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Defuse :(

Did you use it just mainly around cheat meals? This sounds interesting and might give it a run next summer when I cut...
 
The Whizard said:
Defuse seems out of stock everywhere. What are people's cheat meal stack with defuse MIA?
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PerforMax Labs' SlinMax
Or
Chaos And Pain's Predator

They're the top two NP's/GDA's since the original EBF Recompadrol was discontinued.
You could also look into the patented Phase 2/White Kidney Bean Extract as it's a supposed Amalyse Inhibitor, which reduces the amount of carbs and calories that your body absorbs from carbohydrates.
 
I have a sealed bottle of Defuse i will sell for $500 ;) sh!t is like gold. I use it on all huge cheat meals 4-8 caps depending on how big of a cheat meal. At 4 caps you have 60 cheat meals per bottle! Very economical.
 
There really is nothing comparable on the market... good luck finding it (tho it is "supposed" to be being restocked soon - could be years tho with how evo tends to run ha).

My suggestion is to stack a good GDA with your cheats to at least help. SNS Glycophase (most economical), C&P Predator, Recompadrol (if you have it still or can find it since its been dc'd for awhile now)
 
Damn! This really looks interresting! How many kcal can you consume with one cheat meal with this? Can I go around 5000? And nothing will count? What is the best alternative today?
 
There are several other you can look into.

RPG - Redcon1
PerforMax Labs' SlinMax
Chaos And Pain's Predator
Hi-Tech Glucozene-Rx
 
ZachH said:
I have a sealed bottle of Defuse i will sell for $500 ;) sh!t is like gold. I use it on all huge cheat meals 4-8 caps depending on how big of a cheat meal. At 4 caps you have 60 cheat meals per bottle! Very economical.
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National pancake day, send the bottle :food:
 
Firreozkan said:
Damn! This really looks interresting! How many kcal can you consume with one cheat meal with this? Can I go around 5000? And nothing will count? What is the best alternative today?
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Its not that "nothing will count" haha but it certainly will help. The MOA is that it prevents most of the cals from being absorbed/utilized for a period of time and allows your body to burn more of them off before finally absorbing what's left (in laymen's terms)

5000 isn't really that much either, especially just for one day ;)
 
cheftepesh1 said:
There are several other you can look into.

RPG - Redcon1
PerforMax Labs' SlinMax
Chaos And Pain's Predator
Hi-Tech Glucozene-Rx
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Hey is slin max any good I didn't realize what a gda was till this thread... sounds like of like a miracle pill....
 
I went ahead and purchased some slinmax just to see how it works on my two cheat meals during the week and if it work out ok will prolly make it a staple or even give the defuse a run... performax labs has slin max buy 1 get 1 rite now I seen....
 
Swindler said:
Hey is slin max any good I didn't realize what a gda was till this thread... sounds like of like a miracle pill....
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i have slinmax in my "tier 2" fo gda's... its decent, but not the best IMO.

My List
Tier 1 - OG Recompadrol (RIP), C&P Predator, Evomuse Slintensity
T2 - SNS Glycophase (cheap as dirt too), Perfomax Slinmax, USPLabs AP (RIP)

No-go's for me: Slinsane (think its dc'd anyways), glycolog, AI Glycobol XT
 
booneman77 said:
i have slinmax in my "tier 2" fo gda's... its decent, but not the best IMO.

My List
Tier 1 - OG Recompadrol (RIP), C&P Predator, Evomuse Slintensity
T2 - SNS Glycophase (cheap as dirt too), Perfomax Slinmax, USPLabs AP (RIP)

No-go's for me: Slinsane (think its dc'd anyways), glycolog, AI Glycobol XT
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I'm gonna give these a try sometime for sure.... tier 1 of couse
 
been using chaos and pain predator for like 4 bottles now lol i like it. Never used slinmax and just found it for bogo so i popped on in.
 
Swindler said:
Hey is slin max any good I didn't realize what a gda was till this thread... sounds like of like a miracle pill....
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SlinMax is definitely my Go-To GDA. I've tried LOADS of GDA's/NP's and I've tested nearly all of them against my blood glucose/insulin monitor and SlinMax has proven to be the most effective of them all so far. I've been running it 8 weeks on followed by 1-2 weeks off now for nearly two years now, it's kind of like a staple.
 
Slims said:
I'm thinking of picking up some BSL Glycolog, it's got quite an impressive profile. Why would you not go near it?
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because I used it and it did nothing for me, BSL is a shady as hell company, and its typically super overpriced ha.
 
booneman77 said:
i have slinmax in my "tier 2" fo gda's... its decent, but not the best IMO.

My List
Tier 1 - OG Recompadrol (RIP), C&P Predator, Evomuse Slintensity
T2 - SNS Glycophase (cheap as dirt too), Perfomax Slinmax, USPLabs AP (RIP)

No-go's for me: Slinsane (think its dc'd anyways), glycolog, AI Glycobol XT
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Rumor has it there's a relaunch in the works....
 
Colby.Strunk said:
Rumor has it there's a relaunch in the works....
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not exactly a relaunch, but kind of... Ched bought the formula and has made some tweaks and additions from what he's told me. They're having some problems getting the extracts and such manufactured tho so timeline has changed dramatically many times now.
 
Firreozkan said:
Damn! This really looks interresting! How many kcal can you consume with one cheat meal with this? Can I go around 5000? And nothing will count? What is the best alternative today?
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What do you think? lol If you read the right up the ingredients work through many different pathways to decrease the chance of lipogenesis not completely block it outright. There is also no way anyone can give an answer to this as there is no way to calculate these types of things. It is similar to asking if I go the library for four hours how much smarter will I be?????? Or, If I jump as hard as I can how high will I jump?

Questions asking for anything regarding exact numbers, other than doses, in the supplement/diet/perforrmane world are unanswerable.
 
booneman77 said:
because I used it and it did nothing for me, BSL is a shady as hell company, and its typically super overpriced ha.
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Oh I don't know about that I beta tested their pain relief product "Black Tar Herowin" it seemed properly dosed.................lol
 
Only used one bottle, loved it. Lasts a long time as you do not want to use regularly per Dsade. My normal "cheat meal" help is Glycophase, agmatine, and cissus.
 
Clear Edge is already paid for and in production, with the new Epitome version coming right after. Right now it's a tie between DCP (with the new Capsaicin hybrid molecule) and Defuse for production in early November.

I'm out myself, and dreading the Holidays coming up.
 
dsade said:
Clear Edge is already paid for and in production, with the new Epitome version coming right after. Right now it's a tie between DCP (with the new Capsaicin hybrid molecule) and Defuse for production in early November.

I'm out myself, and dreading the Holidays coming up.
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As much as I want Defuse I remember you saying it has a very low profit margin. Would rather see you have things up and running full swing again. One vote for DCP.
 
I've learned my lesson.. always stock up heavily with anything from evomuse!! it goes quick!!

Mike
 
dsade said:
Clear Edge is already paid for and in production, with the new Epitome version coming right after. Right now it's a tie between DCP (with the new Capsaicin hybrid molecule) and Defuse for production in early November.

I'm out myself, and dreading the Holidays coming up.
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Ill send you a sealed bottle of defuse if you send me 2 bottles when you get another batch worked up :)
 
picked up 4 bottles yesterday as soon as it went up ha. can. not. wait.
 
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