" yesterday in Pacific Beach. I suck, but I had a lot of fun.
 
delsolrob said:
yeah, gators are scary! I was staying in some bungalos on the beach between manzanillo and Puerto Vallarta about a month ago and there were signs warning for crocadrillos (spelling?) and in the morning we saw marks in the sand where the crocs had gone by...made me a little cautious about wondering around there in the dark! it looked like there was a little pond by where I was staying but once you get a good look at it you realized it went back pretty far into the jungle...that's where all the tracks went to.

Crocs are also scary because they'll eat anything that moves, they'll even eat their young.

I was out "surfing" yesterday in Pacific Beach. I suck, but I had a lot of fun.
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Your layout is looking pretty disciplined man.

Having said that, yeah a crocodile is up there with their death roll and craziness.
 
delsolrob; said:
...the NP gods blessed me with a shipment Friday(wasn't expecting it till monday)...so, I got my DCP, PCS, relora, and Ashwagandha today. I'm looking forward to seeing how the addition of these products plays in my cycle....
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Please keep us updated on how the additions pan out...
 
feeling good today; I'm really looking forward to my workout tonight!

I spent a ton of time last night making meals for most of the week...I shouldn't have any issues with nutrition this week because I've got lunch and some snacks taken care of.

I think I've already noticed a difference in taking the PCS and the Relora + Ashwagandha. errections hadn't been too much of a problem but finishing has been difficult (even had to fake it once recently). Last night...no problems in any catagory!

I'm really energized to kick some butt, I'm almost half way through my log and I really haven't seen the results I was hoping for...time to kick some ass!
 
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Get some!!1
 
although, I might have to give metroba's avi some credit with helping me out here too!!!!

Is it bad that I keep logging into AM to watch it?
 
haha sounds like your libido is up and working! Im gonna put up a better one here in a minute. So bookmark that vid if you need to!! lol
 
Monday's Summary
Day 22/10th ON Day​
Supplements
8:00am
-2 DCP
-Relora and Ashwagandha
-AP
-1 DTH

1:00pm
-AP
-2 DCP
-1 DTH
-20mg Epi

4:30pm
-4 RPM
-AP
-2 DCP
-20mg Epi
-1 DTH

7:30
-workout

10:00
-AP

11:30
-2 PCS
-1 DTH
-relora and Ashwagandha
-Super Cissus RX​
Workout
today was shoulders, normally I do back on mondays but my workout partner skipped out and wants to do back tomorrow) I figured shoulders wouldn't interfier with back tomorrow.

10 min warmup on eliptical (hills)

DB shoulder press:
60x10
70x10
75x8
80x6
75x6

shrugs (DB):
90x10
115x10
115x10
115x10

superset lateral raises with shrugs

upright rows with EZ Curl bar
70x10
80x10
90x7
100x6
110x5

25 min cardio on eliptical (hills)
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Additional Notes:

damn I was tired today, had some unexpected guests come by sunday night and we were up way too late! I came home from work today and took about an hour nap before getting ready for the gym. thank god for RPM too!

Since I made the changes to my supps Friday night (added the relora and ashwagandha for cortisol, exchanged the sustain alpha for PCS, and added the DCP) I'm really feeling much better! My libido is noticably higher and I just feel better! I'm kinda back to being the horny bastard that I used to know:-)

I've also been weighing myself everyday for the last couple of days and it's consistant at 194 (6 pound change from the beginning) There was one day that I weighed in at 196...must have been holding some water that day. I'm also noticing that I'm looking a little leaner again!!! the change in diet for those days I was on business travel must have had me a little bloated.

Thanks guys for all the support!

Thanks Ike, it was your stoked log that prompted me to get the PCS and I think your suggestion on the relora and ashwagandha really helped out!
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...I've been trying to help a coworker get into shape, this has been my workout partner lately. But, he's been flaky and isn't a good spotter. I want to help him out but I'm afraid it's really getting in the way of my progress.
 
delsolrob said:
...I've been trying to help a coworker get into shape, this has been my workout partner lately. But, he's been flaky and isn't a good spotter. I want to help him out but I'm afraid it's really getting in the way of my progress.
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good update.

yeah man i feel ya on the training partner. I actually cant train with anyone anymore. Because they are flaky and they just distract me from my workout. I have ADD bad so its not the hard to get me thinking about something else.
 
delsolrob said:
...I've been trying to help a coworker get into shape, this has been my workout partner lately. But, he's been flaky and isn't a good spotter. I want to help him out but I'm afraid it's really getting in the way of my progress.
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I think any serious lifter has had this problem at one time or another. I have been going w/out a training partner for about the last year. I am about to the point where I need one again, and I think I found someone who is as motivated as I am. I actually prefer to have multiple training partners, best case scenario to have a different person for each body part... this would be nearly impossible to schedule, but I have also had training partners who have been great to work out with for one muscle group and were horrible with others.
 
Del man it sucks to not have a workout partner, but it's much worse if the guy is dragging you down. Cool of you to help, but if he's not ready to help himself there isn't much you can do bro.
 
Condition1 said:
Del man it sucks to not have a workout partner, but it's much worse if the guy is dragging you down. Cool of you to help, but if he's not ready to help himself there isn't much you can do bro.
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I know, I look back at the progress that I've made and I didn't really have many people there to support me and help me out...It forced me to learn a lot but I think the road would have been easier if I would have had someone to point me in the right direction. I'm all about helping others, but this is really getting frustrating!

what makes it hard is that this guy is starting out at ground zero! 25 years old and when we started working out together 2 months ago he couldn't do 1 pushup; 5'8", 150lbs, 25% BF. since then he's made huge gains! His BF% is down 3.5%, weight is up 5 pounds, strength is up a ton (all things considered).

What kills me is that he worked out for 8 months on his own before I started helping him...I have no idea what he was doing for those 8 months!
 
I'm here!

Great job del! I'll be following along closely now buddy! :D
 
Trauma, I think I'm really liking the addition of the DCP in my stack..good call buddy!

I enjoyed following your log...helped keep me on point with what I was doing!
 
I haven't really been logging my off days lately but I ended up hitting the gym tonight so I wanted to provide feedback


Tuesday's Summary
Day 23/OFF Day​
Supplements
8:00am
-2 DCP
-Relora and Ashwagandha
-AP
-2 DTH
-Super Cissus

1:00pm
-AP
-2 DCP
-2 DTH

6:00pm
-4 RPM
-AP
-2 DCP
-2 DTH

7:30
-workout

12:30
-2 PCS
-relora and Ashwagandha
-Super Cissus RX​

Workout
today was Back, normally I do back on mondays but my workout partner skipped out yesterday.

15 min warmup on eliptical (hills)

cable rows:
120x10
135x10
150x8
135x10

wide grip lat pull down:
160x10
210x10
250x8
270x6

low rows (machine - weight is one each side):
70x10
90x10
115x8
115x8

close grip lat pulldown:
135x10
165x10
180x7
165x8

wrapped up doing a mini arm routine...

25 min cardio on eliptical (hills)
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Additional Notes:

I can def tell this workout was on an OFF day...when I take the epi I feel like a beast going into the gym! (the RPM did help once it kicked in though)

mood was great today! still liking the feeling of my new supps:-)

I'm just hoping that the last month of my log really yields some amazing results...I'm def not where I think I should be considering I'm 3 weeks into it.
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Holy Sh1t! 270 for lat pulldowns! Sheesh you are a strong mofo! I would try and take your RPM closer to your workouts. An hour and half is too long in my opinion. Id say go 45 mins pre w/o.
 
Thanks Rob, I'll give that a try...although I know I'm going to be kicking ass tonight...with or without the RPM:-)

I'm also stoked, I met a new girl at the gym last night:-) she just moved down from Sacramento a week ago...she's HOT! we ended up hanging out until about midnight last night and we have plans for tomorrow night.

I'm extremely motivated to leanup! :whip: She wants me to take her surfing with me soon :blink:

This also means that I'm going to be playing with my supps to ensure that libido is ok!
 
metroba said:
Holy Sh1t! 270 for lat pulldowns! Sheesh you are a strong mofo! I would try and take your RPM closer to your workouts. An hour and half is too long in my opinion. Id say go 45 mins pre w/o.
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I like to think that I'm pretty strong for my weight, but 270 is kinda misleading! I do this on a machine and I don't have to balance it or anything. When I do lat pulldowns on the cable lat pull down machine I can only do about 210.

I just like using this machine because I feel it more in my lat when I do it.

I also want to get a weight belt so that I can do weighted pullups.
 
delsolrob said:
Thanks Rob, I'll give that a try...although I know I'm going to be kicking ass tonight...with or without the RPM:-)

I'm also stoked, I met a new girl at the gym last night:-) she just moved down from Sacramento a week ago...she's HOT! we ended up hanging out until about midnight last night and we have plans for tomorrow night.

I'm extremely motivated to leanup! :whip: She wants me to take her surfing with me soon :blink:

This also means that I'm going to be playing with my supps to ensure that libido is ok!
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How is your libido with the Epistane? I have heard that it can shut you down pretty good, but are the support supps working for you?

Btw, good call on taking her surfing. :thumbsup:
 
nooiiiiiiiice! Awesome you bagged a gym rat too! Def take her surfing. Sounds like you guys hit it off. Now post pics of her! :lol: jk
 
metroba said:
nooiiiiiiiice! Awesome you bagged a gym rat too! Def take her surfing. Sounds like you guys hit it off. Now post pics of her! :lol: jk
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Metroba wants her for his avi... :rofl:
 
You know what man... and I don't know why I didn't think of this before... if you are still having training partner issues, we should hit a workout together. You live like 15 minutes away, worth the drive in my opinion for a killer workout. I'd be down to drive to the split once or twice a week.
 
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Metroba wants her for his avi... :rofl:
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no, I'm gonna give him competition by making her my avi! Nah, I like having a real pic of me for my avi...I've worked hard for what I got!

I saw her for the first time monday night and I caught her checking me out. Then I saw her again last night and caught her again; I smiled at her and she turned bright red! I figured I didn't have to worry about getting shot down at that point...
 
delsolrob said:
no, I'm gonna give him competition by making her my avi! Nah, I like having a real pic of me for my avi...I've worked hard for what I got!

I saw her for the first time monday night and I caught her checking me out. Then I saw her again last night and caught her again; I smiled at her and she turned bright red! I figured I didn't have to worry about getting shot down at that point...
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That awesome man! Just be careful meeting chicks while "on". I had a nasty breakup at the end of my cycle. Wasnt serious anyway.:hammer:
 
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