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I thought creatine was nattyJust remember (even if this your pic)... because I still do and so does @DemntedCowboy that you admitted to cycling "purified creatine" which ultimately made you an "enhanced athlete" even if for a brief period and you don't realize your mistake. But hey props to you for still rocking a 2004 Verizon dual stereo speaker LG phone (looks like LG VX8300), it was dope when I used to play MP3s like a little boom box.
Also, if the point of this crazy 4-year long thread of "silly you ignore" is that you're natty (sans the creatine cycles you admitted to in the past) that you have more "glory and honor" getting into your shape vs all these fake-natty's you post (who all are juiced to the gils), then you're right congrats.
Creatine is natty, relaxI thought creatine was natty
Creatine is natty, relax
Not when you concentrate and take it as a powder, you know "chemically purified" in a factory setting, shipped to you in a tub... It's not practical to eat enough red meat to get the levels of creatine, for example..I thought creatine was natty
then by this logic whey protein powder isn't Natty eitherNot when you concentrate and take it as a powder, you know "chemically purified" in a factory setting, shipped to you in a tub... It's not practical to eat enough red meat to get the levels of creatine, for example..
It's a point we hammered home about "natty vs enhanced" my argument being a chemist here, is that unless you stick to 100% food, air, water.. the minute you cross into using a purified, concentrated... Bottled chemicals, powders you are technically not natty.
Hardline, but otherwise it's actually impossible to draw a line of "chemically enhanced" vs "truly natural" athletes.. So good old iron hands, unwittingly made himself "enhanced" via creatine even if he never used exogenous hormones.
More than one path to the dark side, lol, All these folks taking loaded pre-work outs calling themselves natty, sheesh.
Best comedy thread on AM.
Bingo which is why the whole definition of use of it as a label is nonsense... To begin with, or super poorly defined.then by this logic whey protein powder isn't Natty either
I guess cheese wouldn't be Natty eitherBingo which is why the whole definition of use of it as a label is nonsense... To begin with, or super poorly defined.
Because even if you eliminate exogenous hormones, there's lots of other ways to be "enhanced". Lance Armstrong type stuff.
the definition of food is too loose though. things like cheese are unnaturally processed. all sweeteners are processed. lots of crazy ingredients in most foods now. gums, wax, msg... I think he is confused with PaleoI think getting into the technicalities of the semantics is really an attempt to redraw the line.
While technically true, anything besides food, air and water could be deemed unnatural, there is a common understanding among most that the terms "natty or not" are shorthand for whether or not someone has used steroids. Some, maybe most, expand that to also mean chemicals designed to produce superphysiological responses (RC's, diuretics, etc). Others expand it to include practices such as blood doping.
In the end though, most people are content with the idea that ingesting whey protein, creatine, herb extracts, etc, does not cross the line of what they think of as natty.
The important argument isn't really about what each of us defines as natty (that's a personal choice) but more about the repercussions of those who are the furthest away from natty, but claim to be natty, and the impact that they have on others who might either try to emulate them, buy the products that they sell, or just give up early because they aren't achieving the same results (because they aren't being told the whole story).
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this guy is more Natty than everyone in this thread combined
what? Im just posting nattyYour talking to a bot
idk man I don't think it's really -that- rare to have some great genetics. look at most black people lolThe only guy on this thread who might be natural is the fat guy lifting the car....... To the OP, Im sorry brother, but huge dudes who say they are natural are lieing. Otherwise they would have the single most rare genetics known to man.
My brother calls them Athletic Americansidk man I don't think it's really -that- rare to have some great genetics. look at most black people lol
The pics in this thread are populated by a bot - not a human being. Your talking to a bot....what? Im just posting natty
bro do you even know how a forum works?The pics in this thread are populated by a bot - not a human being. Your talking to a bot....
Your talking to a bot
I don't see anyone
Now that's the best humor yet, you're the "authoritarian king of the real natties". Only ordained by royalty, lol. Forget science or defining things chemically or clearly, we got FAITH!Only I can give the true definition of natty
testosterone is naturalOnly I can give the true definition of natty
My natty is the nattiest!
Jason is definitely not natty
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