DC's Winter Bulk 2019

[DemntedCowboy]

You shouldn’t pin more than half a cc/ml at a time (that’s 50iu btw) when going subq. For daily shots adding up to 200mg test and 500mg mast you’re probably going to need to go IM and just rotate both delts and quads with something like a 5/8” 27-28g needle.

The volume of oil of the masteron is why this is exceeding 50 units per day.

I already do IM. I use 1" 23g currently. But was just thinking if I do daily it would be easier, and better bloods. Could I just use a shorter needle on my regular syringe and do sub-q

 

[DemntedCowboy]

You shouldn’t pin more than half a cc/ml at a time (that’s 50iu btw) when going subq. For daily shots adding up to 200mg test and 500mg mast you’re probably going to need to go IM and just rotate both delts and quads with something like a 5/8” 27-28g needle.

The volume of oil of the masteron is why this is exceeding 50 units per day.

I was also thinking it be like 3 IU syringes so figured I could just hit 3 different locations in a day. Just a thought

 

[Hyde]

I already do IM. I use 1" 23g currently. But was just thinking if I do daily it would be easier, and better bloods. Could I just use a shorter needle on my regular syringe and do sub-q

Yeah you can, although don’t use 23 for sub-q shots. I would be looking at backloading 28g insulin syringes and putting them in a ziplock bag in a hot glass of water to warm them right before administration.

I use 25g in my glutes and have no issues pushing the oil. Smallest gauge needle you can use to reduce scar tissue, right?

I was also thinking it be like 3 IU syringes so figured I could just hit 3 different locations in a day. Just a thought

If you really wanted to do 3 shots daily, yeah that certainly could work. But it sure doesn’t sound easier to me.

 

[Hyde]

Also, thank you for your service!

 

[MrKleen73]

https://westendmedicalsupplies.com/products/28-gauge-1cc-diabetic-syringe-with-needle?gclid=CjwKCAiAqqTuBRBAEiwA7B66hROJDMjptffNFeNPQesTfz_Kbd3F9AMBOIHzc3Qzxnx045Ce3-DJ6hoCNrMQAvD_BwE You can get a 1ml insulin syringe. Just poke in 2 spots if you don't want to get a lump from the oil under the skin.

 

[MrKleen73]

Also, thank you for your service!

This.

 

[DemntedCowboy]

https://westendmedicalsupplies.com/products/28-gauge-1cc-diabetic-syringe-with-needle?gclid=CjwKCAiAqqTuBRBAEiwA7B66hROJDMjptffNFeNPQesTfz_Kbd3F9AMBOIHzc3Qzxnx045Ce3-DJ6hoCNrMQAvD_BwE You can get a 1ml insulin syringe. Just poke in 2 spots if you don't want to get a lump from the oil under the skin.

Also, thank you for your service!

Thanks for your responses. Since I did my shot today. I will look for 1ml insulin syringes and try the new daily injections starting next week.

 

[Hyde]

Thanks for your responses. Since I did my shot today. I will look for 1ml insulin syringes and try the new daily injections starting next week.

If the Masteron is 100mg/ml and the test is 200mg/ml, and you are taking 500/200mg per wk (respectively), you would just need to draw ~28iu of test up then fill the rest of the 1ml/1cc/100iu syringe up (since you need 71.x mg of mast per day). Then swap your draw needle to a 28g short needle and administer subq in a couple different spots. You could use a 3ml syringe but the measurements will be less accurate since you’re only using 1cc total.

The main problem with fixed needle insulin syringes would be having to backload them to prevent wrecking the needle.

 

[DemntedCowboy]

If the Masteron is 100mg/ml and the test is 200mg/ml, and you are taking 500/200mg per wk (respectively), you would just need to draw ~28iu of test up then fill the rest of the 1ml/1cc/100iu syringe up (since you need 71.x mg of mast per day). Then swap your draw needle to a 28g short needle and administer subq in a couple different spots. You could use a 3ml syringe but the measurements will be less accurate since you’re only using 1cc total.

The main problem with fixed needle insulin syringes would be having to backload them to prevent wrecking the needle.

This isnt my normal Test though. This is my emergency. **** the pharmacy hasnt shipped yet stash

 

[Hyde]

This isnt my normal Test though. This is my emergency. **** the pharmacy hasnt shipped yet stashView attachment 188264

Oh even better, those are more concentrated! You could probably fit that in 50iu/0.5ml syringes daily.

 

[MrKleen73]

Oh even better, those are more concentrated! You could probably fit that in 50iu/0.5ml syringes daily.

I was just about to say the same thing. Isnt it like 35IU for mast and 9IU for the test or am I doing my math wrong... decent chance...

 

[DemntedCowboy]

I was just about to say the same thing. Isnt it like 35IU for mast and 9IU for the test or am I doing my math wrong... decent chance...

For Daily?

 

[MrKleen73]

For Daily?

Yeah at those strengths i think so but I could be off that is why I asked @Hyde if I was right. I didn't graduate High School and make up my own formulas to get numbers. I am right a lot of the time but better to make sure. I just did 66IU/7 days and basically the same premise for the mast. However they seem a lot different then what he mentioned so... second guessing myself. .

 

[DemntedCowboy]

Yeah at those strengths i think so but I could be off that is why I asked @Hyde if I was right. I didn't graduate High School and make up my own formulas to get numbers. I am right a lot of the time but better to make sure. I just did 66IU/7 days and basically the same premise for the mast. However they seem a lot different then what he mentioned so... second guessing myself. .

Thanks brother thats why I did my math and the numbers where a little different. Thats why I asked in the first place. Always better to be right on

 

[Hyde]

I was just about to say the same thing. Isnt it like 35IU for mast and 9IU for the test or am I doing my math wrong... decent chance...

If Mast is concentrated at 250mg/ml and DC is needing 500mg/wk, he needs 2ml/wk total (200iu). 200/7 days=28.6iu/day.

Test at 300mg/ml and needing 200mg/wk, we need 0.66ml or 66iu total per week. 66/7=9.4iu per day.

So the total volume per day would be 38iu, test and mast combined in one shot.

 

[Hyde]

I was just about to say the same thing. Isnt it like 35IU for mast and 9IU for the test or am I doing my math wrong... decent chance...

If Mast is concentrated at 250mg/ml and DC is needing 500mg/wk, he needs 2ml/wk total (200iu). 200/7 days=28.6iu/day.

Test at 300mg/ml and needing 200mg/wk, we need 0.66ml or 66iu total per week. 66/7=9.4iu per day.

So the total volume per day would be 38iu, test and mast combined in one shot.

 

[DemntedCowboy]

Yeah at those strengths i think so but I could be off that is why I asked @Hyde if I was right. I didn't graduate High School and make up my own formulas to get numbers. I am right a lot of the time but better to make sure. I just did 66IU/7 days and basically the same premise for the mast. However they seem a lot different then what he mentioned so... second guessing myself. .

If Mast is concentrated at 250mg/ml and DC is needing 500mg/wk, he needs 2ml/wk total (200iu). 200/7 days=28.6iu/day.

Test at 300mg/ml and needing 200mg/wk, we need 0.66ml or 66iu total per week. 66/7=9.4iu per day.

So the total volume per day would be 38iu, test and mast combined in one shot.

I appreciate all the help brothers. Even though I did my regular shot today. Cause I still wasnt sure. Would there be any issues with starting this tomorrow?

 

[DemntedCowboy]

3-5" They said. I hate Winter, I hate Weathermen, and I hate Michigan

 

[MrKleen73]

If Mast is concentrated at 250mg/ml and DC is needing 500mg/wk, he needs 2ml/wk total (200iu). 200/7 days=28.6iu/day.

Test at 300mg/ml and needing 200mg/wk, we need 0.66ml or 66iu total per week. 66/7=9.4iu per day.

So the total volume per day would be 38iu, test and mast combined in one shot.

Yeah I did my number off of 250, was overthinking it. LOL I knew something didn't look right there on the mast.

Math is a very weak area for me quit high school in beginning of 10th grade after wasting the years from 7th and 8th where they ended up passing me just to get me out of the school... 26 suspensions and then expelled over the 2 years in 7th and one in 8th... Ended up in psych hospital where i earned my ticket into 9th through self paced work but was too old to deal with everyone in 9th and disrespectful teachers in 10th. The counselor and principal both recommended I quit... Can you imagine that... Found out later that school was notorious for that and had a ridiculous drop out rate. Challenging kids not welcome... Totally different person now.

 

[Hyde]

Lol meme game strong today!

When you said it was supposed to be 3-5”, all I could think of is usually somebody is promising 8” and ends up giving 3-5, not the other way around

Yeah I wouldn’t sweat just starting the new dosing protocol whenever you like. Both compounds last weeks in your system so moving things a few days is irrelevant in the grand scheme.

Yeah I did my number off of 250, was overthinking it. LOL I knew something didn't look right there on the mast.

Math is a very weak area for me quit high school in beginning of 10th grade after wasting the years from 7th and 8th where they ended up passing me just to get me out of the school... 26 suspensions and then expelled over the 2 years in 7th and one in 8th... Ended up in psych hospital where i earned my ticket into 9th through self paced work but was too old to deal with everyone in 9th and disrespectful teachers in 10th. The counselor and principal both recommended I quit... Can you imagine that... Found out later that school was notorious for that and had a ridiculous drop out rate. Challenging kids not welcome... Totally different person now.

Hey but look where you’re now! Grown ass job, a family to be proud of, and you’re still walking on both feet and above ground all these years later. Just because they couldn’t see what you would become doesn’t mean they can stop it.

 

[DemntedCowboy]

All Sets 45" Rest:

Squats(Forgot my Belt so Kept it Light): 200x12,12,12

Hack Squat: 200x10,10

Leg Extension: 130x10,10

Stiff Leg Deadlift: 200x8,8,8

Leg Curls: 145x10,10

Seated Calf Extension: 200x50,50

Cool-Down(Treadmill): Elevation 2.5, Speed 3.5, Time 10 mins

 

[Hyde]

The preWO meme had me chuckling, but the FlexTape one my belly was shaking

 

[BEAST73]

Looking good in here. Hard work!

 

[Carnivorecon]

Ay err y'all got some a dat dere tape?

 

[DemntedCowboy]

Unscheduled night off. Guess, I tweeked my back lastnight. Woke up in some pain that only got worse as the day went on at work. So gonna let it rest.

 

[manifesto]

DC, not to derail but quick question for you or anyone else in here...

I donated this morning...is it ok if I lift this evening and do some cardio?

They told me to wait 24 hrs to exercise, but I dont want to...

 

[DemntedCowboy]

DC, not to derail but quick question for you or anyone else in here...

I donated this morning...is it ok if I lift this evening and do some cardio?

They told me to wait 24 hrs to exercise, but I dont want to...

I've done it before. But I went super light so as not to get lightheaded and pass out

 

[manifesto]

The weird thing is, I havent been light headed at all...not even right after donating...

 

[Ironpirate]

iu is international unit which is a completely different measurement system. This is a 100 unit syringe. 1 unit equals 10 cubic mm

 

[DemntedCowboy]

iu is international unit which is a completely different measurement system. This is a 100 unit syringe.

We got it figured out now. Thanks. It has been an easy 2 days. Yesterday was quads. Today was Delts

 

[manifesto]

I dont think the daily injection thing is feasible long term....I mean is the blood stability that much of an issue really?

Over thinking it I feel

 

[DemntedCowboy]

I dont think the daily injection thing is feasible long term....I mean is the blood stability that much of an issue really?

Over thinking it I feel

It hasnt been bad so far, and a whole lot less pain. And if it keeps bloods more stable why not

 

[DemntedCowboy]

So wife hit me with the massage gun yesterday. I used a iceyhot patch todayz and wife hit me with massage gun again today. Feel great. Time to hit the gym tomorrow

 

[DemntedCowboy]

All Sets 45" Rest:

Seated Cable Row: 120x12,12,12

Bent Over Row: 110x20,20

Lat Pulldown(Close Grip): 100x20,20

DB Military Press: 35x12,12,12

BB Upright Row: 70x15,15

DB Lateral Raise: 17.5x15,15

Cool-Down(Treadmill): Elevation 2.5, Speed 3.5, Time 10 mins

Just so everyone knows and if they arent sure about my new program. I am running P.H.A.T.

 

[hairygrandpa]

Personally, I would only use short esters sub-q. The long esters will leave welts (boils) and after awhile you will have them all around your navel.
I'm maybe the only one here using 30g slin pins with test-e to my delts, LOL. I back load and then heat the syringe before pinning. Yes, it takes time -and yes, you will get biceps on your thumb after awhile.

 

[DemntedCowboy]

Personally, I would only use short esters sub-q. The long esters will leave welts (boils) and after awhile you will have them all around your navel.
I'm maybe the only one here using 30g slin pins with test-e to my delts, LOL. I back load and then heat the syringe before pinning. Yes, it takes time -and yes, you will get biceps on your thumb after awhile.

I actually have been doing this for the past few days now. Did Quads, Delts, and Glutes, and can't even tell where I pinned afterwards. It is working quite well. Right now. But I will keep an eye out for welts.

 

[hairygrandpa]

I actually have been doing this for the past few days now. Did Quads, Delts, and Glutes, and can't even tell where I pinned afterwards. It is working quite well. Right now. But I will keep an eye out for welts.

Actually, if you pin delts and quads, its probably not sub-q but IM since you lost fat. No problems with welts this way.
Main problem with slin pins is the limited volume per injection.
I do my TRT dose once a week and have no problems. I guess natural test levels also fluctuate, right?

 

[DemntedCowboy]

Actually, if you pin delts and quads, its probably not sub-q but IM since you lost fat. No problems with welts this way.
Main problem with slin pins is the limited volume per injection.
I do my TRT dose once a week and have no problems. I guess natural test levels also fluctuate, right?

Last bloods when I switched Clinics I went from 1230 to 783. But I will find out when I go back and do bloods again. Just got back with the original clinic so should be doing bloods again in a few months.

 

[DemntedCowboy]

All Sets 45" Rest:

DB Flat Press: 60x3,3,3,3,3,3

Incline DB Press: 60x12,12,12

Chest Press(Machine): 130x15,15,15

Incline Cable Fly: 20x15,15

Preacher Curl: 65x12,12,12

Tricep Push Downs: 50x15,15

Tricep Kickbacks: 20x20,20

Spider Curl: 40x15,15

Overhead Extension: 40x12,12,12

Concentration Curls: 25x12,12,12

Cool-Down(Treadmill): Elevation 2.5, Speed 3.5, Time 10 mins

 

[BEAST73]

Looking Good Bro!!

 

[DemntedCowboy]

Looking Good Bro!!

Thanks Brother

 

[DemntedCowboy]

@Hyde I found this one just for you

 

[Hyde]

That’s gold

 

[MrKleen73]

You find the funniest pics...

 

[DemntedCowboy]

All Sets 45" Rest:

Bent Over Row: 170x5,5,5

PullUps: BWx10,10

DB Flat Bench: 60x10,10,10

Dips: BWx12,12

DB Military Press: 40x10,10,10

EZ Bar Curls: 60x10,10,10

Incline EZ Bar SkullCrushers: 60x10,10,10

Cool-Down(Treadmill): Elevation 2.5, Speed 3.5, Time 10 mins

 

[DemntedCowboy]

He gonna have to change his name now. He's seen action

 

[DemntedCowboy]

All Sets 45" Rest:

Squats: 210x12,12,12

Hack Squat: 180x10,10

Leg Extension: 145x10,10

Calf Extension: 190x50,50

Seated Leg Curl: 160x10,10

Leg Press: 220x50,30+10+10

Cool-Down(Treadmill): Elevation 2.5, Speed 3.5, Time 10 mins

 

[DemntedCowboy]

All Sets 45" Rest:

Seated Row(Cable): 120x12,12,12

Bent Over Row: 110x20,20

Lat Pulldown(Close Grip): 100x20,20

DB Military Press: 40x12,12,12

Upright Row(Barbell): 80x15,15

Lateral Raise: 20x15,15

Cool-Down(Treadmill): Elevation 2.5, Speed 3.5, Time 10 mins

 

[DemntedCowboy]

Enjoy its my night off. Lol

 

[Rocket3015]

Funny !!